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Zekain Kade
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Posted - 2012.09.22 15:59:00 -
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Please? It would be a nice change from all the team games we're forced to play.
It would give friends a chance to compete against one another and what not. The player count would have to be small though, probably around 12 players per FFA game. |
sendeth
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:02:00 -
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no |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:04:00 -
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I second this no |
Zekain Kade
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:07:00 -
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You people want more game modes, but when an idea for a game mode comes up that's not team related, you all scoff at it.
In the full game, it can just be something used as a practice set up for in corp competitions. Or it can go into the E sports section, there really is no reason not to have it.
it also gives players who want to lone wolf a place to play |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:09:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:You people want more game modes, but when an idea for a game mode comes up that's not team related, you all scoff at it.
In the full game, it can just be something used as a practice set up for in corp competitions. Or it can go into the E sports section, there really is no reason not to have it. How would it be explained in the new eden universe? And it wouldn't make good practice because you're not playing as a team like you will be in the actual match. |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:12:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:You people want more game modes, but when an idea for a game mode comes up that's not team related, you all scoff at it.
In the full game, it can just be something used as a practice set up for in corp competitions. Or it can go into the E sports section, there really is no reason not to have it. How would it be explained in the new eden universe? And it wouldn't make good practice because you're not playing as a team like you will be in the actual match. it's a competitive E sports game mode where Dust mercs go to see who has the best shot.
There, it has been explained. |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
131
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:16:00 -
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I wouldn't mind as long as vehicles (or at least tanks) aren't allowed. It's hard enough to get people who you're actually fighting with to pull out an AV fit, let alone people you're fighting against.
As for being explained away in the EVE universe, lore should never take precedence over gameplay. Imagine if MCCs could be destroyed before even making their way to the planet and any Dust mercs would be sht out of luck--it would be stupid. |
Xavier Hastings
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
243
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:18:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:You people want more game modes, but when an idea for a game mode comes up that's not team related, you all scoff at it.
In the full game, it can just be something used as a practice set up for in corp competitions. Or it can go into the E sports section, there really is no reason not to have it. How would it be explained in the new eden universe? And it wouldn't make good practice because you're not playing as a team like you will be in the actual match. it's a competitive E sports game mode where Dust mercs go to see who has the best shot. There, it has been explained. I was thinking along the lines of an Arena. |
Sodium Snake
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:19:00 -
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Absolutely not. This game shouldn't even have a TDM mode tbh. |
Zekain Kade
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:21:00 -
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Sodium Snake wrote:Absolutely not. This game shouldn't even have a TDM mode tbh. Yes, lets not give the games player based a healthy selection of game modes so that they all eventually get bored and leave.
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STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:29:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:You people want more game modes, but when an idea for a game mode comes up that's not team related, you all scoff at it.
In the full game, it can just be something used as a practice set up for in corp competitions. Or it can go into the E sports section, there really is no reason not to have it. How would it be explained in the new eden universe? And it wouldn't make good practice because you're not playing as a team like you will be in the actual match. it's a competitive E sports game mode where Dust mercs go to see who has the best shot. There, it has been explained.
Crappy explanation is crappy. This game isn't meant to have everyone soloing things |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
251
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:32:00 -
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This game is team based. so no. like sodium said i dont even think there should be a tdm. |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:33:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:You people want more game modes, but when an idea for a game mode comes up that's not team related, you all scoff at it.
In the full game, it can just be something used as a practice set up for in corp competitions. Or it can go into the E sports section, there really is no reason not to have it. How would it be explained in the new eden universe? And it wouldn't make good practice because you're not playing as a team like you will be in the actual match. it's a competitive E sports game mode where Dust mercs go to see who has the best shot. There, it has been explained. Crappy explanation is crappy. This game isn't meant to have everyone soloing things Like what the other guy said above me, not everything has to have an explanation.
Game play > Lore. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:35:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:You people want more game modes, but when an idea for a game mode comes up that's not team related, you all scoff at it.
