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fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.22 11:42:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFnSvniTaXY&feature=related
Correct section now , looks a hell of a lot better than the current AR sight we have now |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.09.22 11:50:00 -
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It's because the current sights we have now are attached camera modules which link to our helmets. |
Templar Two
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.09.22 11:56:00 -
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Lore used to justify cheapness and poor design choices, like the pathetic ADS we have, is sad.
Really lore should be used to surprise and and as an excuse to make fantastic, even unbelievable, things not make the game look uninspired, cheap and shallow.
Dust is a FPS but when you use ADS it's looks like a on-rail shooters like Time Crisis where the gun is nowhere to be seen.
Not even Doom 1 did so poorly. |
Kelshaw Xu
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
65
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Posted - 2012.09.22 12:09:00 -
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/signed. 0:31 in that video is the sight i want. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.22 12:26:00 -
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I really like having the open sights. Why u want 2 see less ?
Edit: the dots massive tho I wouldnt mind being able to select dot,small dot, teeny weeny dot, Chevron etc etc |
Beast Beastlington
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
237
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Posted - 2012.09.22 12:27:00 -
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Yup, I'll take that a million times over what we have now.
The current ADS view is awful. |
Jin J'Rayle
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2012.09.22 12:29:00 -
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fenrir storm wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFnSvniTaXY&feature=related
Wrong section I know but looks a hell of a lot better than the current AR sight we have now
While we're at it. If I'm not in a gunner position, I want to be able to shoot my hand weapon from a dropship just like in the video.
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.09.22 12:29:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:I really like having the open sights. Why u want 2 see less ?
Edit: the dots massive tho I wouldnt mind being able to select dot,small dot, teeny weeny dot, Chevron etc etc
same. i actually like the sights we have now
ppl are into cosmetics too much
i hope with the weapon customization mentioned that we will be able to swap scopes so everyone can be happy
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Beast Beastlington
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
237
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Posted - 2012.09.22 12:34:00 -
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The open view breaks the immersion and takes from the personality of the weapon for me.
I find the transition from on view to the other jarring and I think it makes aiming a lot more difficult. Also, the poor frame-rate doesn't help much. |
Templar Two
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.09.22 12:38:00 -
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^^^
Exactly.
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.09.22 12:42:00 -
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well like i said i hope they provide options and dont force 1 sight on ppl
cuz tbqh i like this sight but i know ill also use the RDS if we do get it as well |
Beast Beastlington
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
237
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Posted - 2012.09.22 12:43:00 -
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Also, it's not a cosmetic thing. It's an immersion thing.
I think it's much harder to simulate the weapon recoil in this view too. I'd feel like I'm fighting the camera view rather than mastering the weapon.
95% of FPS's have the weapon in view whilst aiming down the sights. Why do you think that is? |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.09.22 12:57:00 -
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Beast Beastlington wrote:95% of FPS's have the weapon in view whilst aiming down the sights. Why do you think that is?
Cause 95% of FPS's don't use gun-mounted cameras to aim.
Never had any issues with the ADS. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.09.22 13:01:00 -
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Beast Beastlington wrote:Also, it's not a cosmetic thing. It's an immersion thing.
I think it's much harder to simulate the weapon recoil in this view too. I'd feel like I'm fighting the camera view rather than mastering the weapon.
95% of FPS's have the weapon in view whilst aiming down the sights. Why do you think that is?
True in real life when I aim down my rifle it dosn't dissapear |
Tbone3222
Doomheim
5
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Posted - 2012.09.22 13:30:00 -
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Totally off topic, but I love that video... It always makes me giddy for full release :) |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.09.22 13:30:00 -
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fenrir storm wrote:True in real life when I aim down my rifle it dosn't dissapear
It does if you're using a sight with any kind of magnification. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.09.22 13:41:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:fenrir storm wrote:True in real life when I aim down my rifle it dosn't dissapear It does if you're using a sight with any kind of magnification.
