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Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.09.26 13:55:00 -
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Alright Mercs, I'm going to give you a reality check on economics right quick.
Some of you are asking, "Merc pack on sale? Why the hell should I do that when I already have one?"
The same reason many of you have multiple skinweave dropsuits of the same type and should -not say anything about it-. Seriously. You got five skinweave heavy dropsuits? Don't freaggin mention a thing about it.
"Aeon Amadi, you crazy mayne, why you wantin' me t'not say 'nuffin 'bout my rowdy 'bouty people porridge maker?"
Let's take a brief look at your merc pack items:
GÇóDUST 514 Closed Beta access
GÇó40,000 AUR ($20 / Gé¼18 / -ú14)
GÇó30 day Active Skill Booster ($15 / Gé¼13.50 / -ú10.50)
GÇóIn-battle Items (Total Value $15 / Gé¼13.50 / -ú10.50 )
GÇó'Dragonfly' Scout dropsuit x 1 (Permanent Item)
GÇó'Toxin' ICD-9 Submachine Gun x 1 (Permanent Item)
Okay, to hell with the closed beta access - that's about useless when we're so close to open beta and if you're reading this than you already have it.
40,000 Aurum? Well, here's part of that reality check kiddos - you're paying $20 for that anyway so you -might as well- get all the goodies that come with the promotional package while you're at it.
30 Day Active Skill Booster - Are you freaking kidding me? You realize that $15 you're spending on this is actually the same price you're spending on an Eve Online subscription and you're getting it for -FREE- on top of all the other goodies? You know what this thing does? It gives you 50% more skill-points from battles - why the hell would you NOT want this? Why the hell would you NOT want more than one stockpiled for release????
Dragonfly Dropsuit - "But Aeon, I already have one of these.." Yeah, and you know what? This is the only way you can get the damned thing. Remember when the first pokemon movie came out and they had the 23k gold slab plates at burger king? What was it, like, $5 to get the thing in whatever meal it came with? You can't get them anymore and if a collector wants one how do you think he's going to get it?
To elaborate on this, you have it - I want it - it's not in production anymore so how much am I going to pay for it? Answer: A lot. Considering it's on par with a Standard Gallente Scout Suit (type-1) that's a PERMANENT ITEM it's a damn good deal, and it's going to be worth even more when it's no longer available and people want them.
'Toxin' Submachine gun - Same rules apply with the weapon. People use this thing all the time because it's just a damn good gun and it's not going anywhere if you lose a clone - you have an INFINITE amount of them. That makes it powerful in it's own right just being that I'm saving myself, what, 6,000 isk everytime I die, combined with the 10,000 isk suit? Let's do the math on that.
'x' deaths multiplied by 'y' matches (per day) multiplied by 365 days in a year = ????
The Answer? A lot of freaggin isk saved. It doesn't seem like much now but after you realize, "Damn, I'm losing 30,000,000 isk a year because I don't have a Mercenary Pack!" Some of you cynical people are questioning if it's really that much but hey, it's 30 million you didn't have before so what's your beef dude? Not to mention the time and effort of restocking all of it...
EVEN THEN (and this is the most important part) YOU'RE GETTING THREE PERMANENT MAG DROPSUITS.
So, point being, you're going to spend that much money on the aurum by itself - which you are then (inevitably) going to use on the skill boosters so that you can keep up with everyone else. This is a -great- value and the fact that you can stack up the items for release just means that you'll eventually have the opportunity to be a Dust version of the Eve market moguls that thrive on supply and demand.
KEEP the items.
SAVE the items.
SELL the items.
REAP the rewards. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.26 13:57:00 -
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truth^ |
Tbone3222
Doomheim
5
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Posted - 2012.09.26 14:00:00 -
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I will be stockpiling these merc packs, the skill booster alone is worth it
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Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.09.26 14:02:00 -
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Tbone3222 wrote:I will be stockpiling these merc packs, the skill booster alone is worth it
Yes it is - and the fact that we're getting the passive skill booster as well you can just spend your Aurum on that and skyrocket your progress beyond anyone else.