In the full game, it can just be something used as a practice set up for in corp competitions. Or it can go into the E sports section, there really is no reason not to have it. How would it be explained in the new eden universe? And it wouldn't make good practice because you're not playing as a team like you will be in the actual match. it's a competitive E sports game mode where Dust mercs go to see who has the best shot. There, it has been explained. Crappy explanation is crappy. This game isn't meant to have everyone soloing things Like what the other guy said above me, not everything has to have an explanation. Game play > Lore.
That's why ccp makes explanations for nigh everything in eve, even this beta has an explanation |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:38:00 -
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The game modes are less important than uniformity with the EVE universe. I DO NOT support contrived game modes just for the sake of adding game modes.
Personally I don't like TDM but from a strategic standpoint, it would make sense. One Corp is attacking another corps military resources. TDM would work better as a assault game mode where there is an attacking team and a defending team. The objective would be for the attacking team to wipe out the defenders. The defenders would have a favorable defensive position and the attackers would have more clone reserves.
Helloooooo new thread. |
Gcember
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:44:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:Please? It would be a nice change from all the team games we're forced to play.
It would give friends a chance to compete against one another and what not. The player count would have to be small though, probably around 12 players per FFA game. That does not make sense, the point with this game is that the EVE players hires us DUST players to fight for control of planets, An EVE player wouldn-Št hire one singe merc to get in control of one planet would they? |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:47:00 -
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you guys are idiots. |
Goliath Raven
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
80
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:50:00 -
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Parson Atreides wrote:Imagine if MCCs could be destroyed before even making their way to the planet and any Dust mercs would be sht out of luck--it would be stupid.
Considering war barges are going to be flying mercs and their corps between battles, I actually would not be surprised in the least if MCC could be shot down before they reach the planet. And I think it could make for excellent gameplay in the war over the planets.
A battle breaks out over one of eve's many planets as an attacking force attempts to capture a planetary installation. Friendly and enemy ships are exchanging blows as the war barges start pouring in like D-day at Normandy. The defending force sends every unit they can spare to knock down as many war barges as possible before they make it to the planet, and defense installations on the ground begin firing at the approaching barges. The small group of defending frigates/destroyers make it in front of the descending defenseless war barges and open fire. Just as their about to blow up the first warbarge, the MCC's launch. Suddenly a dozen targets have spawned countless more. There's no stopping it now. The fleet radios down to the planet, "We have lost control of the situation. Prepare for the arrival of the invasion force."
This may seem kinda boring to a merc's perspective but it would make for some exciting moments in Eve! |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:50:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:you guys are idiots. Crying already? |
Zekain Kade
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Posted - 2012.09.22 17:01:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:you guys are idiots. Crying already? Players are going to eventually want something that's not SUPER SERIOUS CORP WARS. Or something that isn't team based. Players are eventually going to want something they can go to, and just relax and play. Players are going to want a FFA game mode at some point,m and keeping it from them will only drive them away.
"well fine, we don't need those players anyway"
You may not need them, But CCP does for a multitude of reasons.
1: a source of income 2: player base growth 3: player base happiness 4: Variety and so on, and so forth.
Just because you guy's don't want it, does not mean that the thousands of players who will eventually be flocking to this game wont want it. You're all being selfish, and that'll eventually kill this game.
Make everyone happy, give everyone their own little place to play, no everyone will want to take part in the corp battles, not everyone will want to play with teams. a large portion of the future play base will just want a place to veg.
Keeping things out of this game just because it isn't cannon will ruin it.
