Nerf: The Game.

Ya I got alot of words I want to say about how lovely of a position CCP just put drop ships in.


Basically there is a ceiling height that forces you in forge range. They destroyed resist so they do not help you at all. then they boost AV so it just rips you a new one if you get hit by it. You get no points besides for kills that your gunners get if you ever get a chance to gun.

So CCP what the hell where you thinking. hell I learned how to fly last build with how weak they where and had the ability to hit the ceiling on forge and AV when people started after me now there is no safe place besides behind a building in your teams safe zone.

it was epic having drop ship battles flying high low all over the place now it is like hey guys you are ****** because noobs cant handle epic pilots anymore.

Ya I have been so far happy supportive. And well ya now I just need to vent because dropships was my love it was very fun to fly

Sorry but had to vent guys I am pretty unhappy. ya one of those things that just hit the nerve.

So drop suit pilots vent here with me. It is needed It seems like it is not worth putting a single point into them because it will be a very fast SP sink.

It honestly feels that way sometimes. Sad to see that aircraft are getting nerfed again so soon after those new flight mechanics made them awesome. What we really need is a specialized anti-air weapon so that people can use that instead of swarm launchers and forge guns, and we can get a reasonable flight ceiling back.

WHAT???

A Flight ceiling so low you can't avoid forge guns?

That was the only way to avoid being shot out of the sky in five seconds.

And flight means altitude. I'm supposed to spec into hover cars now?

This post makes me very nervous because I've heard that you're a really good pilot. I like to fly and consider myself average, but if you're having troubles I'm gonna be completely screwed.

they need to nerf swarm launchers all the way..i hate dodging swarmers 3 times and have it chase me and hit it.basically it is impossible to avoid swarmers

chaff pods, could do wonders for aircraft. i mean at least a limited supply would be cool

Ya Tbone it does not look good This ceiling really made drop ship flying impossible. AV had easy time dealing with 95% of pilots at the end of last build. Forges where the only thing that could get me and they where the bane of my existence but I could ceiling out of there range. Now dropships are forced within forge range at all times. and are limited to full speed flying as there only way to escape AV which is not very effective against good forgers.

Really disappointed. Drop ships where rare end of last build me and like 3 others dare to fly them besides people that MCC repped and those that used them for towers but even that happened only once in a great while. so no idea why this ceiling limit was placed to force drop ships under tower height at all times.

I need to test it in a towerless map yet but it seems pretty hopeless to me.


AND to top it all of they give the Aerial Vehicles Active fuel injector 50 CPU and 625 PG req. There is no fricken dropship that has that fitting ability.

CCP you did alot of great things in this build but You just really showed some major hate on dropships hardcore here.

I really hope this isn't some kind of attempt at "fixing" the "towership exploit". I never understood the whining about that in the first place, since you can just shoot the bloody things right off, and making dropships useless to counter a minor issue is in no way a solution. I hope that's not what just happened here.

I guess I'll just work on the base skills that overlap with dropships and then the AR in hopes that my beloved ships are one day restored.

I flew as much as I could at the end of Precursor despite the handicap and I was going to go right for them this build too, but they sound like an empty SP sinkhole now.

*sigh*

CCP you told me personally that you were committed to making piloting a viable career path.

Why did you do this?

I guess I'll just work on the base skills that overlap with dropships and then the AR in hopes that my beloved ships are one day restored.

I flew as much as I could at the end of Precursor despite the handicap and I was going to go right for them this build too, but they sound like an empty SP sinkhole now.

*sigh*

CCP you told me personally that you were committed to making piloting a viable career path.

Why did you do this?

CMON GUYS.. the flight mechanics were changed ALOT. not a little.. ALOT.. WHY DO YOU LIE TO OUR FACES.. AGAIN? the flight mechanics WERE very realistic.. now?.. now you can F'ing put ur drop ship sideways and it goes UP... UP.. what? thats right UP.. not sideways.. .UP
if you tip the ship forward. it stops in place.. nah man frak gravity.. it hovers in place.. even though all the jets are facing in one direction... it use to fly like a helicopter.. BRING BACK THE OLD FLIGHT MECHANICS..

CMON GUYS.. the flight mechanics were changed ALOT. not a little.. ALOT.. WHY DO YOU LIE TO OUR FACES.. AGAIN? the flight mechanics WERE very realistic.. now?.. now you can F'ing put ur drop ship sideways and it goes UP... UP.. what? thats right UP.. not sideways.. .UP
if you tip the ship forward. it stops in place.. nah man frak gravity.. it hovers in place.. even though all the jets are facing in one direction... it use to fly like a helicopter.. BRING BACK THE OLD FLIGHT MECHANICS..

NOOOOOOOO!!!!

First the ceiling, then the continued lack of WP's, and now you have turned them back into bumper cars!?!?

You are dead to me.

I was just getting into Dropships the past few days (went through 10 or 20 of them last night :D), I was even getting pretty good at barrel rolls, but this new build really makes them... not as good. Honestly, a flight ceiling is not the right way to go, I don't care what "issue" they're trying to fix. What are they going to do when Fighters come out?

Anyway, I spent 300k ISK on a couple Vipers today, I don't think I'll be putting any more ISK in them. Tanks, Dropships, what's next?

Nothing. Nothing is next. We're out of vehicles. Task were nerfed, dropships were nerfed LAV's and LLV's are currently a joke. They couldn't assault a fly. They're more like jeeps and we should have a different kind of vehicle as an LAV. Back to the point there's no vehicles left.

I thought I saw the option to call in a heavy air vehicle?

But there not in the game yet as far as I know. They're probably going to be released in a later patch.

It honestly feels that way sometimes. Sad to see that aircraft are getting nerfed again so soon after those new flight mechanics made them awesome. What we really need is a specialized anti-air weapon so that people can use that instead of swarm launchers and forge guns, and we can get a reasonable flight ceiling back.

I support this idea. I don't fly ships myself but the right answer to balance questions is to make an effective counter not to "level" everything.

Good AV should rip HAV (and even more so LAV) apart
Good AA should do the same to dropships.
A good AR or sniper rifle should do the same to infantry.

What should NOT happen is a gun or guns being "balanced" so that they can do all of the above.
If you don't have anyone on your team running with AR infantry should cause you fits, same for no AA against ships or AV against HAV.

Each battlefield role should excel at an aspect and fall short generally. That's compelling gameplay and promotes teamwork, the "make everything equal" method is a way to create a dull and repetitive experience that won't hold up to the test of time.

D riving
U n-nerfed
S uper
T anks

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