Buy 12 of these things and you've got 480,000 Aurum, which is about 68 7-Day Boosters. There are -about- 52 weeks in a year so you've already got yourself two years worth of boosted SP. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
673
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Posted - 2012.09.26 14:29:00 -
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Much better value than bf3 premium (which I didn't buy) lol. Looks like I'm pickin me up some merc packs. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.09.26 14:41:00 -
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I like to see these boosters posted on the open market in New Eden (as in me selling them and someone else buying them from me). Would be interesting to see how much ISK they would sell for. |
Needless Sacermendor
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Posted - 2012.09.26 14:43:00 -
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I don't imagine you'll be able to fit both passive and active boosters at the same time if that's what you ment ... it'll be one or the other, they both fit in the single "Skill Booster" slot, what the spikes and clusters are is anybody's guess but the boosters will both fit only in the booster slot.
One or other of the spikes n clusters will probs give a temporary boost to certain skills, like an extra 10% to Mechanics giving you more Armor bonus from that skill in the same way the drugs work in Eve. |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.09.26 14:59:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:I don't imagine you'll be able to fit both passive and active boosters at the same time if that's what you ment ... it'll be one or the other, they both fit in the single "Skill Booster" slot, what the spikes and clusters are is anybody's guess but the boosters will both fit only in the booster slot.
One or other of the spikes n clusters will probs give a temporary boost to certain skills, like an extra 10% to Mechanics giving you more Armor bonus from that skill in the same way the drugs work in Eve.
Spikes/Clusters are going to be temporary things such as a temporary 1,000,000 SP that lasts for 'x' amount of time or things like Mechanics 3, Engineering 3, and Electronics 3 that lasts for 'x' amount of time. At least, this is my theory based on what I've been told.
As far as having an Active and a Passive Skill Booster, it's not so unbelievable what with Eve Online having 10 implants at once. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.09.26 15:00:00 -
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What I would give for snake implants on my merc. |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.09.26 15:15:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:What I would give for snake implants on my merc.
Haha, a Dust merc with a full set of slave implants xD! |
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.09.26 15:30:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:What I would give for snake implants on my merc. Haha, a Dust merc with a full set of slave implants xD!
You'd be pretty pissed when you get run over by a LAV though with that much ISK in your head. |
Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
50
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Posted - 2012.09.26 15:32:00 -
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Yup. You're right on the money. When CCP sold an HD stream of fanfest for a PLEX people who got it got a male t-shrt, a female t-shirt, and a special edition hauler ship. I bought 30 HD streams so I could sell the loot you got with it. So... looking at the economics of it:
*prices below may not be accurate today, and only reflect my prices at the time I did this. Sold items are represented by average selling price for the lot of it.
1X PLEX = 500 million ISK
Total in: 500 Mil ISK
Iteron Mk IV Quaffe Spec. Ed. = 700 mil ISK
M. Quaffe T-Shirt = 120 mil ISK
F. Quaffe T-Shirt = 340 mil ISK
Total out: 1.16 bill ISK
Whole thing took 2-3 weeks from start to finish for me. Not too shabby.
The difference between EvE and DUST in this example is the *stuff* you get is actually functional, whereas all the crap I was selling above was only for collectors and CQ fashonistas. I agree w/ you OP... if you aren't EvE rich you could get a good head start w/ a few extra MERC packs. |
nepher sesoch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2012.09.26 15:33:00 -
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Enticing us successfully to spend money is what will make the game financially viable. Much like PLEX the Merc pack is a likely transferral vehicle for $ to ISK for the buyers. When the full player market is enabled you would be more than compensated for the purchace of these items now by gaining the extra ISK from the sales of duplicate of unwanted items later on. |
Necandi Brasil
Conspiratus Immortalis
245
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Posted - 2012.09.26 16:38:00 -
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I agree with everything Aeon Amadi said...
I will be buying 1 more merc pack asap :)
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Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2012.09.26 16:45:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:I don't imagine you'll be able to fit both passive and active boosters at the same time if that's what you ment
Take a look at your character sheet - you have separate slots for both passive and active boosters. |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.09.26 16:47:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:I agree with everything Aeon Amadi said...
I will be buying 1 more merc pack asap :)
And by doing so - giving more funding for CCP to make this the greatest MMOFPS game ever ^_^ |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.26 16:47:00 -
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+1
Some Mercs seems to forgot that this is a Free 2 Play.