Goliath Raven wrote:Parson Atreides wrote:Imagine if MCCs could be destroyed before even making their way to the planet and any Dust mercs would be sht out of luck--it would be stupid. Considering war barges are going to be flying mercs and their corps between battles, I actually would not be surprised in the least if MCC could be shot down before they reach the planet. And I think it could make for excellent gameplay in the war over the planets. A battle breaks out over one of eve's many planets as an attacking force attempts to capture a planetary installation. Friendly and enemy ships are exchanging blows as the war barges start pouring in like D-day at Normandy. The defending force sends every unit they can spare to knock down as many war barges as possible before they make it to the planet, and defense installations on the ground begin firing at the approaching barges. The small group of defending frigates/destroyers make it in front of the descending defenseless war barges and open fire. Just as their about to blow up the first warbarge, the MCC's launch. Suddenly a dozen targets have spawned countless more. There's no stopping it now. The fleet radios down to the planet, "We have lost control of the situation. Prepare for the arrival of the invasion force." This may seem kinda boring to a merc's perspective but it would make for some exciting moments in Eve! EVE players wont be able to destroy war barges, or any of the MCC's that fly down to planets.
Why?
Because that would ruin the game. |
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Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
131
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Posted - 2012.09.22 17:11:00 -
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Goliath Raven wrote:Parson Atreides wrote:Imagine if MCCs could be destroyed before even making their way to the planet and any Dust mercs would be sht out of luck--it would be stupid. Considering war barges are going to be flying mercs and their corps between battles, I actually would not be surprised in the least if MCC could be shot down before they reach the planet. And I think it could make for excellent gameplay in the war over the planets. A battle breaks out over one of eve's many planets as an attacking force attempts to capture a planetary installation. Friendly and enemy ships are exchanging blows as the war barges start pouring in like D-day at Normandy. The defending force sends every unit they can spare to knock down as many war barges as possible before they make it to the planet, and defense installations on the ground begin firing at the approaching barges. The small group of defending frigates/destroyers make it in front of the descending defenseless war barges and open fire. Just as their about to blow up the first warbarge, the MCC's launch. Suddenly a dozen targets have spawned countless more. There's no stopping it now. The fleet radios down to the planet, "We have lost control of the situation. Prepare for the arrival of the invasion force." This may seem kinda boring to a merc's perspective but it would make for some exciting moments in Eve!
If I learned I wouldn't be able to participate in a match because of something in the game that not only I had no control over, but none of the other people playing it did either, then I wouldn't want to play this anymore. EVE players need to realize this isn't just an expansion to EVE online. It's a stand-alone (in the sense that it has its own mechanics, gameplay, etc) game with a new player-base. CCP has said many times in many ways they want to open the EVE universe to a wider audience. We're joining your universe, but that doesn't mean we need to bow to game-breaking limitations just for a minor increase in enjoyment for EVE players.
Also, I think either MCCs or Warbarges (whatever the difference is) are going to cost hundreds of millions of ISK. You wouldn't have dozens of them for one match. Plus, for people so interested in lore, you couldn't explain how the mercs would win the planet only by defeating one MCC if there were, in fact, dozens. |
Gregor stormwalker
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3
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Posted - 2012.09.22 17:13:00 -
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I think ccp did talk about putting in some e-sports type thing from what i remember the idea would be area fight they talked about 1v1 fight where eve and dust players could placse bets on who would win and maybe even watch the fight but i am sure a FFA battle royal would work to, but i would say this is some way off |
Abner Kalen
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
100
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Posted - 2012.09.22 17:20:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:You people want more game modes, but when an idea for a game mode comes up that's not team related, you all scoff at it.
In the full game, it can just be something used as a practice set up for in corp competitions. Or it can go into the E sports section, there really is no reason not to have it. How would it be explained in the new eden universe? And it wouldn't make good practice because you're not playing as a team like you will be in the actual match.
