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APX147
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:15:00 -
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This game needs more balance for Solo play. Walking around with other players all day long picking up pieces will not cut it for very long. So many gamers out there who are not team players. This group of gamers is being overlooked in DUST art the moment. |

Gauder Berwyck
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
217
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:17:00 -
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APX147 wrote:This game needs more balance for Solo play. Walking around with other players all day long picking up pieces will not cut it for very long. So many gamers out there who are not team players. This group of gamers is being overlooked in DUST art the moment.
As well they should. |

RankRancid
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
51
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:18:00 -
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APX147 wrote:This game needs more balance for Solo play. Walking around with other players all day long picking up pieces will not cut it for very long. So many gamers out there who are not team players. This group of gamers is being overlooked in DUST art the moment.
Become a lone wolf.
You will have to learn to play with the puppies before you expect to run with the wolves. |

APX147
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:21:00 -
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RankRancid wrote:APX147 wrote:This game needs more balance for Solo play. Walking around with other players all day long picking up pieces will not cut it for very long. So many gamers out there who are not team players. This group of gamers is being overlooked in DUST art the moment. Become a lone wolf. You will have to learn to play with the puppies before you expect to run with the wolves. What a f**k are you talking about? |

Dzark Kill
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:24:00 -
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APX147 wrote:RankRancid wrote:APX147 wrote:This game needs more balance for Solo play. Walking around with other players all day long picking up pieces will not cut it for very long. So many gamers out there who are not team players. This group of gamers is being overlooked in DUST art the moment. Become a lone wolf. You will have to learn to play with the puppies before you expect to run with the wolves. What a f**k are you talking about?
Yeah there should be more 1 man teams in the premiership and the FA should introduce rules to make it easie for those 1 man teams. It is after all a TEAM game..... |

APX147
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:26:00 -
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Dzark Kill wrote:APX147 wrote:RankRancid wrote:APX147 wrote:This game needs more balance for Solo play. Walking around with other players all day long picking up pieces will not cut it for very long. So many gamers out there who are not team players. This group of gamers is being overlooked in DUST art the moment. Become a lone wolf. You will have to learn to play with the puppies before you expect to run with the wolves. What a f**k are you talking about? Yeah there should be more 1 man teams in the premiership and the FA should introduce rules to make it easie for those 1 man teams. It is after all a TEAM game.....  We are playing a Beta. Our job is to point out things we find wrong in this game. Leaving out a big number of gamers means less people playing the game. This also means less money CCP.
Why are you guys here anyway if you have nothing to say? How old are you? |

RankRancid
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
51
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:29:00 -
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APX147 wrote:RankRancid wrote:APX147 wrote:This game needs more balance for Solo play. Walking around with other players all day long picking up pieces will not cut it for very long. So many gamers out there who are not team players. This group of gamers is being overlooked in DUST art the moment. Become a lone wolf. You will have to learn to play with the puppies before you expect to run with the wolves. What a f**k are you talking about?
Nevermind.
Never thought i would ever say these words.
GG and that's not the good game version.
Retards |

Dzark Kill
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:31:00 -
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APX147 wrote: We are playing a Beta. Our job is to point out things we find wrong in this game. Leaving out a big number of gamers means less people playing the game. This also means less money CCP.
Why are you guys here anyway if you have nothing to say? How old are you?
Hello CCP, im Beta testing your MMOFPS, I notice there is too much MMO flying around in the mechanic. Please can you go back to the drawing board and make the game more friendly to Solo players. It is after all a MMO....
Im bbored and in work and enjoy lol'ing at strange requests...
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APX147
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:39:00 -
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Dzark Kill wrote:APX147 wrote: We are playing a Beta. Our job is to point out things we find wrong in this game. Leaving out a big number of gamers means less people playing the game. This also means less money CCP.
Why are you guys here anyway if you have nothing to say? How old are you?
Hello CCP, im Beta testing your MMOFPS, I notice there is too much MMO flying around in the mechanic. Please can you go back to the drawing board and make the game more friendly to Solo players. It is after all a MMO....  Im bbored and in work and enjoy lol'ing at strange requests... You-¦re useless dude. A child in the wrong forum. Now go somewhere and grow up kid.
So is this what you guys want? Walk around in circles with other gamers looking for alone players to shoot down 5 against one? Same group og guys perhaps that got upset because they-¦re tanks were not indestructible anymore? Why are there so many kids out there afraid of fair competition? |

RankRancid
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
51
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:39:00 -
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Dzark Kill wrote:APX147 wrote: We are playing a Beta. Our job is to point out things we find wrong in this game. Leaving out a big number of gamers means less people playing the game. This also means less money CCP.
Why are you guys here anyway if you have nothing to say? How old are you?
Hello CCP, im Beta testing your MMOFPS, I notice there is too much MMO flying around in the mechanic. Please can you go back to the drawing board and make the game more friendly to Solo players. It is after all a MMO....  Im bbored and in work and enjoy lol'ing at strange requests...
It is even sadder that they think you can't do solo play. As if there is some mechanic stopping them.
Well there is...their skill level is too crap.
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APX147
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:41:00 -
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RankRancid wrote:Dzark Kill wrote:APX147 wrote: We are playing a Beta. Our job is to point out things we find wrong in this game. Leaving out a big number of gamers means less people playing the game. This also means less money CCP.
Why are you guys here anyway if you have nothing to say? How old are you?
Hello CCP, im Beta testing your MMOFPS, I notice there is too much MMO flying around in the mechanic. Please can you go back to the drawing board and make the game more friendly to Solo players. It is after all a MMO....  Im bbored and in work and enjoy lol'ing at strange requests... It is even sadder that they think you can't do solo play. As if there is some mechanic stopping them. Well there is...their skill level is too crap. Who are they? |