Still there with my old 2.5x red dot |
Ydubbs81 RND
48
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Posted - 2012.09.22 13:42:00 -
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Adding my 2 cents....the sights in the video is preferred!!!
Have always disliked the sights we use now. At least allow us to purchase different sights in the marketplace |
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
781
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Posted - 2012.09.22 13:56:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:Lore used to justify cheapness and poor design choices, like the pathetic ADS we have, is sad.
Really lore should be used to surprise and and as an excuse to make fantastic, even unbelievable, things not make the game look uninspired, cheap and shallow.
Dust is a FPS but when you use ADS it's looks like a on-rail shooters like Time Crisis where the gun is nowhere to be seen.
Not even Doom 1 did so poorly.
you get all of my likes for the day. |
Templar Two
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.09.22 14:02:00 -
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I will leave this here. |
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Raynor Ragna
266
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Posted - 2012.09.22 14:04:00 -
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why do people care what their sights look like. The one we have is far more functional than the one in the video. I really don't understand people. |
Ydubbs81 RND
48
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Posted - 2012.09.22 14:11:00 -
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Raynor Ragna wrote:why do people care what their sights look like. The one we have is far more functional than the one in the video. I really don't understand people.
The better question is why do you seem so disturbed that people prefer one sight over another. It is a matter of preference. CCP can allow the opportunity to purchase different sights from the marketplace.
Which makes sense because not everyone is crazy about what we have now.....hence, this thread |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.22 14:38:00 -
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Actually the sight in the video didnt distort the edges of your screen. This whole "camera drone" thing is BS. I can use the current scope. But it's not a scope... There are no range markers ect. Tbh full scope customisation would be awesome.
Set zoom, set crosshairs, set peripheral blur, ect. |
Gcember
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.09.22 14:49:00 -
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The reload animation that is on that video is also much better than the one we have on our current AR! |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.09.22 15:11:00 -
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Raynor Ragna wrote:why do people care what their sights look like. The one we have is far more functional than the one in the video. I really don't understand people.
Because if you like what have you tend to play better, if you like the current one good I just prefer a more traditional type instead of the mini tv pop up we get now |
Swufy Gnomenclatur
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:00:00 -
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Even the sniper rifles scope could be changed. We have a dot ridicule now, but the dot is big enough that it completely covers our target when they're far enough away. If I could choose, I'd pick the cross from the video so that I could center the target and know I'm going to hit him instead of missing because his head was actually in the corner of the dot, not the center.
I think the current system is fine, but there needs to be a crosshair preference in the options or sold on the marketplace, so everyone can use what makes them most comfortable. A lot of FPSs offer this in their option menu and it's a good idea. |
carl von oppenheimer
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:08:00 -
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What I would expect from a futuristic sights is a target acquisition system that outlines my targets with red/white lines and a "blip, blip" sound when my dots hits the target also bigger zoom would be a bonus.
This is a 240th century and not 25th |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:11:00 -
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that is one expensive drop suit.... 300k.... wow. |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:18:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:Lore used to justify cheapness and poor design choices, like the pathetic ADS we have, is sad.
Really lore should be used to surprise and and as an excuse to make fantastic, even unbelievable, things not make the game look uninspired, cheap and shallow.
Dust is a FPS but when you use ADS it's looks like a on-rail shooters like Time Crisis where the gun is nowhere to be seen.
Not even Doom 1 did so poorly.
QFT.
This will be done frequently by CCP at launch. There is no way they can fix everything so they will just make up lore to offset poor design choices. Hopefully it will change in the future. |
Sodium Snake
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2012.09.22 16:18:00 -
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The AR we have now is Gallente crap, so when we get the other faction's weapons, I would presume that:
Caldari AR will have a sight like the video in the OP or like this.
Gallente AR has the helmet cam we have now.
