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Pete B
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Posted - 2012.09.30 19:25:00 -
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Are we gonna have space battles?
Just asking, cause its not in the codex update, so i just thought you would implement it at a later date, but then thinking that its nearly at the end of the year, and Dust 514 is suppose to be ready by this year, and it would be alot of work to put it in, maybe you wouldn't
Also, singleplayer game modes, are there going to be any, or is it going to be pure multiplayer. Just that it would be nice to have singleplayer.
Just wondering if you were gonna add space battles. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.09.30 19:26:00 -
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Let me tell you about a little game called EVE Online... |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.30 19:30:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Let me tell you about a little game called EVE Online... Pretty sure he means fighting on those ships. Unless he's just brain dead. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.30 19:33:00 -
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Pete B wrote:Are we gonna have space battles?
Just asking, cause its not in the codex update, so i just thought you would implement it at a later date, but then thinking that its nearly at the end of the year, and Dust 514 is suppose to be ready by this year, and it would be alot of work to put it in, maybe you wouldn't
Also, singleplayer game modes, are there going to be any, or is it going to be pure multiplayer. Just that it would be nice to have singleplayer.
Just wondering if you were gonna add space battles.
a lot of people have talked about space battles, but i don't think their going to been in DUST 514 in the short term. |
Noob Noobuler
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.30 19:35:00 -
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4447 wrote:Pete B wrote:Are we gonna have space battles?
Just asking, cause its not in the codex update, so i just thought you would implement it at a later date, but then thinking that its nearly at the end of the year, and Dust 514 is suppose to be ready by this year, and it would be alot of work to put it in, maybe you wouldn't
Also, singleplayer game modes, are there going to be any, or is it going to be pure multiplayer. Just that it would be nice to have singleplayer.
Just wondering if you were gonna add space battles. a lot of people have talked about space battles, but i don't think their going to been in DUST 514 in the short term. shop battles :D. DONT JUMP TO HIGH OR YOU MAY GO INTO SPACE |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.09.30 19:44:00 -
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Pete B wrote:Are we gonna have space battles?
Just asking, cause its not in the codex update, so i just thought you would implement it at a later date, but then thinking that its nearly at the end of the year, and Dust 514 is suppose to be ready by this year, and it would be alot of work to put it in, maybe you wouldn't
Also, singleplayer game modes, are there going to be any, or is it going to be pure multiplayer. Just that it would be nice to have singleplayer.
Just wondering if you were gonna add space battles.
Pure multiplayer. No single player mode. In fact, CCP made no mention about it and we have done absolutely no testing on it. That should be a hint to you. |
Ranger SnakeBlood
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Posted - 2012.09.30 19:50:00 -
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Well there is likely going to be a coop type of thing but as in eve you are never truely alone even if you play alone, as far as i know there is a horde mode in the pipeline which is against rouge drones, i have a feeling that this horde mode is the begining of possible PVE(player vrs AI for non eve players) game type like eve, it would make it more like eve where PvP is still the meat but PVE is deffinitly the staple of the game for practicing and earning isk, testing equipment with less risk so on so forth |
Pete B
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Posted - 2012.09.30 19:54:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Pete B wrote:Are we gonna have space battles?
Just asking, cause its not in the codex update, so i just thought you would implement it at a later date, but then thinking that its nearly at the end of the year, and Dust 514 is suppose to be ready by this year, and it would be alot of work to put it in, maybe you wouldn't
Also, singleplayer game modes, are there going to be any, or is it going to be pure multiplayer. Just that it would be nice to have singleplayer.
Just wondering if you were gonna add space battles. Pure multiplayer. No single player mode. In fact, CCP made no mention about it and we have done absolutely no testing on it. That should be a hint to you.
Well they did mention they would have a singleplayer game mode (I can't for the life of me find the youtube video).
They said that it would be a 'player vs environment' game mode, and that you could play that way instead of PvP 'if you rather earn ISK/SP that way'.
I am pretty much just asking for a non PvP game mode, as I'm not great PvP.
Also when i say space battles, I mean being able to go in a space ship with weapons, and control it. Kind of like the only space mission in UT2004. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.09.30 20:00:00 -
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Pete B wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Pete B wrote:Are we gonna have space battles?
Just asking, cause its not in the codex update, so i just thought you would implement it at a later date, but then thinking that its nearly at the end of the year, and Dust 514 is suppose to be ready by this year, and it would be alot of work to put it in, maybe you wouldn't
Also, singleplayer game modes, are there going to be any, or is it going to be pure multiplayer. Just that it would be nice to have singleplayer.
Just wondering if you were gonna add space battles. Pure multiplayer. No single player mode. In fact, CCP made no mention about it and we have done absolutely no testing on it. That should be a hint to you. Well they did mention they would have a singleplayer game mode (I can't for the life of me find the youtube video).They said that it would be a 'player vs environment' game mode, and that you could play that way instead of PvP 'if you rather earn ISK/SP that way'. I am pretty much just asking for a non PvP game mode, as I'm not great PvP. Also when i say space battles, I mean being able to go in a space ship with weapons, and control it. Kind of like the only space mission in UT2004.
Try searching under Fanfest Keynote Dust 514. They may have mentioned it there.
If you're talking about the rogue drone horde, that might be it but even then you may need a team to help you because rogue drones tend to come at you in large numbers. And who knows what kind of AI those drones will have since CCP is currently making changes to the AI in Eve Online. |
Pete B
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Posted - 2012.09.30 20:06:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Pete B wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Pete B wrote:Are we gonna have space battles?