RankRancid
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
51
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:45:00 -
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APX147 wrote:RankRancid wrote:Dzark Kill wrote:APX147 wrote: We are playing a Beta. Our job is to point out things we find wrong in this game. Leaving out a big number of gamers means less people playing the game. This also means less money CCP.
Why are you guys here anyway if you have nothing to say? How old are you?
Hello CCP, im Beta testing your MMOFPS, I notice there is too much MMO flying around in the mechanic. Please can you go back to the drawing board and make the game more friendly to Solo players. It is after all a MMO....  Im bbored and in work and enjoy lol'ing at strange requests... It is even sadder that they think you can't do solo play. As if there is some mechanic stopping them. Well there is...their skill level is too crap. Who are they?
You and who ever else fails at lonewolfing.
Must i draw you a picture?
You are the guy saying solo play is impossible or even hard lol.
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:47:00 -
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Instead of making it easier to lone wolf, CCP just need to make sure ot's super easy to squad up with PSN friends. That's a far better solution. Btw solo play is alright from where I'm standing (atop a mountain of dead clone) |

Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:47:00 -
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Solo play ? You can do it. But it will be more difficult than playing as a team. On the other hand, playing as a team means other difficulties like dealing with other people, being willing to make sacrifices for the greater good etc..
Now, you're talking regarding to the beta. But do you actually know where this game is headed ? Do you think it should be possible for an invidividual to conquer planets? No, it will be a team effort and that's a good thing.
In fact, what you're saying makes no sense at all. What would you suggest exactly ? |

APX147
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:54:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Solo play ? You can do it. But it will be more difficult than playing as a team. On the other hand, playing as a team means other difficulties like dealing with other people, being willing to make sacrifices for the greater good etc..
Now, you're talking regarding to the beta. But do you actually know where this game is headed ? Do you think it should be possible for an invidividual to conquer planets? No, it will be a team effort and that's a good thing.
In fact, what you're saying makes no sense at all. What would you suggest exactly ? I-¦m not sure how to balance this but it gets a bit old to team up in one spot and shot down people in less numbers who are respawning all over the place to pick up points.
Also.
There are so many awesome lone wolfs in other shooters. It-¦s a specific kind of game style and a popular one too. I don-¦t wanna lose this group of players from Dust. I don-¦t want to see/play a one minded game. |

APX147
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:57:00 -
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Bare in mind that this could all change once/if we get more detailed maps with more buildings and so on.. Now it-¦s (more or less) all open space. |

Dzark Kill
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.09.21 10:15:00 -
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APX147 wrote: You-¦re useless dude. A child in the wrong forum. Now go somewhere and grow up kid.
So is this what you guys want? Walk around in circles with other gamers looking for alone players to shoot down 5 against one? Same group og guys perhaps that got upset because they-¦re tanks were not indestructible anymore? Why are there so many kids out there afraid of fair competition?
Its general discussion, and i'm generalising your request and responding with my own opinions, i do appear to have got the correct forum. On the other hand your op seems to fit more into the Feedback/Request section....
What "we" want is kind of irrelevant this is CCP's game and vision, it is designed to fit in with Eve, to be a team based shooter over the control of planets nothing in the design stikes me as solo orientated.
You can lone wolf, some of my higher K/D games come from games when im lone wolfing agains the "blob". Its easy walk around the back of where they are targeting your friendlys, take a few out with headshots from behind, and run to a safe location while your red dot dissapears from the radar, then rinse and repeat.
The whole point isn't for 16 players to squad up and pick off lonewolves (which is kind of what your asking for), the point is 16 mercs duke it out with 16 mercs. That sounds fair to me. Competition isnt a lonewolf, competition is fairly matched entities fighting each other and unlike alot of players i stay around and fight against overwelming odds rather than looking for the quit match button and then whining on the forum that a solo player cannot compete with a group of 16... |

Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.09.21 10:19:00 -
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Very easy to go solo right now, you just have to be aware of the groups of enemies around you and engage them in an intelligent manner. Hit and run is a very effective way for a solo player to deal with the more organized groups, so...I'm not really seeing the issue here? |

Timothy Reaper
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
321
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Posted - 2012.09.21 10:35:00 -
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APX147 wrote:This game needs more balance for Solo play. Walking around with other players all day long picking up pieces will not cut it for very long. So many gamers out there who are not team players. This group of gamers is being overlooked in DUST art the moment. And why can't I play football with just one person? Why do I have to find a bunch of other people when all I want to do is play that game? |

