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Cerebral Wolf Jr
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Posted - 2012.10.02 22:38:00 -
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One of the main issues we have with people farming both SP and WP at the moment is there's nothing stopping them from doing it as it's technically a part of actual game mechanics, I.E repairing a LAV while crashing over and over.
Now, the most simple way i can see to fix this without adding any hard or soft caps and limiting people from playing the way they want to play is to simply make it so that repairs cost a considerable chunk of ISK in comparison to what it is they are repairing.
I.E Make a HAV cost quite a lot to repair, it is after all an expensive piece of kit to own and use, A LAV is obviously cheaper so it should be cheaper to repair the LAV than the HAV and put drop ships somewhere in the middle. This will encourage self healing builds for vehicles on one hand, but it will also encourage people to actually make sure they repairing something worth it at the same time.
It will cost the SP/WP farmers ISK to cheat then, they can only do it for so long till they have to play the game normally. I know it's not a perfect solution but that's something we could discuss and thrash out here?
As for Militia vehicles, more specifically the free LAV, make it unrepairable or make it so that it's not free and unlimited.
For drop suits, they should cost very little ISK as there's not really a way to exploit that a the moment.
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
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Posted - 2012.10.02 23:13:00 -
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Cortez The Killer wrote: The only trouble I see with that is that there are players just aching to drop a few spare bil ISK over to the Dust corps and individuals. If I were a tanker and had not only a bil in my wallet but residual income from Eve, why would I care about what the repair costs?
There was a suggestion a while back about about only awarding WP/SP for repping hostile damage. I wonder how complicated that would be to implement.
I'm not sure but it would fix it, i like the above suggestion of making the person being repaired paying for it though rather than the Logi.
Possibly even give more WP as a counter to it assuming it works and stops the farming? |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
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Posted - 2012.10.02 23:45:00 -
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Cortez The Killer wrote:Expendable repair tools has a nice ring to it.
It really does, friendly fire won't work either as it will always be off in hisec and they will always be able to farm. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
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Posted - 2012.10.02 23:45:00 -
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Jaysin 011584 wrote:How about all farmers stop being douches and play the game, earn your SP/WP like a merc would and kill and be a merc for it not a punk little douche because to me that is worse than dumb players. Players off not helping the team, a sense of unity is what is needed, that will get you plenty of SP/WP. Also you earned it like a grown up not a child taking what they want EARN IT if you want it EARN IT don't steal or farm EARN IT.
It's a console game, you'll always get boosters, the trick is how you deal with it. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
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Posted - 2012.10.03 00:39:00 -
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You get less WP for using better gear? :CCP: |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
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Posted - 2012.10.03 21:57:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:I think combining all this stuff together is going to be the way to go. But isn't the real issue WP farming, not SP farming? This game is a lot like EVE in the sense that there is a certain skill level that is required to put you on even footing with almost anyone and after that the bonuses are marginal at best. With proper gameplay some with 10 mil sp goes down just as easy as someone with 1 mil. But the endless OS/PS spamming is ruining the game. So why not just eliminate WAR points awarded for damage done by the environment or done within a team's base? Would that solve the whole thing?
its an interesting point, but how could to fix WP farming without screwing the logistic players over? |
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