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Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:01:00 -
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Quote:CheatingGÇ¥ or farming SP without risk Update: There is fix planned for this, the idea is that there will be a cap on total rewards that can be earned per match.
Does this apply only to people who are damaging and repairing stuff in the back of the base for point, or to everyone?
If I shoot 25 people in the face and and dont die, next to a defend order, I SHOULD GET ALL OF THE SP.
WE SHOULDNT BE PUNISHED WITH A SP CAP BECAUSE SOME TALENTLESS LOSERS CANT BE BOTHERED TO LEARN HOW TO AIM. |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:03:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Quote:CheatingGÇ¥ or farming SP without risk Update: There is fix planned for this, the idea is that there will be a cap on total rewards that can be earned per match.
Does this apply only to people who are damaging and repairing stuff in the back of the base for point, or to everyone? If I shoot 25 people in the face and and dont die, next to a defend order, I SHOULD GET ALL OF THE SP. WE SHOULDNT BE PUNISHED WITH A SP CAP BECAUSE SOME TALENTLESS LOSERS CANT BE BOTHERED TO LEARN HOW TO AIM.
... Why not, exactly? I think it's a pretty practical idea - gives some balance so that you'll never advance faster than me just because you've got nothing to do throughout the day.. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:04:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Quote:CheatingGÇ¥ or farming SP without risk Update: There is fix planned for this, the idea is that there will be a cap on total rewards that can be earned per match.
Does this apply only to people who are damaging and repairing stuff in the back of the base for point, or to everyone? If I shoot 25 people in the face and and dont die, next to a defend order, I SHOULD GET ALL OF THE SP. WE SHOULDNT BE PUNISHED WITH A SP CAP BECAUSE SOME TALENTLESS LOSERS CANT BE BOTHERED TO LEARN HOW TO AIM.
Shut the **** up for god sake, you've no idea what the SP cap is, it could be 50k sp which is not easy to get unless you go 25/0 every match, it could be 100k SP which is a lot less than the farmers are getting at the moment and you'd never get that in a drop suit. |
Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:06:00 -
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As long as the cap only applies to the a specific game and a specific action IE: Repairing then i guess its on ok fix, not the best. I as a normal logi pilot should never be affected because the amount of repping that i do, and i do rep alot, should be a small fraction of what someone who is farming gets.
We all sort of agree that there has to be a better way so how about a discussion on what that better solution is.
O and the WARRIORS are the biggest failures of any group i've seen play this game. Was playing against them 3 games last night and each one they sat back and repped a drop ship causing their team to red line and be slaughtered. Complete newbs who know they are no where near good at this game so they require being hand fed sp. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:06:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Quote:CheatingGÇ¥ or farming SP without risk Update: There is fix planned for this, the idea is that there will be a cap on total rewards that can be earned per match.
Does this apply only to people who are damaging and repairing stuff in the back of the base for point, or to everyone? If I shoot 25 people in the face and and dont die, next to a defend order, I SHOULD GET ALL OF THE SP. WE SHOULDNT BE PUNISHED WITH A SP CAP BECAUSE SOME TALENTLESS LOSERS CANT BE BOTHERED TO LEARN HOW TO AIM. ... Why not, exactly? I think it's a pretty practical idea - gives some balance so that you'll never advance faster than me just because you've got nothing to do throughout the day..
WTF IS THIS HANDHOLDING SOCIALISM IN MY EVE UNIVERSE? I goto school and volunteer, so STFU. I play Dust max 2-3 hours a day when I have time. |
HK-40
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:06:00 -
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Jariel Manton wrote:We all sort of agree that there has to be a better way so how about a discussion on what that better solution is.
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Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:08:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Quote:CheatingGÇ¥ or farming SP without risk Update: There is fix planned for this, the idea is that there will be a cap on total rewards that can be earned per match.
Does this apply only to people who are damaging and repairing stuff in the back of the base for point, or to everyone? If I shoot 25 people in the face and and dont die, next to a defend order, I SHOULD GET ALL OF THE SP. WE SHOULDNT BE PUNISHED WITH A SP CAP BECAUSE SOME TALENTLESS LOSERS CANT BE BOTHERED TO LEARN HOW TO AIM. Shut the **** up for god sake, you've no idea what the SP cap is, it could be 50k sp which is not easy to get unless you go 25/0 every match, it could be 100k SP which is a lot less than the farmers are getting at the moment and you'd never get that in a drop suit.
I regularly make more than 50k when just shooting people in the face, dropping nano hives and fixing armor for people. |
Ima Leet
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:09:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Quote:CheatingGÇ¥ or farming SP without risk Update: There is fix planned for this, the idea is that there will be a cap on total rewards that can be earned per match.