Tenchu-13
What The French
76
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Posted - 2012.09.21 10:50:00 -
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Lonewolfing is quite possible in this game, you just have to choose the right class/playstyle to do so. (although is can be done with every class)
Go sniper / sniperhunting (either in sniperclass or another) ... jobs best done solo. If not go all out rambo, grab that assaultgun and CHAAAARGE...
No serious, I don't see why you couldn't go solo in this game, been dong so for weeks and works quite well. You just have to 'plan' a little better then when your running around with 3 squatmates and thus more firepower, but it can be done. |
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.21 10:53:00 -
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I actually tried playing football on my own but stood on the ball,fell and hurt my knee so now I play online games all alone.
Great thread btw
Edit:
Anyway you get more kills solo because you dont have dirty stinking "friends" kill stealing anything that moves. Squad mates are nothing but thieves and make the game much harder. |

Sparten 269
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2012.09.21 10:59:00 -
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Its not that solo is impossible, its that you're terrible at it. |

APX147
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:03:00 -
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When did I say I couldn-¦t go solo? Can some of you come back to earth please. My view is that it-¦s easier to group up with others to score points. Would like to see more balance for solo play. That-¦s all.
And yes. I-¦m still learning this game. Getting better every day. Enjoying that I have to put some effort in to gain some skills. Fantastic to be a part of this Beta test. |

War Wulf13
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:10:00 -
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APX147 wrote:When did I say I couldn-¦t go solo? Can some of you come back to earth please. My view is that it-¦s easier to group up with others to score points. Would like to see more balance for solo play. That-¦s all.
OK, just so I'm clear on this and quite frankly I'm trying to understand your point of view, what I'm reading is this:
Dear CCP, I'm not as powerful as a group of 5 or more people. Please can you fix this. Yours sincerely
{insert name of 'wants to pwn' here}
Am I reading this wrong? can you please tell me wtf you're actually asking for APX because quite frankly I'm struggling here. |

Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:14:00 -
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APX147 wrote:When did I say I couldn-¦t go solo? Can some of you come back to earth please. My view is that it-¦s easier to group up with others to score points. Would like to see more balance for solo play. That-¦s all.
And yes. I-¦m still learning this game. Getting better every day. Enjoying that I have to put some effort in to gain some skills. Fantastic to be a part of this Beta test.
Awwww now I gota give you a like +1
But not Really you get more points solo. |

APX147
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:16:00 -
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War Wulf13 wrote:APX147 wrote:When did I say I couldn-¦t go solo? Can some of you come back to earth please. My view is that it-¦s easier to group up with others to score points. Would like to see more balance for solo play. That-¦s all.
OK, just so I'm clear on this and quite frankly I'm trying to understand your point of view, what I'm reading is this: Dear CCP, I'm not as powerful as a group of 5 or more people. Please can you fix this. Yours sincerely {insert name of 'wants to pwn' here} Am I reading this wrong? can you please tell me wtf you're actually asking for APX because quite frankly I'm struggling here. I-¦m not asking for anything kid. I-¦m discussing what I feel when I play. Why is this so hard to understand? |

GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:17:00 -
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It is what you are saying that is impossible.
It's a game BASE on teamplay. And we don't want to go in group and shoot lone wolfs, we want to go in group and fight against other groups...
That's much funnier when you have a big frontline with lots of people shooting each other with assault, forge gun, tank, dropship all the way around. And you and your team have to go through.
BUT, I understand what you are saying, and you already have a lots of solutions to get points and kills going lone wolf. I'm trying it a lot at the moment. Take a scout with shotgun, go behind enemy lines, put dropuplinks, hack installations, go find snipers, take a LAV and go kill Kemlar Maktar alone on his mountain with his big forge gun an proto heavy dropsuit 
As this game is base on teamplay, you can't especially reward a lone wolf. He has to do his one score, using everything that is possible, still being usefull for his team. If you kill someone that is useless for his team, you are useless for your own. And if you have good scuad leader, you will be reward as you have to.
Edit : in the future, good lone wolf will be essential |

APX147
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:18:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:APX147 wrote:When did I say I couldn-¦t go solo? Can some of you come back to earth please. My view is that it-¦s easier to group up with others to score points. Would like to see more balance for solo play. That-¦s all.
And yes. I-¦m still learning this game. Getting better every day. Enjoying that I have to put some effort in to gain some skills. Fantastic to be a part of this Beta test. Awwww now I gota give you a like +1 But not Really you get more points solo. Guess i have to get better.. And thanks bro :) |

Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:18:00 -
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Well what would you suggest to improve solo play. I would think a Mega Thukker nade might be the way to go but then I might not be the sharpest lightbulb.
APX147 i gota say this tho you wont have a hope in hell no matter how good you get against corp squads that are training hard together. (unless your really underhanded and the back stabbing sort)
Also sniping sucks plz plz dont go to the darkside. |

Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:21:00 -
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I can't wait for friendly fire. Everyone will solo, the blob will explode. |
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:24:00 -
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When blue on blue starts tony you better not be packing thuckker nades mkay. |