Amarr AR would be like the Scrambler Pistol sight
Minmitar AR would have the plastic sight with the dot on it like the SMG.
This is just pure speculation, except for the MK25 Gauss Rifle that's in that video; I'm pretty sure that will be in the game. |
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Templar Two
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.09.22 18:18:00 -
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Super Cargo
Cockpit view is another missing thing, another design choice, justified by terrible lore.
I asked for it personally but CCP nerved answered me not showed interest and frankly I have not the heart to chase them all the time begging for an answer. |
DON RODIE II
Deep Space Republic
168
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Posted - 2012.09.22 19:31:00 -
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I been saying they should add more sights or gun models for the longest. I think some people think this game suck based on the zoom in sights. They should show us another assualt/sniper rifle. I knew most people would't like the sights they currently got. |
Abner Kalen
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
100
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Posted - 2012.09.22 19:39:00 -
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ADS? |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.09.22 19:54:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:that is one expensive drop suit.... 300k.... wow.
Hah! I thought the exact same thing! |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
358
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Posted - 2012.09.22 20:03:00 -
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Btw, Fenrir, i added you to my contacts. If i see you on, ill send a message! |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
33
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Posted - 2012.09.22 20:40:00 -
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I still would like to see an AR with iron sights.. |
Wrinkledwood
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.22 21:14:00 -
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Well, I saw true ADS in this TGS video. Probably coming next build.
http://youtu.be/4g_XwvV7G0I?t=2m10s |
Ydubbs81 RND
48
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Posted - 2012.09.22 22:57:00 -
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Ahhh, didn't know there was a difference in sights/guns between the races. Ok, well, that will definitely influence my decision |
Beast Beastlington
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
237
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Posted - 2012.09.22 23:16:00 -
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That's the same ADS as the current SMG. It definitely plays alot better this way, shame the SMG is pretty unusable though as most encounters occur from mid to long range.
It's also a pretty crappy design, looks like a little window pane pops up when you aim :D |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.09.23 11:09:00 -
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Rayan Storm wrote:Btw, Fenrir, i added you to my contacts. If i see you on, ill send a message!
Ok mate see you in game  |
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Shogen Shu
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2012.09.23 11:16:00 -
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Kelshaw Xu wrote:/signed. 0:31 in that video is the sight i want.
/signed
mobilize your friends, and let them signed this. I personaly hate the actual view, so i dont use the gun anymore. |
Mosley Harmless
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2012.09.23 14:04:00 -
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+1 |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
33
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Posted - 2012.09.23 19:36:00 -
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Beast Beastlington wrote:That's the same ADS as the current SMG. It definitely plays alot better this way, shame the SMG is pretty unusable though as most encounters occur from mid to long range. It's also a pretty crappy design, looks like a little window pane pops up when you aim :D
The SMG is crap close up too(Unless you spend AUR on them.). Only reason I use it is I'm better with it then the scrambler pistol. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.09.23 20:18:00 -
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Recon the smg should just have iron sights like the shot gun not as if you can use it at any range greater than spitting distance,
on the whole most sights need to be redone |
Guydon Antllies
HoloSec Armaments and Security
51
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Posted - 2012.09.23 20:23:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:Lore used to justify cheapness and poor design choices, like the pathetic ADS we have, is sad.
Really lore should be used to surprise and and as an excuse to make fantastic, even unbelievable, things not make the game look uninspired, cheap and shallow.
Dust is a FPS but when you use ADS it's looks like a on-rail shooters like Time Crisis where the gun is nowhere to be seen.
Not even Doom 1 did so poorly.
i concur doctor |
Typo Name
78
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Posted - 2012.09.24 01:38:00 -
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There should be a choice, I personally like the current ADS better. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.09.24 08:29:00 -
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Back on the front page till we get a respones |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.09.24 10:45:00 -
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/signed
I got used to the current AR ADS but i like this one ten times more.