Does this apply only to people who are damaging and repairing stuff in the back of the base for point, or to everyone? If I shoot 25 people in the face and and dont die, next to a defend order, I SHOULD GET ALL OF THE SP. WE SHOULDNT BE PUNISHED WITH A SP CAP BECAUSE SOME TALENTLESS LOSERS CANT BE BOTHERED TO LEARN HOW TO AIM. QFT +1 |
Seran Jinkar
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:10:00 -
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The real issue would be that every round will be likely to start with 2 squads boosting their sp gain before they start to play. It's still not a real solution as boosting will still be the easiest way to get to the cap. |
Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:10:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Quote:CheatingGÇ¥ or farming SP without risk Update: There is fix planned for this, the idea is that there will be a cap on total rewards that can be earned per match.
Does this apply only to people who are damaging and repairing stuff in the back of the base for point, or to everyone? If I shoot 25 people in the face and and dont die, next to a defend order, I SHOULD GET ALL OF THE SP. WE SHOULDNT BE PUNISHED WITH A SP CAP BECAUSE SOME TALENTLESS LOSERS CANT BE BOTHERED TO LEARN HOW TO AIM. ... Why not, exactly? I think it's a pretty practical idea - gives some balance so that you'll never advance faster than me just because you've got nothing to do throughout the day.. I goto school and volunteer, so STFU. I play Dust max 2-3 hours a day when I have time.
Awwwhhhh - I'm sorry to hear that it angers you so much, but seriously I'm not going to... haha... STFU just because you told me to do so.
I play Dust from anywhere between three and five hours a night - and you know what happens every time? I get 70-80k sp the first match, 'bout 50k the next, 20-30 the next two matches and then suddenly I'm barely able to clear 5k with a high KDR and earning my squad multiple orbital bombardments.
There's already diminishing returns - a cap would just save you 'x' amount of 5k SP games of you doing your optimum. Quit whining and do something else with the time, damn. |
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ReGnUM SLAYER DEI
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:13:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Quote:CheatingGÇ¥ or farming SP without risk Update: There is fix planned for this, the idea is that there will be a cap on total rewards that can be earned per match.
Does this apply only to people who are damaging and repairing stuff in the back of the base for point, or to everyone? If I shoot 25 people in the face and and dont die, next to a defend order, I SHOULD GET ALL OF THE SP. WE SHOULDNT BE PUNISHED WITH A SP CAP BECAUSE SOME TALENTLESS LOSERS CANT BE BOTHERED TO LEARN HOW TO AIM. ... Why not, exactly? I think it's a pretty practical idea - gives some balance so that you'll never advance faster than me just because you've got nothing to do throughout the day..
Sorry you work 12 hour day shift and have no time for DUST, but it sounds like a personal problem |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:13:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Quote:CheatingGÇ¥ or farming SP without risk Update: There is fix planned for this, the idea is that there will be a cap on total rewards that can be earned per match.
Does this apply only to people who are damaging and repairing stuff in the back of the base for point, or to everyone? If I shoot 25 people in the face and and dont die, next to a defend order, I SHOULD GET ALL OF THE SP. WE SHOULDNT BE PUNISHED WITH A SP CAP BECAUSE SOME TALENTLESS LOSERS CANT BE BOTHERED TO LEARN HOW TO AIM. ... Why not, exactly? I think it's a pretty practical idea - gives some balance so that you'll never advance faster than me just because you've got nothing to do throughout the day.. I goto school and volunteer, so STFU. I play Dust max 2-3 hours a day when I have time. Quit whining and do something else with the time, damn.
Or I could not be punished for playing well. |
ReGnUM SLAYER DEI
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:14:00 -
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btw paran to mind moving to my thread |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:15:00 -
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ReGnUM SLAYER DEI wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Quote:CheatingGÇ¥ or farming SP without risk Update: There is fix planned for this, the idea is that there will be a cap on total rewards that can be earned per match.
Does this apply only to people who are damaging and repairing stuff in the back of the base for point, or to everyone? If I shoot 25 people in the face and and dont die, next to a defend order, I SHOULD GET ALL OF THE SP. WE SHOULDNT BE PUNISHED WITH A SP CAP BECAUSE SOME TALENTLESS LOSERS CANT BE BOTHERED TO LEARN HOW TO AIM. ... Why not, exactly? I think it's a pretty practical idea - gives some balance so that you'll never advance faster than me just because you've got nothing to do throughout the day.. Sorry you work 12 hour day shift and have no time for DUST, but it sounds like a personal question
I don't - actually. I have plenty of time to play Dust, but I also play Eve Online and know that no-one ever makes more SP because they have more time on their hands. Sure, you can get implants and increase your skill point accumulation but it's not without boundaries that no other player has access to outside of the game. |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:16:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:
Or I could not be punished for playing well.