The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:27:00 -
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dude seriously? we just recently got away from the "solo crap". I dont know how you guys think about it but i treat every randomer like dirt until they prove me wrong. Just with the simple fact that i allways expect that my team is not capable in playing this game. This is also the reason why i was forced to spec into allmost every role that this game offers. Be it from Vehicles to infantry,AV or support. I can do any task and i have to do any task cause my team is not capable to even put their gun into the enemys direction. Example of this:
-When my team needs transport i drive allways the LAV otherwise some "disaibled gamer" will try to attack a 6 man group with the LAV instead of going stright past them to the unguarded objective.
-when my team needs some 1 with a nanite injector i will do this task otherwise the triage guys throw a nano hive at the guy who is dead on the ground.
-when i see a enemy tank incoming i go to a supply depot and swap to AV cause my team is to busy sitting with snipers on a rock.
-when i can hack a objective i allways throw a remote explosives on it cause i know that my team is not capable to defend a objective longer then 20 secs.
-when we are trying to attack a objective i set drop uplinks cause my team doesnt even has the slightest clue what these are for. They probs think its a plate where you can put a pizza on.
- when im playing skirmish and the match allready started and my team is loosing (they allways are, allways.....) i get my dropship, type screw you all in the team chat and start to repair the MCC for some SP.
In my opinion 90% of the people who are playing this game have no clue what they are doing. Thats why i prefer to play most of the time with a squad with decent players. |

Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:29:00 -
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I would love to see some kind of "mercenary" mode, where clans and parties are forbidden from joining. If i just want to play without worry of some clan or party dominating the match with utter ease, I should have that option. Not everybody who is going to play this game rolls with clan and parties, a lot of us just want a fun time as casual players.
Problem is, the 24/7 players think they own this game, and will disagree 100% with the above statement. Hopefully CCP realizes the 24/7 players are a VERY small minority, and the real cash-cow comes from more casual type of players. |

Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:38:00 -
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I dont see why both can not be catered for without lessening the game.
We are basicly seeinga division between the Nullsec and highsec . We need both. |

GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:40:00 -
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The quick instant battle will still be up, with SP filter why not a "Lone Wolf" filter ... |

Tyrael Valdare
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:46:00 -
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Didn't they say there may be some sort of solo mode where you fight lots and lots of drones. Maybe just imagining it. I've read so much nonsense and speculation everything's starting to blend together. Anyway, carry on. |

APX147
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:47:00 -
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Ieukoplast wrote:I would love to see some kind of "mercenary" mode, where clans and parties are forbidden from joining. If i just want to play without worry of some clan or party dominating the match with utter ease, I should have that option. Not everybody who is going to play this game rolls with clan and parties, a lot of us just want a fun time as casual players.
Problem is, the 24/7 players think they own this game, and will disagree 100% with the above statement. Hopefully CCP realizes the 24/7 players are a VERY small minority, and the real cash-cow comes from more casual type of players. I couldn-¦t agree more.
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Tyas Borg
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
112
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:51:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote: Example of this:
-When my team needs transport i drive allways the LAV otherwise some "disaibled gamer" will try to attack a 6 man group with the LAV instead of going stright past them to the unguarded objective.
-when my team needs some 1 with a nanite injector i will do this task otherwise the triage guys throw a nano hive at the guy who is dead on the ground.
-when i see a enemy tank incoming i go to a supply depot and swap to AV cause my team is to busy sitting with snipers on a rock.
-when i can hack a objective i allways throw a remote explosives on it cause i know that my team is not capable to defend a objective longer then 20 secs.
-when we are trying to attack a objective i set drop uplinks cause my team doesnt even has the slightest clue what these are for. They probs think its a plate where you can put a pizza on.
- when im playing skirmish and the match allready started and my team is loosing (they allways are, allways.....) i get my dropship, type screw you all in the team chat and start to repair the MCC for some SP.
In my opinion 90% of the people who are playing this game have no clue what they are doing. Thats why i prefer to play most of the time with a squad with decent players.
Great post Dark. I've bolded the bit I think is most important. It's the main reason the player base in general annoys me. They only complain about what kills them instead of actually testing it themselves then commenting. It's always, "OMFG, [insert OP weapon here] is totally overpowered. WHY U NO NERF, CPP?!!"....
People need to stop trying to lone wolf and work more as a team, specialising and supporting each other. Dark is right, too many people have the mentality that they should just roflstomp a bunch of guys solo. It's the way all the CoD and BF crowds think as it's the only thing they know.
The idea of the "mercenary mode" sounds awfully like you want to go into a public lobby full of easy kills?, similar to 90% of the CoD player base.
Frankly if that gets added I want nothing to do with it. I got bored of CoD:MW after 2 weeks and maxing everything, haven't played any of them online since as it's the same boring game with new paint. I do not want Dust to be that game or to even pander to their needs.
I want tough targets to fight, OP dropsuits and vehicles. Something that really challenges me and my team to over come. As it stands CCP seem obsessed with balancing everything for the solo guy.
I'm beginning to wonder why there's even MMO mechanics in this game tbh, they seem to undo every skill boost you get as we get more into development. At this rate we're going to have kill streaks and perks in by launch. |

Dzark Kill
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:52:00 -
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APX147 wrote:Ieukoplast wrote:I would love to see some kind of "mercenary" mode, where clans and parties are forbidden from joining. If i just want to play without worry of some clan or party dominating the match with utter ease, I should have that option. Not everybody who is going to play this game rolls with clan and parties, a lot of us just want a fun time as casual players.
Problem is, the 24/7 players think they own this game, and will disagree 100% with the above statement. Hopefully CCP realizes the 24/7 players are a VERY small minority, and the real cash-cow comes from more casual type of players. I couldn-¦t agree more.
Funny that. 24/7 players obviously enjoy the game for what it is and don't usually dictate it should be a certain way.
On the other hand bads pass themselves off as casuals and try to dictate how the game should be made.
Just putting it out there both side know who they are even if they won't admit it...... |

Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:56:00 -
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APX147 wrote:When did I say I couldn-¦t go solo? Can some of you come back to earth please. My view is that it-¦s easier to group up with others to score points. Would like to see more balance for solo play. That-¦s all.
And yes. I-¦m still learning this game. Getting better every day. Enjoying that I have to put some effort in to gain some skills. Fantastic to be a part of this Beta test.
isnt that the point of a TEAM based shooter to well.......work as a team?????? if CCP gave more incentive to solo play then u wont even get randoms trying to do any teamwork
solo play isnt impossible as others have said, its harder, just as it should be considering ur trying to face off against a grp by urself u cant expect it to be easy |
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:57:00 -
[41] - Quote
GLOO GLOO wrote:, take a LAV and go kill Kemlar Maktar alone on his mountain with his big forge gun an proto heavy dropsuit 
Actualy it turns out your not alowed to do this. Kemlar Maktar sent me some hate mail saying scoutsuit is not alowed to be CQB and beat this proto suit. He gets very very mad about this and when I offered a hug it didnt help like I was hoping it too. |

Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.09.21 12:00:00 -
[42] - Quote
Lone wolf? Come to the Asian server at odd hours, you can get lots of nice 1vN fights.
E.g. I had a damn funny ambush 1v2 match a few days ago where I went 7/0.
Heavy type-II/sniper fitted I headed for high ground by the outlying structures to the north and sniped them as they were approaching, including some SMG work. So they called in a tank and by that time I had moved to the western structures, and used the structures to hide from the tank (almost dying several times) and the gunner decided to try to kill me on foot when I SMG'ed him easily.
This continued for a few minutes until I slipped to the hills south-west, at which point the tank gave up and the other guy drove an LAV to the base of the mountain, and got sniped. Hacked the thing, drove to the center and killed him again.
They must have been rather pissed by now, cause they called in a dropship and started circling around so figured it was time to hide in the main building until the timer ran out. |

Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.21 12:02:00 -
[43] - Quote
Rasatsu wrote:Lone wolf? Come to the Asian server at odd hours, you can get lots of nice 1vN fights.
E.g. I had a damn funny ambush 1v2 match a few days ago where I went 7/0.
Heavy type-II/sniper fitted I headed for high ground by the outlying structures to the north and sniped them as they were approaching, including some SMG work. So they called in a tank and by that time I had moved to the western structures, and used the structures to hide from the tank (almost dying several times) and the gunner decided to try to kill me on foot when I SMG'ed him easily.
This continued for a few minutes until I slipped to the hills south-west, at which point the tank gave up and the other guy drove an LAV to the base of the mountain, and got sniped. Hacked the thing, drove to the center and killed him again.
They must have been rather pissed by now, cause they called in a dropship and started circling around so figured it was time to hide in the main building until the timer ran out.
lolz you cheep coward if I was in that game at least i could have kept you company while we hid  |

Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.09.21 12:04:00 -
[44] - Quote
APX147 wrote:When did I say I couldn-¦t go solo? Can some of you come back to earth please. My view is that it-¦s easier to group up with others to score points. Would like to see more balance for solo play. That-¦s all.
And yes. I-¦m still learning this game. Getting better every day. Enjoying that I have to put some effort in to gain some skills. Fantastic to be a part of this Beta test.
As much as i like to discuss things, do you realize that what you're saying is pure logic ? One guy versus 4 guys will 99% of the time end up in the one guy getting mow down. Reasonnable reaction is to back off and regroup.
But, when you mention that there's squads of 4 persons running around picking up solo people spawning out of nowhere, i agree that this is a problem. BUT, it's not a balance problem, it's a spawn problem.
This is war. Number is most of the time a decisive factor.
So in the end, you can't expect any help to counter those 4 guys rushing at you except using brain ( luring them in an explosive trap) or coming at them from behind and use the element of surprise.
Finally, the only suit that is supposed to be scary even to a group of 4 assault guy is the heavy. But at the moment it's weak HP level makes it quite vulnerable. Also, if this 4 player group plays it smart, that heavy wont stand more chance than the regular guy. |

GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.09.21 12:06:00 -
[45] - Quote
Sha Kharn Clone wrote:GLOO GLOO wrote:, take a LAV and go kill Kemlar Maktar alone on his mountain with his big forge gun an proto heavy dropsuit  Actualy it turns out your not alowed to do this. Kemlar Maktar sent me some hate mail saying scoutsuit is not alowed to be CQB and beat this proto suit. He gets very very mad about this and when I offered a hug it didnt help like I was hoping it too.
I played it well : I arrived on his back, didn't saw me on map, throw an "unlock" nade on his feet, and 2 or 3 shotgun hits... as a heavy, he doesn't have the time to turn around after the first nade hit.
The thing that must be impossible, is a heavy alone... His best friend is the logi, he has to be on the front, walking, DPS around finishing his job...
But give him a hug from me, it might help ;) !!
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.21 12:06:00 -
[46] - Quote
Seee i would say yes the hvy should scare a group still but so should the scout they cant see 2 foot behind them.
@GLOO GLOO
Will pass on the hug with the next foulmouthed hatemail he spams me with  |