When i did an analyze of the E3 vids when they got out, it was one of the main GOOD points i noted. Change in ADS. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.09.24 12:15:00 -
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Typo Name wrote:There should be a choice, I personally like the current ADS better.
I agree about the choice, I just prefer the other and am stuck with useing that bloody pop up tv screen we have now  |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.09.24 12:49:00 -
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Beast Beastlington wrote:That's the same ADS as the current SMG. It definitely plays alot better this way, shame the SMG is pretty unusable though as most encounters occur from mid to long range.
It's also a pretty crappy design, looks like a little window pane pops up when you aim :D
The SMG is awesome.
LoL at mid/long-range, it's almost as if the sniper rifle isn't suitable for short-range combat. |
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Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.24 15:18:00 -
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I am fine with the current set up. The ADS or scope is not a big deal to me. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.09.25 11:16:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:I am fine with the current set up. The ADS or scope is not a big deal to me.
Maybe mate but a few of us just cant get along with it. |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.09.25 13:14:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:I really like having the open sights. Why u want 2 see less ?
Edit: the dots massive tho I wouldnt mind being able to select dot,small dot, teeny weeny dot, Chevron etc etc
+1 to see more |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.09.25 13:22:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Beast Beastlington wrote:95% of FPS's have the weapon in view whilst aiming down the sights. Why do you think that is? Cause 95% of FPS's don't use gun-mounted cameras to aim. Never had any issues with the ADS.
too slow cant stand it. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.09.27 11:54:00 -
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Still no response even if it's a simple no. |
Ydubbs81 RND
48
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Posted - 2012.10.01 03:53:00 -
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Bump because I really want to be able to purchase those sights. DUST customization is second to none compared to other fps...yet we only have one option for sights?? And I haven't heard or read anything that says they will be offered for release. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
675
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Posted - 2012.10.01 05:08:00 -
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fenrir storm wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFnSvniTaXY&feature=related
Correct section now , looks a hell of a lot better than the current AR sight we have now
Ahh the reflex scope! Yup...gotta love those. But also notice that the AR with reflex scope is a completely different model to what's in game right now, it looks like caldari to me, but correct me if im wrong anyone. When we go full launch each weapon class will be available for all races, so we will see that nice scope at some point. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.10.01 17:47:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:fenrir storm wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFnSvniTaXY&feature=related
Correct section now , looks a hell of a lot better than the current AR sight we have now Ahh the reflex scope! Yup...gotta love those. But also notice that the AR with reflex scope is a completely different model to what's in game right now, it looks like caldari to me, but correct me if im wrong anyone. When we go full launch each weapon class will be available for all races, so we will see that nice scope at some point.
Not got a clue about each races stuff tbh except minmatar stuff |
Corban Lahnder
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2012.10.01 18:08:00 -
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In build one they had ADS for the basic variant of the assault rifle. Then they took it out completely in build two and the current one. Maybe they'll bring it back in codex who knows.
I would like to see some ADS for the assault rifles once again. |
Abner Kalen
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
100
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Posted - 2012.10.01 21:45:00 -
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Corban Lahnder wrote:In build one they had ADS for the basic variant of the assault rifle. Then they took it out completely in build two and the current one. Maybe they'll bring it back in codex who knows.
I would like to see some ADS for the assault rifles once again.
What is ADS? |
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tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
675
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Posted - 2012.10.02 00:13:00 -
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Abner Kalen wrote:Corban Lahnder wrote:In build one they had ADS for the basic variant of the assault rifle. Then they took it out completely in build two and the current one. Maybe they'll bring it back in codex who knows.
I would like to see some ADS for the assault rifles once again. What is ADS?
Aim Down Sight |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.10.17 08:38:00 -
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Just a bump because we need different sights and I haven't heard anything of giving us new sights |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax.
222
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Posted - 2012.12.10 16:37:00 -
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Actually in a video they did in November here They use the same sight, but this time you see gun while at it. |
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