Yes - everything is about you. You're being punished because someone else is doing something that wasn't intended within the game mechanics so they're going to change the system JUST TO ANGER LITTLE OLD PARAN.
Nah, brah, get your ego straightened out. It's not punishment - its' freaggin balance. Get your head out of the sand. |
Seran Jinkar
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:18:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:
Or I could not be punished for playing well.
Yes - everything is about you. You're being punished because someone else is doing something that wasn't intended within the game mechanics so they're going to change the system JUST TO ANGER LITTLE OLD PARAN. Nah, brah, get your ego straightened out. It's not punishment - its' freaggin balance. Get your head out of the sand.
Rather feels like a "Oh we haven't thought about this .. let's do something fast .... NOW!"
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Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:21:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:
Or I could not be punished for playing well.
Yes - everything is about you. You're being punished because someone else is doing something that wasn't intended within the game mechanics so they're going to change the system JUST TO ANGER LITTLE OLD PARAN. Nah, brah, get your ego straightened out. It's not punishment - its' freaggin balance. Get your head out of the sand.
You know, if you spent half as much time practicing your aim as you do trolling here, maybe you'd get more SP. |
ReGnUM SLAYER DEI
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:21:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:
Or I could not be punished for playing well.
Yes - everything is about you. You're being punished because someone else is doing something that wasn't intended within the game mechanics so they're going to change the system JUST TO ANGER LITTLE OLD PARAN. Nah, brah, get your ego straightened out. It's not punishment - its' freaggin balance. Get your head out of the sand.
It is because of people like you that is game is so F^
LOL so your saying people go 5-9, should get the same SP as someone who goes 20-1 ?? |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:26:00 -
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ReGnUM SLAYER DEI wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:
Or I could not be punished for playing well.
Yes - everything is about you. You're being punished because someone else is doing something that wasn't intended within the game mechanics so they're going to change the system JUST TO ANGER LITTLE OLD PARAN. Nah, brah, get your ego straightened out. It's not punishment - its' freaggin balance. Get your head out of the sand. It is because of people like you that is game is so F^ LOL so your saying people go 5-9, should get the same SP as someone who goes 20-1 ??
No, idiot, I'm saying that this game shouldn't be -JUST- about racking up SP at the end of a match. If the maximum per day is 100,000 sp or whatever it wouldn't matter if you were going 20-1 or 5-9, it would just affect the length of time you spent attaining that end.
Maybe if you actually sat down and played Eve Online (yanno, the game this is connecting too) you'd see how balanced the SP system is. It's based specifically on time and the only people who are more powerful than you are the people who have been playing longer than you have - not the people who have more time to play because they have less obligations.
Try not to blow a freaggin gasket because you can't just power-grind your way to high kingdom and be the best of the best because you feel entitled to having more rewards than anyone else. |
Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:28:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:
Or I could not be punished for playing well.
Yes - everything is about you. You're being punished because someone else is doing something that wasn't intended within the game mechanics so they're going to change the system JUST TO ANGER LITTLE OLD PARAN. Nah, brah, get your ego straightened out. It's not punishment - its' freaggin balance. Get your head out of the sand. You know, if you spent half as much time practicing your aim as you do trolling here, maybe you'd get more SP.
It's not trolling it's a valid opinion. Aim has nothing to do with SP - by the way - being as team-work based actions net in FAR more SP than mindless killing.
Here's a medal for being able to do what everyone else can do. Go get 'em lone wolf! |
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ReGnUM SLAYER DEI
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:30:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:ReGnUM SLAYER DEI wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:
Or I could not be punished for playing well.
Yes - everything is about you. You're being punished because someone else is doing something that wasn't intended within the game mechanics so they're going to change the system JUST TO ANGER LITTLE OLD PARAN. Nah, brah, get your ego straightened out. It's not punishment - its' freaggin balance. Get your head out of the sand. It is because of people like you that is game is so F^ LOL so your saying people go 5-9, should get the same SP as someone who goes 20-1 ?? No, idiot, I'm saying that this game shouldn't be -JUST- about racking up SP at the end of a match. If the maximum per day is 100,000 sp or whatever it wouldn't matter if you were going 20-1 or 5-9, it would just affect the length of time you spent attaining that end. Maybe if you actually sat down and played Eve Online (yanno, the game this is connecting too) you'd see how balanced the SP system is. It's based specifically on time and the only people who are more powerful than you are the people who have been playing longer than you have - not the people who have more time to play because they have less obligations. Try not to blow a freaggin gasket because you can't just power-grind your way to high kingdom and be the best of the best because you feel entitled to having more rewards than anyone else.
LOL i don't like mining asteroids... eves not for me
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:32:00 -
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ReGnUM SLAYER DEI wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:ReGnUM SLAYER DEI wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:
Or I could not be punished for playing well.