I would like to see an exploration map with rogue drones and every man for himself. One thing that would be cool is if the drones were too powerful to take out by yourself, so teaming up with others is necessary. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.09.22 17:20:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:you guys are idiots. Crying already? Players are going to eventually want something that's not SUPER SERIOUS CORP WARS. Or something that isn't team based. Players are eventually going to want something they can go to, and just relax and play. Players are going to want a FFA game mode at some point,m and keeping it from them will only drive them away. "well fine, we don't need those players anyway" You may not need them, But CCP does for a multitude of reasons. 1: a source of income 2: player base growth 3: player base happiness 4: Variety and so on, and so forth. Just because you guy's don't want it, does not mean that the thousands of players who will eventually be flocking to this game wont want it. You're all being selfish, and that'll eventually kill this game. Make everyone happy, give everyone their own little place to play, no everyone will want to take part in the corp battles, not everyone will want to play with teams. a large portion of the future play base will just want a place to veg. Keeping things out of this game just because it isn't cannon will ruin it. Goliath Raven wrote:Parson Atreides wrote:Imagine if MCCs could be destroyed before even making their way to the planet and any Dust mercs would be sht out of luck--it would be stupid. Considering war barges are going to be flying mercs and their corps between battles, I actually would not be surprised in the least if MCC could be shot down before they reach the planet. And I think it could make for excellent gameplay in the war over the planets. A battle breaks out over one of eve's many planets as an attacking force attempts to capture a planetary installation. Friendly and enemy ships are exchanging blows as the war barges start pouring in like D-day at Normandy. The defending force sends every unit they can spare to knock down as many war barges as possible before they make it to the planet, and defense installations on the ground begin firing at the approaching barges. The small group of defending frigates/destroyers make it in front of the descending defenseless war barges and open fire. Just as their about to blow up the first warbarge, the MCC's launch. Suddenly a dozen targets have spawned countless more. There's no stopping it now. The fleet radios down to the planet, "We have lost control of the situation. Prepare for the arrival of the invasion force." This may seem kinda boring to a merc's perspective but it would make for some exciting moments in Eve! EVE players wont be able to destroy war barges, or any of the MCC's that fly down to planets. Why? Because that would ruin the game.
Tl skipped most but the relax and just play is the point of team deathmatch
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Abner Kalen
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
100
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Posted - 2012.09.22 17:20:00 -
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DayZ. |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2012.09.22 17:22:00 -
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Yea... you're ********. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2048
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Posted - 2012.09.22 17:23:00 -
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Stuff like this will come when we get the arena type game modes (the games CCP was talking about EVE and Dust players having the ability to place down bets and such) |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.09.22 17:33:00 -
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The arenas explain modes like deathmatch. When CCP said arena with spectators/betting, I thought unreal tournament, every mode from that game would fit into arena. Instead of not allowing vehicles, arena could have no vehicle, mixed, and all vehicle variants, simple way to triple number of modes.
Free for all type match should hide player names till kill feed, this prevents 1/2 dozen corp, members joining with a secret team on custom comm channel to play as team vs solo people. Still could be done, but harder without seeing names.
faction war and null sec battles shouldn't have deathmatch. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2048
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Posted - 2012.09.22 17:41:00 -
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Ten-Sidhe wrote:The arenas explain modes like deathmatch. When CCP said arena with spectators/betting, I thought unreal tournament, every mode from that game would fit into arena. Instead of not allowing vehicles, arena could have no vehicle, mixed, and all vehicle variants, simple way to triple number of modes.
Free for all type match should hide player names till kill feed, this prevents 1/2 dozen corp, members joining with a secret team on custom comm channel to play as team vs solo people. Still could be done, but harder without seeing names.
faction war and null sec battles shouldn't have deathmatch. I like it |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.09.22 17:43:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:Yea... you're ********. And now you're whining more |
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Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
131
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Posted - 2012.09.22 17:46:00 -
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You'd think he was asking for a mode where you play as a Klingon that shoots Ewoks out of his gun for all the animosity directed at this idea. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1904
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Posted - 2012.09.22 17:49:00 -
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CCP has already stated that the Arena is going to be like New Edens football.
This and at least a few other game modes would fit just fine in that explanation. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.09.22 17:53:00 -
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Parson Atreides wrote:You'd think he was asking for a mode where you play as a Klingon that shoots Ewoks out of his gun for all the animosity directed at this idea.