They're making offers, you pay for it or you walk away. That's all...
Good math theory, I'll keep all that things in mind ... |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.26 17:01:00 -
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I haven't even bought 1. I got 400 AUR. Haven't run out. I have to say though regarding the suit being good... Meh. I haven't used anything less than type2 assault for about a month. I just don't think I'd ever use it... SMG maybe, 30day booster, that'd be nice.
But I'm cheap. Btw telling everyone to buy them is a good way to lower their value. Supply vs demand. |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.09.26 17:11:00 -
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Not saying everyone have to buy it, but it's gonna be the all story of this game : put real money, or not ... Keeping in mind that it will be F2P and not P2W (hope so...)
And as a MAG fan, i will take this pack. If you are a RAVEN/SVER/VALOR MAG fan, so just take the concern dropsuit in market during release time. If you don't care, walk away...
And if you don't have money for the moment, well you're maybe missing something, but nobody can tell if in the future you won't be able to buy it with ISK... And for thoose who don't want to use real money, they have to work harder...
Edit : Hope they won't make it as DCUO. In this game, if you want to go best fit, you NEED to put money. This is not F2P... |
V4DOL
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.26 17:19:00 -
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I bought the first merc pack, and plan on buying three of the new ones.... X-) |
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crazy space
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.09.26 17:35:00 -
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you don't understand I'm scared that CCP will just release this suits for AUR at release and they won't be special. |
Ima Leet
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.09.26 17:38:00 -
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crazy space wrote:you don't understand I'm scared that CCP will just release this suits for AUR at release and they won't be special.
they were previously released on the marketplace before. i would not mind if they came out on the market again. although i would rather try to get one free... i dont want to pay $6 for one suit. thats lame |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.09.26 17:44:00 -
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It's just up to you !!!!
They are Type-1 dropsuits !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO they won't have anything sp+¬cial except the SKIN !!! I'm playing Type-2 the all build, and i'm going very very very fine... So Type-1 is nothing...
It's the same Merc Pack with additionnals things !!! It's not because your beta player that every is a due...
IT IS A FREE 2 PLAY !!! |
Foldenfly
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2012.09.26 17:45:00 -
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Ima Leet wrote:crazy space wrote:you don't understand I'm scared that CCP will just release this suits for AUR at release and they won't be special. they were previously released on the marketplace before. i would not mind if they came out on the market again. although i would rather try to get one free... i dont want to pay $6 for one suit. thats lame
Also important to note these are BPOs. Anything you buy on the market will need to be replenished upon loss.
That said, great post. It's a F2P game that most people would otherwise spend $60 for the title. I do disagree in buying multiples, however. CCP has stated they will periodically release different merc packs, and I would personally wait to purchase the different ones in an effort to get a myriad of BPO items. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.26 17:47:00 -
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It was -ú4 per suit or -ú14 for the merc pack. I'm just going to buy the Valor & Raven suits for ISK when the market goes live however.
It's not the spending money that gets me. It's the fact they might release another pack... If there was more information about upcoming releases, it'd be good. However we're all in beta, and IMHO CCP should dish out the bonus suits to those who already bought a pack. As a gesture of good will.
Edit: I might just go buy 1 now... 1 can't hurt :D |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.09.26 17:50:00 -
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Wait did CCP announce or say anything about the MAG dropsuits yet?! Are they returning? |
Ima Leet
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.09.26 17:53:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote:
Wait did CCP announce or say anything about the MAG dropsuits yet?! Are they returning?
..... ..... ..... check stickies... ? lol yes! |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.09.26 17:55:00 -
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I missed the explanation, how are people going to access the MAG drop suits? |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.09.26 17:55:00 -
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When CCP decided to put out the Merc Pack, a PRE-ORDER pack, on market, financial game has begin...
The all story ... And it's just the beta  |
Ima Leet
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.09.26 17:57:00 -
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Super Cargo wrote:I missed the explanation, how are people going to access the MAG drop suits?
really.?
CHECK STICKIES! damnit people L2R
edit: maybe this is why its so hard for people to PTFO |
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