Yes - everything is about you. You're being punished because someone else is doing something that wasn't intended within the game mechanics so they're going to change the system JUST TO ANGER LITTLE OLD PARAN. Nah, brah, get your ego straightened out. It's not punishment - its' freaggin balance. Get your head out of the sand. It is because of people like you that is game is so F^ LOL so your saying people go 5-9, should get the same SP as someone who goes 20-1 ?? No, idiot, I'm saying that this game shouldn't be -JUST- about racking up SP at the end of a match. If the maximum per day is 100,000 sp or whatever it wouldn't matter if you were going 20-1 or 5-9, it would just affect the length of time you spent attaining that end. Maybe if you actually sat down and played Eve Online (yanno, the game this is connecting too) you'd see how balanced the SP system is. It's based specifically on time and the only people who are more powerful than you are the people who have been playing longer than you have - not the people who have more time to play because they have less obligations. Try not to blow a freaggin gasket because you can't just power-grind your way to high kingdom and be the best of the best because you feel entitled to having more rewards than anyone else. LOL i don't like mining asteroids... eves not for me
It shows in your general aptitudes. We'll be waiting for you in null-sec. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:32:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:
Or I could not be punished for playing well.
Yes - everything is about you. You're being punished because someone else is doing something that wasn't intended within the game mechanics so they're going to change the system JUST TO ANGER LITTLE OLD PARAN. Nah, brah, get your ego straightened out. It's not punishment - its' freaggin balance. Get your head out of the sand. You know, if you spent half as much time practicing your aim as you do trolling here, maybe you'd get more SP. It's not trolling it's a valid opinion. Aim has nothing to do with SP - by the way - being as team-work based actions net in FAR more SP than mindless killing. Here's a medal for being able to do what everyone else can do. Go get 'em lone wolf!
I work with a talented group of individuals. Not wanting to be punished for playing well is a valid opinion as well. The problem is here YOU feel entitled to points without doing the work to attain them. If I work harder, and play better, I should get more points than you and not be limited by soem artificial cap, which does NOTHING to solve the issue at had. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:34:00 -
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Well the "slayers" already get lower amounts of SP than anyone else for the amount of work they put in, I see no probs in the future. |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:36:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:
Or I could not be punished for playing well.
Yes - everything is about you. You're being punished because someone else is doing something that wasn't intended within the game mechanics so they're going to change the system JUST TO ANGER LITTLE OLD PARAN. Nah, brah, get your ego straightened out. It's not punishment - its' freaggin balance. Get your head out of the sand. You know, if you spent half as much time practicing your aim as you do trolling here, maybe you'd get more SP. It's not trolling it's a valid opinion. Aim has nothing to do with SP - by the way - being as team-work based actions net in FAR more SP than mindless killing. Here's a medal for being able to do what everyone else can do. Go get 'em lone wolf! I work with a talented group of individuals. Not wanting to be punished for playing well is a valid opinion as well. The problem is here YOU feel entitled to points without doing the work to attain them. If I work harder, and play better, I should get more points than you and not be limited by soem artificial cap, which does NOTHING to solve the issue at had.
Do tell me what "corporation" you 'work' with so that I can quash those laughable ambitions you have mate. I said nothing about earning more points because I'm - yanno - doing something OTHER than racking in kills. I said that a cap would bring balance and you're still whining about how it "punishment". Jesus christ, have you NEVER played an MMO before? |
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.09.25 16:03:00 -
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Jariel Manton wrote:As long as the cap only applies to the a specific game and a specific action IE: Repairing then i guess its on ok fix, not the best. I as a normal logi pilot should never be affected because the amount of repping that i do, and i do rep alot, should be a small fraction of what someone who is farming gets.
We all sort of agree that there has to be a better way so how about a discussion on what that better solution is.
O and the WARRIORS are the biggest failures of any group i've seen play this game. Was playing against them 3 games last night and each one they sat back and repped a drop ship causing their team to red line and be slaughtered. Complete newbs who know they are no where near good at this game so they require being hand fed sp.
LMAO................ we're complete noobs that cant shoot and are no good at this game.
But you got lost and redlined because we were not playing........ HUH ?.......
This is classic hatefrom well......... i love this. |
Tarn Adari
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
157
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Posted - 2012.09.25 16:41:00 -
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Simple solution to boosters (and at the same time encourage teamplay): just lower the SP reward for individual actions (kills, assists, repairing, hacking...i.e.everything) by a factor of 5 or 10, and then add a substantial SP bonus for winning a match. That way boosters would be inclined to work for winning the match and all others will be tempted to work together as a team, to have a better chance of winning. Good players will still be rewarded (less than now, but still...). As it is now, people just work for maximizing their WPs, the outcome of the battle is irrelevant. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.25 16:56:00 -
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It sure is a big old can of worms we got here
Also this thread haz much emo.