Vane KoS
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2012.09.21 12:17:00 -
[47] - Quote
APX147 wrote:[quote=Laurent Cazaderon] There are so many awesome lone wolfs in other shooters. It-¦s a specific kind of game style and a popular one too. I don-¦t wanna lose this group of players from Dust. I don-¦t want to see/play a one minded game.
There are a fair few in dust - I see them every game (euro servers) you will normally find them sitting atop the ranking page at the end of the match.
I am not going to name names nut at least two have posted in this thread already and that was on page 1. I didnt read page 2 or 3 yet. |

Kengfa
138
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Posted - 2012.09.21 12:21:00 -
[48] - Quote
CCP don't listen to this moronic request. Instead, remove all aspects of the ability to lone wolf. Give a 100% decrease to bullet damage when not in a squad, and a 99.9% decrease to armor while not near squadmates. Ban players that try to run around as a scout with an SMG. Don't allow kills for unsquadded players. Ban the OP of this thread. Ban the guy that called people retards for, what I can see, him not being able to speak proper English. |

GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.09.21 12:25:00 -
[49] - Quote
Kengfa wrote:CCP don't listen to this moronic request. Instead, remove all aspects of the ability to lone wolf. Give a 100% decrease to bullet damage when not in a squad, and a 99.9% decrease to armor while not near squadmates. Ban players that try to run around as a scout with an SMG. Don't allow kills for unsquadded players. Ban the OP of this thread. Ban the guy that called people retards for, what I can see, him not being able to speak proper English.
Why ban thoose guys ? It's an MMO, that's so with a RPG part. So "everything" is possible : heavy + sniper, scout with shotgun. It's a role play, if you are good in your role, why not ?
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Kengfa
138
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Posted - 2012.09.21 12:27:00 -
[50] - Quote
GLOO GLOO wrote:Kengfa wrote:CCP don't listen to this moronic request. Instead, remove all aspects of the ability to lone wolf. Give a 100% decrease to bullet damage when not in a squad, and a 99.9% decrease to armor while not near squadmates. Ban players that try to run around as a scout with an SMG. Don't allow kills for unsquadded players. Ban the OP of this thread. Ban the guy that called people retards for, what I can see, him not being able to speak proper English. Why ban thoose guys ? It's an MMO, that's so with a RPG part. So "everything" is possible : heavy + sniper, scout with shotgun. It's a role play, if you are good in your role, why not ? Lol, you don't quite get the point of this post. Nor do you get what RP is. |
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ReGnUm ReSuRgAM WARRIORS
7
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Posted - 2012.09.21 12:28:00 -
[51] - Quote
Kengfa wrote:CCP don't listen to this moronic request. Instead, remove all aspects of the ability to lone wolf. Give a 100% decrease to bullet damage when not in a squad, and a 99.9% decrease to armor while not near squadmates. Ban players that try to run around as a scout with an SMG. Don't allow kills for unsquadded players. Ban the OP of this thread. Ban the guy that called people retards for, what I can see, him not being able to speak proper English.
Someone seems a bit GRUMPY today |

GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.09.21 12:35:00 -
[52] - Quote
Kengfa wrote:GLOO GLOO wrote:Kengfa wrote:CCP don't listen to this moronic request. Instead, remove all aspects of the ability to lone wolf. Give a 100% decrease to bullet damage when not in a squad, and a 99.9% decrease to armor while not near squadmates. Ban players that try to run around as a scout with an SMG. Don't allow kills for unsquadded players. Ban the OP of this thread. Ban the guy that called people retards for, what I can see, him not being able to speak proper English. Why ban thoose guys ? It's an MMO, that's so with a RPG part. So "everything" is possible : heavy + sniper, scout with shotgun. It's a role play, if you are good in your role, why not ? Lol, you don't quite get the point of this post. Nor do you get what RP is.
I mean, if you're good in your role and essential to your team... Of course... |

Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
172
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Posted - 2012.09.21 12:36:00 -
[53] - Quote
I guess I understand. Long as these lone wolfs do not come into the team "realm" of the game. By that I mean when teamplay is essential. CCP is already establishing a co-op mode or something with drones so I'm guessing they wouldn't turn down another way of helping casuals play the game with such a simple ideas as solo-death match.
I hope all that you want is solo death match, which should be the title of thread here as well, because if it's anything else 'cept maybe solo capture the flag-esque games I can't see it working.
And people here are quick to jump on this idea because we don't want players lone wolfing it up in heavily weighed battles all the time. It's not working as a team and we don't want it. |

Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.09.21 12:38:00 -
[54] - Quote
GLOO GLOO wrote:Kengfa wrote:GLOO GLOO wrote:Kengfa wrote:CCP don't listen to this moronic request. Instead, remove all aspects of the ability to lone wolf. Give a 100% decrease to bullet damage when not in a squad, and a 99.9% decrease to armor while not near squadmates. Ban players that try to run around as a scout with an SMG. Don't allow kills for unsquadded players. Ban the OP of this thread. Ban the guy that called people retards for, what I can see, him not being able to speak proper English. Why ban thoose guys ? It's an MMO, that's so with a RPG part. So "everything" is possible : heavy + sniper, scout with shotgun. It's a role play, if you are good in your role, why not ? Lol, you don't quite get the point of this post. Nor do you get what RP is. I mean, if you're good in your role and essential to your team... Of course...
He was being ironic gloo gloo. ^^
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.09.21 12:44:00 -
[55] - Quote
Sha Kharn Clone wrote:I dont see why both can not be catered for without lessening the game.
We are basicly seeinga division between the Nullsec and highsec . We need both.
I'm thinking the game already offers both. I find teamplay experiences in DUST rewarding, as well as going solo.
Friendly fire won't change this. It will change the # of leet players spamming Thukkers tho. lol. |