Lol i only got one of the references but +1 |
Mobius Kaethis
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
306
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Posted - 2012.09.22 18:02:00 -
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CCP has already said there will be FFA style games in the full game. This will happen in arenas so that players (EVE and DUST alike) can bet on the winners. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.09.22 18:05:00 -
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Even TDM is pretty unpopular. I'm not surprised there is so much dislike for this idea. The idea of playing Ambush with 2x the chance of spawning in front of an enemy really doesn't sound appealing.
Mobius Kaethis wrote:CCP has already said there will be FFA style games in the full game. This will happen in arenas so that players (EVE and DUST alike) can bet on the winners.
As some special kind of game mode where you buy into it and there's betting involved with the winner getting a prize, that I don't think would be too bad at all. But as just Ambush but even more random and chaotic, that would be pretty unpopular. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2012.09.22 19:25:00 -
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I heard they will be bringing that mode when it release when they bring in arena battles |
Relyt R
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.09.22 19:25:00 -
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Hunger games style? that would be kind of awesome |
Sodium Snake
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2012.09.22 19:34:00 -
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FFA wouldn't work in the first place; you'd just be wasting ISK killing people for no reason, and someone with proto gear could just come in and kill everyone else. Unless they have some sort of filter in place...
I'm all for more game modes, but not killing arenas. They can make as many team-based objective modes as they want, I won't complain. But FFA and TDM? No thanks. Actually the main reason I've taken a break form DUST is because every time I used Instant Battle it was TDM garbage, and they disabled the server browser so I couldn't play skirmish... |
sendeth
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
45
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Posted - 2012.09.23 02:52:00 -
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let me reiterate...... no. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2048
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Posted - 2012.09.23 02:59:00 -
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sendeth wrote:let me reiterate...... no. it will be in, your reiterations are futile
its only a matter of time |
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Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1594
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Posted - 2012.09.23 03:06:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:You people want more game modes, but when an idea for a game mode comes up that's not team related, you all scoff at it.
In the full game, it can just be something used as a practice set up for in corp competitions. Or it can go into the E sports section, there really is no reason not to have it. How would it be explained in the new eden universe? And it wouldn't make good practice because you're not playing as a team like you will be in the actual match.
In Eve Online, there are players who run NPC missions with a solo-tanked Caldari Navy Issue Raven. It's one of the main things to do in New Eden and it's not even team based. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.09.23 03:21:00 -
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Go solo a level for mission with that ship and see what i mean, do it with out leaving the battle space |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
1005
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Posted - 2012.09.23 04:18:00 -
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one way of potentially doing this would be if CCP implemented the much desired training rooms for corp use. if you could totally give control to the corps about setup and rules inside the room you could potentially do anything.
Another way to achieve this would be to (when its implemented) go on a null sec system in a match (where FF is on) and just go wild. admitidly though the people on the same team would see each other. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.09.23 04:22:00 -
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Would make sense in the Gladiator Arena (e-sports). Fighting for glory in from on EVE and Dust spectators. Gambling taking place. |
Cfurr Kold
3
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Posted - 2012.09.23 05:35:00 -
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They would def have to fix the respawn issue. I hate respawning in front of reds. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.09.23 05:42:00 -
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Racing e-sports could be in arena too, death race with several sagaris would be quite interesting to watch.
E-sports arena could have limited and unlimited matches, militia matches will probably be the most popular do to rapid isk loss of death match modes. It would probably be many times the number of deaths a regular game would have, with fewer people getting isk at end, since only a few win/place.
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Constable Jones
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2012.09.23 08:04:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:You people want more game modes, but when an idea for a game mode comes up that's not team related, you all scoff at it.
In the full game, it can just be something used as a practice set up for in corp competitions. Or it can go into the E sports section, there really is no reason not to have it. How would it be explained in the new eden universe? And it wouldn't make good practice because you're not playing as a team like you will be in the actual match. it's a competitive E sports game mode where Dust mercs go to see who has the best shot. There, it has been explained.
Survival will take care of that. |
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