Tbh if they get the cap right then well its better than nothing and well I guess would do as a hotfix but nothing more. Needs moar work ccp MOAR lolz |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.09.25 16:58:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Quote:CheatingGÇ¥ or farming SP without risk Update: There is fix planned for this, the idea is that there will be a cap on total rewards that can be earned per match.
Does this apply only to people who are damaging and repairing stuff in the back of the base for point, or to everyone? If I shoot 25 people in the face and and dont die, next to a defend order, I SHOULD GET ALL OF THE SP. WE SHOULDNT BE PUNISHED WITH A SP CAP BECAUSE SOME TALENTLESS LOSERS CANT BE BOTHERED TO LEARN HOW TO AIM. ... Why not, exactly? I think it's a pretty practical idea - gives some balance so that you'll never advance faster than me just because you've got nothing to do throughout the day..
I kind of like the idea. It'll limit players on a purely SP hunt. If you can never get more than a certain amount of SP than it makes more sense to work together as a team and make sure everyone has a chance at max SP. It'll be something that will promote teamwork to further the greater good of the squad. I know that there are players that will easily get the max but its better for the whole player base and the game play itself. |
ReGnUM SLAYER DEI
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Posted - 2012.09.25 17:36:00 -
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Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Quote:CheatingGÇ¥ or farming SP without risk Update: There is fix planned for this, the idea is that there will be a cap on total rewards that can be earned per match.
Does this apply only to people who are damaging and repairing stuff in the back of the base for point, or to everyone? If I shoot 25 people in the face and and dont die, next to a defend order, I SHOULD GET ALL OF THE SP. WE SHOULDNT BE PUNISHED WITH A SP CAP BECAUSE SOME TALENTLESS LOSERS CANT BE BOTHERED TO LEARN HOW TO AIM. ... Why not, exactly? I think it's a pretty practical idea - gives some balance so that you'll never advance faster than me just because you've got nothing to do throughout the day.. I kind of like the idea. It'll limit players on a purely SP hunt. If you can never get more than a certain amount of SP than it makes more sense to work together as a team and make sure everyone has a chance at max SP. It'll be something that will promote teamwork to further the greater good of the squad. I know that there are players that will easily get the max but its better for the whole player base and the game play itself.
NO Support player ruin FPS
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Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2012.09.25 17:57:00 -
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Aeon,
Name of my corp doesn't matter. We only recruit handpicked pros, that's why you don't see us advertising here to troll in a ton of noobs and spies. Just know that you are on the list to get stomped if you continue to run your mouth by insulting people who have a different opinion. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.25 18:05:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Aeon,
Name of my corp doesn't matter. We only recruit handpicked pros, that's why you don't see us advertising here to troll in a ton of noobs and spies. Just know that you are on the list to get stomped if you continue to run your mouth by insulting people who have a different opinion. AWWWW YEEAAAAHH!!!! **** is going down in here! |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2012.09.25 19:57:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Aeon,
Name of my corp doesn't matter. We only recruit handpicked pros, that's why you don't see us advertising here to troll in a ton of noobs and spies. Just know that you are on the list to get stomped if you continue to run your mouth by insulting people who have a different opinion. AWWWW YEEAAAAHH!!!! **** is going down in here!
I know right? |
Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2012.09.25 21:36:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Aeon,
Name of my corp doesn't matter. We only recruit handpicked pros, that's why you don't see us advertising here to troll in a ton of noobs and spies. Just know that you are on the list to get stomped if you continue to run your mouth by insulting people who have a different opinion. AWWWW YEEAAAAHH!!!! **** is going down in here! I know right?
Challenge accepted - but your issue is with me and not my corporation.
Look forward to seeing your "pros", mate. I've got just the thing for 'em... |
Jackd44
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.25 23:14:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Aeon,
Name of my corp doesn't matter. We only recruit handpicked pros, that's why you don't see us advertising here to troll in a ton of noobs and spies. Just know that you are on the list to get stomped if you continue to run your mouth by insulting people who have a different opinion. AWWWW YEEAAAAHH!!!! **** is going down in here! I know right? Challenge accepted - but your issue is with me and not my corporation. Look forward to seeing your "pros", mate. I've got just the thing for 'em...
Stomp em Aeon! I'll be there to Repair and Revive if needed. :) |
Sin3 DeusNomine
Doomheim
142
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Posted - 2012.09.26 02:05:00 -
[36] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Aeon,
Name of my corp doesn't matter. We only recruit handpicked pros, that's why you don't see us advertising here to troll in a ton of noobs and spies. Just know that you are on the list to get stomped if you continue to run your mouth by insulting people who have a different opinion. AWWWW YEEAAAAHH!!!! **** is going down in here! I know right? Challenge accepted - but your issue is with me and not my corporation. Look forward to seeing your "pros", mate. I've got just the thing for 'em... I am sorry Aeon I am pretty sure the thing you got for us will not save your rear. Lets just say it is very very rare for us to have a bad game. And I have a feeling your not going to get far on killing us. :) But good luck to you and maybe you will meet us in battle and not spend to much money replacing your suits afterwords.