Just asking, cause its not in the codex update, so i just thought you would implement it at a later date, but then thinking that its nearly at the end of the year, and Dust 514 is suppose to be ready by this year, and it would be alot of work to put it in, maybe you wouldn't
Also, singleplayer game modes, are there going to be any, or is it going to be pure multiplayer. Just that it would be nice to have singleplayer.
Just wondering if you were gonna add space battles. Pure multiplayer. No single player mode. In fact, CCP made no mention about it and we have done absolutely no testing on it. That should be a hint to you. Well they did mention they would have a singleplayer game mode (I can't for the life of me find the youtube video).They said that it would be a 'player vs environment' game mode, and that you could play that way instead of PvP 'if you rather earn ISK/SP that way'. I am pretty much just asking for a non PvP game mode, as I'm not great PvP. Also when i say space battles, I mean being able to go in a space ship with weapons, and control it. Kind of like the only space mission in UT2004. Try searching under Fanfest Keynote Dust 514. They may have mentioned it there. If you're talking about the rogue drone horde, that might be it but even then you may need a team to help you because rogue drones tend to come at you in large numbers. And who knows what kind of AI those drones will have since CCP is currently making changes to the AI in Eve Online.
That is probably what I'm thinking about. |
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pew pew youredead
What The French
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Posted - 2012.09.30 20:10:00 -
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Pete B wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Pete B wrote:Are we gonna have space battles?
Just asking, cause its not in the codex update, so i just thought you would implement it at a later date, but then thinking that its nearly at the end of the year, and Dust 514 is suppose to be ready by this year, and it would be alot of work to put it in, maybe you wouldn't
Also, singleplayer game modes, are there going to be any, or is it going to be pure multiplayer. Just that it would be nice to have singleplayer.
Just wondering if you were gonna add space battles. Pure multiplayer. No single player mode. In fact, CCP made no mention about it and we have done absolutely no testing on it. That should be a hint to you. Well they did mention they would have a singleplayer game mode (I can't for the life of me find the youtube video). They said that it would be a 'player vs environment' game mode, and that you could play that way instead of PvP 'if you rather earn ISK/SP that way'. I am pretty much just asking for a non PvP game mode, as I'm not great PvP. Also when i say space battles, I mean being able to go in a space ship with weapons, and control it. Kind of like the only space mission in UT2004. if you want to go in space with a spaceship you should go play eve online. there will not be space battles in dust |
Pete B
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Posted - 2012.09.30 20:18:00 -
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pew pew youredead wrote:if you want to go in space with a spaceship you should go play eve online. there will not be space battles in dust
But you don't go into the ships do you? You don't fire the guns. You don't go into fighter ships. There is very little action. I imagine that the most action is observing the battles. |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.30 20:18:00 -
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well there will be space battles above ur heads in dust. WWith the new build showing people in eve when our fights will happen and new warp in points for each district, and you don't have to be in planet mode anymore to view this information.
ONe of the outposts in each map is just for shooting eve players. |
pew pew youredead
What The French
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Posted - 2012.09.30 20:25:00 -
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Pete B wrote:pew pew youredead wrote:if you want to go in space with a spaceship you should go play eve online. there will not be space battles in dust But you don't go into the ships do you? You don't fire the guns. You don't go into fighter ships. There is very little action. I imagine that the most action is observing the battles. i dont understand what you mean. dust is dust its infantry fight on planets. eve is ship combat in space. in eve you control your ship and guns. how can you say observing is most of the action
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Joran Myokenes
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Posted - 2012.09.30 20:36:00 -
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I've talked about this before when someone brought this up on the requests thread. There are a lot of technical and lore related problems to do with having battles on spaceships .Let's tackle the lore first:
- Capsuleers are gods of their own ships, play FTL and you will understand why boarding ships is exceptionally difficult. If you don't want to bother buying the indie game, I will explain. There's this little thing called vacuum. It's when there's is no matter in any area, none, nothing, nada. This void will actively attempt to suck in any matter it can. Specialized shapes and materials can be used to prevent a vacuum from damaging it [insert 200 page science thesis here]. If someone boards your ship, you have two solutions, you can send opposing mercenaries to kill these vile soldiers, or you evacuate their area(optionally), lock down the zone, and vent the atmosphere out every single airlock nearby. There are solutions to this. You can require specialized space combat dropsuits. Essentially just a regular dropsuit with condensed oxygen tanks and electromagnets on the sole of the boot. But if space combat were added even with these dropsuits, it would likely end in an EVE player seeing a jet of oxygen come out of their ship along with a couple of unfortunate mercenaries.
- What would happen when the ship starts to take structural damage, or it is destroyed. Would all the mercenaries die? Would they, again, be sucked out of the ship?
Now, for the technical problems
- How would you manage to get a defensive crew in fast enough, or even an attacking crew. Beyond getting them in fast enough, how would you get them in at all. Boarding pods? A shuttle?
- The EVE and Dust servers are already going to be under strain from what CCP is adding. Now we're suddenly going to add a battle and interior to an entire ship this is definitely not healthy for the servers
I don't want to seem like a nay-Sayer for fun, but there are a lot of problems with a space battle mode for combat, however, if you were to have something like this is space stations, there would be a lot more things you could do, and a lot less issues. |
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