Timothy Reaper
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
321
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Posted - 2012.09.21 12:57:00 -
[56] - Quote
Mavado V Noriega wrote:isnt that the point of a TEAM based shooter to well.......work as a team?????? +1 for you, sir. |

Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
786
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Posted - 2012.09.21 13:00:00 -
[57] - Quote
Like said above, this is a team based game. The entire lure of dust that they are aiming for is FPS clans and giving them the support that they crave. Most FPS games tend to ignore clan support, but CCP intends to put a heavy focus on this.
Dust isn't a solo game. It's not meant to be a solo game. Everything in the game is designed to encourage teamwork over lone wolfing. That's not to say it's impossible to solo, lone wolves can still compete but it is not and never will be as rewarding as going with a group. That is intended design. In a group with orders, you can get 125 points for a kill for following those orders.
It's balanced perfectly as it is, for how they intend the game to come out. They aren't overlooking solo players, they just are not the target playstyle that CCP is aiming for. |

Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.09.21 13:07:00 -
[58] - Quote
Quote: You-¦re useless dude. A child in the wrong forum. Now go somewhere and grow up kid.
So is this what you guys want? Walk around in circles with other gamers looking for alone players to shoot down 5 against one? Same group og guys perhaps that got upset because they-¦re tanks were not indestructible anymore? Why are there so many kids out there afraid of fair competition
He's the one being childish?
Wow I can't even think of something sarcastic that would compare |

APX147
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 13:22:00 -
[59] - Quote
Like I said before. Add some buildings and/or inside space and the soloists will start to shine. I-¦m not seeing the final product as empty and open as it is now. |

Raynor Ragna
266
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Posted - 2012.09.21 14:30:00 -
[60] - Quote
It's not hard to be a lone wolf. I've been doing it pretty much the whole beta. You just have to be smart. I'm getting that you fall short of the requirement though. |
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APX147
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 15:26:00 -
[61] - Quote
Raynor Ragna wrote:It's not hard to be a lone wolf. I've been doing it pretty much the whole beta. You just have to be smart. I'm getting that you fall short of the requirement though. One tries his best bro. I-¦m building and learning by the minute. Not that enthusiastic to build though as we will lose our stuff before the launch. |

STB-DropTroop EV
11
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Posted - 2012.09.21 15:40:00 -
[62] - Quote
APX147 wrote:This game needs more balance for Solo play. Walking around with other players all day long picking up pieces will not cut it for very long. So many gamers out there who are not team players. This group of gamers is being overlooked in DUST art the moment.
People are running around invincible and you say solo players are being over-looked? I'd be lucky if my entire team with forge guns could take out one person on the enemy team. |

APX147
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 15:51:00 -
[63] - Quote
STB-DropTroop EV wrote:APX147 wrote:This game needs more balance for Solo play. Walking around with other players all day long picking up pieces will not cut it for very long. So many gamers out there who are not team players. This group of gamers is being overlooked in DUST art the moment. People are running around invincible and you say solo players are being over-looked? I'd be lucky if my entire team with forge guns could take out one person on the enemy team. Running around invincible? What are you talking about? |

843 pano
843 Boot Camp
200
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Posted - 2012.09.21 16:05:00 -
[64] - Quote
Funny, I make the most SP from lone wolfing it, not team playing with my clan... There are many things you can do when lone wolfing it. Go for a joyride in a tanked out LAV and carmageddon it (loved that game), get a DS and camp a tower with SL/DS turret or make a speed suit and hunt down snipers. This game is great for both team play and lone wolfs, you just have to be creative and skill into things that give you the power to do them effectively. |

STB-DropTroop EV
11
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Posted - 2012.09.21 16:12:00 -
[65] - Quote
APX147 wrote:STB-DropTroop EV wrote:APX147 wrote:This game needs more balance for Solo play. Walking around with other players all day long picking up pieces will not cut it for very long. So many gamers out there who are not team players. This group of gamers is being overlooked in DUST art the moment. People are running around invincible and you say solo players are being over-looked? I'd be lucky if my entire team with forge guns could take out one person on the enemy team. Running around invincible? What are you talking about?
The terrible hitboxes and latency issues that make this game almost unbearable to play. |

mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
425
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Posted - 2012.09.21 16:16:00 -
[66] - Quote
You can still lone wolf. Nothing stopping you. I don't see what the trouble is. I've done it plenty when I don't have friends on, or am not in the mood to group up.
Also, if you think there is a SUPPOSED problem. It'll solve itself with the eventual segregation of high/low/nul-sec. Most Corps and groups will likely be spending a lot of their time in low and null sec. |