But back on subject there is alot easier fixes to this One easy fix is not allowing Repair to give warpoints if they are behind the redline on there side of the map. That would stop all farming of SP basically. MCC farming might be viable because some of them are not past the redline but if they are not on there side of the redline that means it is easy for the enemy to take them out. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.09.26 02:10:00 -
[37] - Quote
-.o
Why are there so many carebears crying over the SP cap?
Killing people isn't about getting rewards. It's about inflicting pain & loss. I'm disgusted by this behavior |
KingBlade82
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.09.26 02:26:00 -
[38] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Quote:CheatingGÇ¥ or farming SP without risk Update: There is fix planned for this, the idea is that there will be a cap on total rewards that can be earned per match.
Does this apply only to people who are damaging and repairing stuff in the back of the base for point, or to everyone? If I shoot 25 people in the face and and dont die, next to a defend order, I SHOULD GET ALL OF THE SP. WE SHOULDNT BE PUNISHED WITH A SP CAP BECAUSE SOME TALENTLESS LOSERS CANT BE BOTHERED TO LEARN HOW TO AIM. ... Why not, exactly? I think it's a pretty practical idea - gives some balance so that you'll never advance faster than me just because you've got nothing to do throughout the day..
ummm the devs r stupid they cant see big picture for some reason it wont matter
1. free points r free points; no skill super easy; alot will do it etc etc etc
2. years down the road people will max when they do max this doesnt matter anymore
3. trophy hunters etc. almost always boost/cheat i dont see how this is an issue considering how F**ked up Eve is from what i hear they exploit for fun
they would have to monitor all of us for it to be "fair" example killzone 2, starhawk they watch to see if people r abusing the system
CCP sees whats right in front not whats to come and i think i would be the best employee for them to hire :P i think the "what if things went wrong" aspect |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2012.09.26 03:00:00 -
[39] - Quote
you guys talking about this balancing out people who have more time do realize that this will simply... NOT balance out people who have more time, right?
it caps how many skillpoints you can get per game. guy with more time has time to play more games.. guy with more time STILL has more skillpoints than you.
also, wtf are you talking about 50k a game? seriously? i've gotten over 300k in a single match without boosting, and who the **** am i? nobody, that's who.
boosting is bad, but so is this cap. |
drake sadani
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.09.26 03:09:00 -
[40] - Quote
so your saying i can only do well in a match up to a certain point ...... well thats just dumb . how about take the new COD stance to boosting ban people |
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Newshot
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.09.26 06:31:00 -
[41] - Quote
Yo, ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS had fun messing with you and your boys today. Was fun playing tag with lav's |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.09.26 07:53:00 -
[42] - Quote
Newshot wrote:Yo, ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS had fun messing with you and your boys today. Was fun playing tag with lav's
Yeah Blended Dave tried to shoot at me to TK and thats when we said lets show these "warriors"....bah!! how its done.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.09.26 08:02:00 -
[43] - Quote
Paran Tadec wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:
Or I could not be punished for playing well.
Yes - everything is about you. You're being punished because someone else is doing something that wasn't intended within the game mechanics so they're going to change the system JUST TO ANGER LITTLE OLD PARAN. Nah, brah, get your ego straightened out. It's not punishment - its' freaggin balance. Get your head out of the sand. You know, if you spent half as much time practicing your aim as you do trolling here, maybe you'd get more SP. It's not trolling it's a valid opinion. Aim has nothing to do with SP - by the way - being as team-work based actions net in FAR more SP than mindless killing. Here's a medal for being able to do what everyone else can do. Go get 'em lone wolf! I work with a talented group of individuals. Not wanting to be punished for playing well is a valid opinion as well. The problem is here YOU feel entitled to points without doing the work to attain them. If I work harder, and play better, I should get more points than you and not be limited by soem artificial cap, which does NOTHING to solve the issue at had.
Playing 24/7 is bad for your health, bad for your wallet and bad for little helmeted warrior who at that rate never gets to play.
Its called DIMINISHING returns. Its there for a reason. It means that after a very long play session that its now time to exit that basement. That very bright yellow thing in the sky is a Sun. Those nice looking items with jiggly fronts are WOMEN. Chasing WOMEN leads to a FUN TIME. |
Sin3 DeusNomine
Doomheim
142
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Posted - 2012.09.26 16:02:00 -
[44] - Quote
Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:
Yes - everything is about you. You're being punished because someone else is doing something that wasn't intended within the game mechanics so they're going to change the system JUST TO ANGER LITTLE OLD PARAN.
Nah, brah, get your ego straightened out. It's not punishment - its' freaggin balance. Get your head out of the sand.
You know, if you spent half as much time practicing your aim as you do trolling here, maybe you'd get more SP. It's not trolling it's a valid opinion. Aim has nothing to do with SP - by the way - being as team-work based actions net in FAR more SP than mindless killing. Here's a medal for being able to do what everyone else can do. Go get 'em lone wolf! I work with a talented group of individuals. Not wanting to be punished for playing well is a valid opinion as well. The problem is here YOU feel entitled to points without doing the work to attain them. If I work harder, and play better, I should get more points than you and not be limited by soem artificial cap, which does NOTHING to solve the issue at had. Playing 24/7 is bad for your health, bad for your wallet and bad for little helmeted warrior who at that rate never gets to play. Its called DIMINISHING returns. Its there for a reason. It means that after a very long play session that its now time to exit that basement. That very bright yellow thing in the sky is a Sun. Those nice looking items with jiggly fronts are WOMEN. Chasing WOMEN leads to a FUN TIME.
First off you are pretty stupid if you do not know the difference between SP CAP and SP DIMINISHING RETURNS. Capping people so there performace because people are boosting is a very bad fix to a problem. There are alot easier ways to fix this problem. It is a fail fix and just hurts everyone else.
Secondly. Really the Get a life thing is ********. Third you really calling boob's jiggly fronts. I am guessing you do not see much of them if that is your name for them. |
oneshytalk
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2012.09.26 20:12:00 -
[45] - Quote
Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:[quote=Newshot]Yo, ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS had fun messing with you and your boys today. Was fun playing tag with lav's
Yeah Blended Dave tried to shoot at me to TK and thats when we said lets show these "warriors"....bah!! how its don |
Dante Brown
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.09.26 20:19:00 -
[46] - Quote
Ladies,Ladies lets settle this on the battlefield. |
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
108
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Posted - 2012.09.26 20:34:00 -
[47] - Quote
oneshytalk wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:[quote=Newshot]Yo, ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS had fun messing with you and your boys today. Was fun playing tag with lav's Yeah Blended Dave tried to shoot at me to TK and thats when we said lets show these "warriors"....bah!! how its don
tard^^^ |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2012.09.26 20:37:00 -
[48] - Quote
Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Its called DIMINISHING returns. Its there for a reason. It means that after a very long play session that its now time to exit that basement. That very bright yellow thing in the sky is a Sun. Those nice looking items with jiggly fronts are WOMEN. Chasing WOMEN leads to a FUN TIME.
Meh, I'm ok with diminishing returns, just not hardcaps on the amount of SP I can gain. Reread what I've posted.
And I dont chase women, they come to me. |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.09.26 21:01:00 -
[49] - Quote
Dante Brown wrote:Ladies,Ladies lets settle this on the battlefield.
-Sigh- They're too busy hiding behind their words and baseline threats. Seriously, the minute this game goes live half of this forum is going to suddenly get a wake-up call that "evetards" are always going to ruin their day in some way, shape or form.
Why fight when I have enough ISK to buy every other corporation that has a recruitment thread on here? Why buy them out when I could just go down there and do it my damn self?
Or an even better question
Why not just do what I would do in Eve Online - join their corporation with a different character and just take it down from the inside?
EDIT:
To expand on my argument: All this jack about "handpicked pros" and "skill" is all a bunch of non-sense.
Seriously, you guys go on about skill so much in this game that you're unwilling to accept basic factual mathematics.
You have 100 people, I have 1000 people. Sure, you might have more skill, but all I have to do is just tell my guys to run militia gear so we never lose anything and let you burn yourselves out - constantly sending in a fresh batch of troops every time. Day and night, day and night, European players, American Players, Aussie Players - it doesn't matter, it's a fresh wave -every single time-.
Why do you think nations fall in Eve Online? It's not because they were bested by "skill" it's because they were simply outnumbered by a larger portion of players who attacked on their down time. All I have to do is figure out when each and every one of you goes to work/sleep and boom - you've just lost everything because I conveniently have more contacts than you have people in your freshman year book.
Then there's inside jobs where I just toss one of your less loyal directors a billion isk to close the corporation down and then you're spending the next few days trying to figure out what the hell happened.