APX147
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 16:42:00 -
[67] - Quote
STB-DropTroop EV wrote:APX147 wrote:STB-DropTroop EV wrote:APX147 wrote:This game needs more balance for Solo play. Walking around with other players all day long picking up pieces will not cut it for very long. So many gamers out there who are not team players. This group of gamers is being overlooked in DUST art the moment. People are running around invincible and you say solo players are being over-looked? I'd be lucky if my entire team with forge guns could take out one person on the enemy team. Running around invincible? What are you talking about? The terrible hitboxes and latency issues that make this game almost unbearable to play. Have you got your PS3 on a static IP. Also. Have you Port Forwarded Dust? |

DILLIGAD
50
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Posted - 2012.09.21 16:47:00 -
[68] - Quote
APX147 wrote:This game needs more balance for Solo play. Walking around with other players all day long picking up pieces will not cut it for very long. So many gamers out there who are not team players. This group of gamers is being overlooked in DUST art the moment.
LOLZ. Try taking a planet by yourself Rambo! ;)! |

APX147
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 16:50:00 -
[69] - Quote
DILLIGAD wrote:APX147 wrote:This game needs more balance for Solo play. Walking around with other players all day long picking up pieces will not cut it for very long. So many gamers out there who are not team players. This group of gamers is being overlooked in DUST art the moment. LOLZ. Try taking a planet by yourself Rambo! ;)! Have you bin trolling for a long time or is this new? |

Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
251
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Posted - 2012.09.21 17:00:00 -
[70] - Quote
APX147 wrote:STB-DropTroop EV wrote:APX147 wrote:STB-DropTroop EV wrote:APX147 wrote:This game needs more balance for Solo play. Walking around with other players all day long picking up pieces will not cut it for very long. So many gamers out there who are not team players. This group of gamers is being overlooked in DUST art the moment. People are running around invincible and you say solo players are being over-looked? I'd be lucky if my entire team with forge guns could take out one person on the enemy team. Running around invincible? What are you talking about? The terrible hitboxes and latency issues that make this game almost unbearable to play. Have you got your PS3 on a static IP. Also. Have you Port Forwarded Dust?
I don't know how to do either of those. |
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APX147
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.09.21 17:08:00 -
[71] - Quote
Fiasco Llana wrote:
I don't know how to do either of those.
Then you should not complain about bad connection and/or latency. Those two things are very important for quality game play. Especially when you-¦re playing a fragile beta like this one.
Learn how to put your PS3 on a static IP. Then learn how to port forward games.
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Sir Petersen
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
112
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Posted - 2012.09.21 17:12:00 -
[72] - Quote
Here you have the ports for DUST514.
TCP 443 and 80. (Backend communication) UDP 20000-21000. (Battle server communications) UDP 12000-13000. (Voice communication)
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Kengfa
138
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Posted - 2012.09.22 15:48:00 -
[73] - Quote
843 pano wrote:Funny, I make the most SP from lone wolfing it, not team playing with my clan... There are many things you can do when lone wolfing it. Go for a joyride in a tanked out LAV and carmageddon it (loved that game), get a DS and camp a tower with SL/DS turret or make a speed suit and hunt down snipers. This game is great for both team play and lone wolfs, you just have to be creative and skill into things that give you the power to do them effectively.
Yeah, I'm sure you do, what with your 3 kills a game ago. Your problem is that your clan is a piece of ****. |

STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.09.22 15:52:00 -
[74] - Quote
Kengfa wrote:843 pano wrote:Funny, I make the most SP from lone wolfing it, not team playing with my clan... There are many things you can do when lone wolfing it. Go for a joyride in a tanked out LAV and carmageddon it (loved that game), get a DS and camp a tower with SL/DS turret or make a speed suit and hunt down snipers. This game is great for both team play and lone wolfs, you just have to be creative and skill into things that give you the power to do them effectively. Yeah, I'm sure you do, what with your 3 kills a game ago. Your problem is that your clan is a piece of ****. How's fish defense force going?
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Kengfa
138
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Posted - 2012.09.22 15:53:00 -
[75] - Quote
STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Kengfa wrote:843 pano wrote:Funny, I make the most SP from lone wolfing it, not team playing with my clan... There are many things you can do when lone wolfing it. Go for a joyride in a tanked out LAV and carmageddon it (loved that game), get a DS and camp a tower with SL/DS turret or make a speed suit and hunt down snipers. This game is great for both team play and lone wolfs, you just have to be creative and skill into things that give you the power to do them effectively. Yeah, I'm sure you do, what with your 3 kills a game ago. Your problem is that your clan is a piece of ****. How's fish defense force going?
Name change, and just fine. Space-Fish Empire. |

STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.09.22 15:55:00 -
[76] - Quote
Kengfa wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Kengfa wrote:843 pano wrote:Funny, I make the most SP from lone wolfing it, not team playing with my clan... There are many things you can do when lone wolfing it. Go for a joyride in a tanked out LAV and carmageddon it (loved that game), get a DS and camp a tower with SL/DS turret or make a speed suit and hunt down snipers. This game is great for both team play and lone wolfs, you just have to be creative and skill into things that give you the power to do them effectively. Yeah, I'm sure you do, what with your 3 kills a game ago. Your problem is that your clan is a piece of ****. How's fish defense force going? Name change, and just fine. Space-Fish Empire. Since you mentioned **** corps, i brought yours up. Member number? |
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