I could hire mercenaries to completely decimate you whenever my guys get burnt out on constantly harassing your "pros" and sip on a freaggin bottle of jack while they send me battle reports of how much damage they're causing you. |
Sin3 DeusNomine
Doomheim
142
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Posted - 2012.09.26 23:25:00 -
[50] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:Dante Brown wrote:Ladies,Ladies lets settle this on the battlefield. -Sigh- They're too busy hiding behind their words and baseline threats. Seriously, the minute this game goes live half of this forum is going to suddenly get a wake-up call that "evetards" are always going to ruin their day in some way, shape or form. Why fight when I have enough ISK to buy every other corporation that has a recruitment thread on here? Why buy them out when I could just go down there and do it my damn self? Or an even better question Why not just do what I would do in Eve Online - join their corporation with a different character and just take it down from the inside? EDIT: To expand on my argument: All this jack about "handpicked pros" and "skill" is all a bunch of non-sense. Seriously, you guys go on about skill so much in this game that you're unwilling to accept basic factual mathematics. You have 100 people, I have 1000 people. Sure, you might have more skill, but all I have to do is just tell my guys to run militia gear so we never lose anything and let you burn yourselves out - constantly sending in a fresh batch of troops every time. Day and night, day and night, European players, American Players, Aussie Players - it doesn't matter, it's a fresh wave -every single time-. Why do you think nations fall in Eve Online? It's not because they were bested by "skill" it's because they were simply outnumbered by a larger portion of players who attacked on their down time. All I have to do is figure out when each and every one of you goes to work/sleep and boom - you've just lost everything because I conveniently have more contacts than you have people in your freshman year book. Then there's inside jobs where I just toss one of your less loyal directors a billion isk to close the corporation down and then you're spending the next few days trying to figure out what the hell happened. I could hire mercenaries to completely decimate you whenever my guys get burnt out on constantly harassing your "pros" and sip on a freaggin bottle of jack while they send me battle reports of how much damage they're causing you. Ahh truely a wise man here. :)
Because ya i bet you will be able to field all 1,000 guys on a 16vs16 match. Oh and surely your going to be able to destroy our assests as we sleep. That are in a station or a base that is impossible to explode. Yes totally going to be possible. I am sure you will figure out how to do it because your a genius.
But gosh up your payment to 5 billion and send it to Sine DeusNomine in eve tonight and you will see how far that gets you on me closing down the corp.
Have fun hiring corps and wasting your money trying to kill us because we will be having fun making iskies off from the guys you send at us. :) We allways love a good noob pawnage. |
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Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.09.26 23:38:00 -
[51] - Quote
Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Dante Brown wrote:Ladies,Ladies lets settle this on the battlefield. -Sigh- They're too busy hiding behind their words and baseline threats. Seriously, the minute this game goes live half of this forum is going to suddenly get a wake-up call that "evetards" are always going to ruin their day in some way, shape or form. Why fight when I have enough ISK to buy every other corporation that has a recruitment thread on here? Why buy them out when I could just go down there and do it my damn self? Or an even better question Why not just do what I would do in Eve Online - join their corporation with a different character and just take it down from the inside? EDIT: To expand on my argument: All this jack about "handpicked pros" and "skill" is all a bunch of non-sense. Seriously, you guys go on about skill so much in this game that you're unwilling to accept basic factual mathematics. You have 100 people, I have 1000 people. Sure, you might have more skill, but all I have to do is just tell my guys to run militia gear so we never lose anything and let you burn yourselves out - constantly sending in a fresh batch of troops every time. Day and night, day and night, European players, American Players, Aussie Players - it doesn't matter, it's a fresh wave -every single time-. Why do you think nations fall in Eve Online? It's not because they were bested by "skill" it's because they were simply outnumbered by a larger portion of players who attacked on their down time. All I have to do is figure out when each and every one of you goes to work/sleep and boom - you've just lost everything because I conveniently have more contacts than you have people in your freshman year book. Then there's inside jobs where I just toss one of your less loyal directors a billion isk to close the corporation down and then you're spending the next few days trying to figure out what the hell happened. I could hire mercenaries to completely decimate you whenever my guys get burnt out on constantly harassing your "pros" and sip on a freaggin bottle of jack while they send me battle reports of how much damage they're causing you. Ahh truely a wise man here. :) Because ya i bet you will be able to field all 1,000 guys on a 16vs16 match. Oh and surely your going to be able to destroy our assests as we sleep. That are in a station or a base that is impossible to explode. Yes totally going to be possible. I am sure you will figure out how to do it because your a genius. But gosh up your payment to 5 billion and send it to Sine DeusNomine in eve tonight and you will see how far that gets you on me closing down the corp. Have fun hiring corps and wasting your money trying to kill us because we will be having fun making iskies off from the guys you send at us. :) We allways love a good noob pawnage.
You're so naive it's actually become amusing. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
248
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Posted - 2012.09.26 23:41:00 -
[52] - Quote
Paran Tadec wrote: I regularly make more than 50k when just shooting people in the face, dropping nano hives and fixing armor for people.
Sounds like you get that 50k + SP from multiple actions, not just a single farmed one. Consider that difference. |
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