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Antonius Dacinci
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:19:00 -
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Just saying but did anyone else notice especially with the aid of http://eve-offline.net/?server=singularity that the day of the tank "Nerf" (relative opinions and whatnot) that we had a rather interesting drop in players across the entire week in comparison to the last week. Now sure people can go on and on about all sorts of stuff in balance and fun and whatnot. But to me this sounds like a range of 100-500 players were fine with the way tanks were and the starting of nerfs may have put their confidence in the game off.
Take this how you will just wanting to share a observation. |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:20:00 -
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I think this had more to do with the stability issues created by the hotfix an the introduction of the squad bug. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:21:00 -
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Or maybe once they stop crying about it and realise they have to learn to play the game and not just hit the "i win" button they will be back. |
a dirty Shisno
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
130
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:21:00 -
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Antonius Dacinci wrote:Just saying but did anyone else notice especially with the aid of http://eve-offline.net/?server=singularity that the day of the tank "Nerf" (relative opinions and whatnot) that we had a rather interesting drop in players across the entire week in comparison to the last week. Now sure people can go on and on about all sorts of stuff in balance and fun and whatnot. But to me this sounds like a range of 100-500 players were fine with the way tanks were and the starting of nerfs may have put their confidence in the game off. Take this how you will just wanting to share a observation. The tank nerf introduced the squad bug. Many people said they would call it quits until the bug was fixed because it was preventing them from playing. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:22:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Or maybe once they stop crying about it and realise they have to learn to play the game and not just hit the "i win" button they will be back.
LOL. I've been playing the whole time going +10-1. |
Jimbo Boilstaff
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
83
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:23:00 -
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wasnt the weekend before the one just gone (when it peaks highest) a holiday weekend in america??
It seems to drop on the monday/tuesday and the 'adjustments' were made at the end of the week,,,,
possibly could be people being put off by the way things were,, and despite the changes, are likely waiting for new build
towards the end of the last build there were very few players still playing.... and the general vibe seems to be people have concluded their testing of the 'precursor' build,, so would expect a drop (maybe even lower than now) in the lead up to the new build (which people rightly, or wrongly.... appear to think is due to be announced soon) |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:26:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Or maybe once they stop crying about it and realise they have to learn to play the game and not just hit the "i win" button they will be back. LOL. I've been playing the whole time going +10-1.
I was refering to 100-500 people who stopped playing, are you that insecure and paranoid that you think every tank comment is aimed directly at you?
I went 26-1 on my last game earlier, whats your point? Want a gold star? |
Saul Deschain
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
19
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:30:00 -
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A lot of people are like me and refuse to play until it's fixed. Right now, the game is so unstable that complete system lock ups are way too common.
Is CCP going to buy me a new PS3 when my existing one breaks due to corrupted hard drive? Of course not.
I won't be playing until it's clear that the risk of system freeze is much lower than it is now. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:31:00 -
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I fail to see how a system crash can kill your HDD, if there really was a chance of that CCP wouldnt be releasing it for Public use because of the media backlash they would get, NDA or no. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:32:00 -
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unfortunately some of us had to get employed since beta testing was not paying the bills.. hope to be back a lot soon(tm) |
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Saul Deschain
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
19
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:34:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:I fail to see how a system crash can kill your HDD
It can happen. When the system locks up, and you restart, you get a message that says something like "Your system didn't shut down properly. The hard disc may be corrupted. The system will check and this may take up to two hours"
Quote:if there really was a chance of that CCP wouldnt be releasing it for Public use because of the media backlash they would get, NDA or no.
LOL that's a good one. |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:42:00 -
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I can't speak for everyone else, but I tend to be on less and less as each build wears on. There's a bit of a rush to play right after a wipe, both to check out the new stuff and to try and get ahead of the SP curve. Once I've got my character in a place I'm relatively comfortable with, I'll play a bunch more to take advantage of the benefits gained by the early grinding. After that, without definitive information regarding the next wipe, I taper off bit by bit. Then the announcement comes and I have to burn off all my excess cash.
Rince. Repeat. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:42:00 -
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Saul Deschain wrote: When the system locks up, and you restart, you get a message that says something like "Your system didn't shut down properly. The hard disc may be corrupted. The system will check and this may take up to two hours"
I'm pretty sure that's just either 1, Sony covering their arse or 2. Shoddy Sony Operating systems. |
Kane Fyea
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
65
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:50:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:I can't speak for everyone else, but I tend to be on less and less as each build wears on. There's a bit of a rush to play right after a wipe, both to check out the new stuff and to try and get ahead of the SP curve. Once I've got my character in a place I'm relatively comfortable with, I'll play a bunch more to take advantage of the benefits gained by the early grinding. After that, without definitive information regarding the next wipe, I taper off bit by bit. Then the announcement comes and I have to burn off all my excess cash.
Rince. Repeat. What is this Rince? |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:52:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Saul Deschain wrote: When the system locks up, and you restart, you get a message that says something like "Your system didn't shut down properly. The hard disc may be corrupted. The system will check and this may take up to two hours"
I'm pretty sure that's just either 1, Sony covering their arse or 2. Shoddy Sony Operating systems.
Personally I lean towards #2 since I know Sony has shoddy O/S (a number of issues over the years that I won't dredge up here). But shoddy O/S certainly can lead to hardware failure.
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Antonius Dacinci
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:55:00 -
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Just saying >.> really easy to solve a corrupt hard drive if you know what your doing. But oh god you might void your warentee! *eyeroll* |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.09.17 22:03:00 -
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It might just be a coincidence. I don't use tanks and I stopped playing around the time of the nerf. It's close enough to the wipe/new build that I just can't bring myself to endure more crashing etc. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.09.17 22:04:00 -
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Antonius Dacinci wrote:Just saying >.> really easy to solve a corrupt hard drive if you know what your doing. But oh god you might void your warentee! *eyeroll* Well that's another issue entirely. Was simply stating that the problem could occur, not that it was super hard to fix I still play daily even with the system freezes (which are a pain in the kitten), doesn't worry me but it is still an irritant. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.17 22:11:00 -
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Kmart has hit it bang on. All those tanker that jump ship? It's only because they have spent all their SP on something which has just been nerfed heavily. Character reset soon so they'll just wait instead of going militia super clone. |
Beast Beastlington
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
237
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Posted - 2012.09.17 22:25:00 -
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I haven't had the freezing issue.
I still play somewhat regularly, just to test things and give feedback here when I discover an issue. Alot of people who I play regularly with won't bother with the game at the moment because they really don't think it's much fun. |
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Ima Leet
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.09.17 22:32:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:I think this had more to do with the stability issues created by the hotfix an the introduction of the squad bug. i agree Kain. plus, its not really dropped that much at all. just keep watching that site. numbers arent dropping, people are tired of bugs that cause them to be unable to play in groups |
Scholar Him
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2012.09.17 23:09:00 -
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I stopped playing after the patch, not because the patch was bad, but because it didn't address the issues I have with the game. You really should not attempt to place the blame on the patch itself, it could be what was not fixed when they patched it that turned off the majority of the players.
I'm not playing until the framerate issue is fixed and the system lock-up issue is fixed, be it the next patch or the last. I also require a better spawn system for ambush mode. I did not quit, as you assume, because they fixed the tanks (but broke the jeeps). I believe they did a good job at addressing that issue. However, they game is still not worthy of turning on for me. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.09.18 00:20:00 -
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Antonius Dacinci wrote:Just saying but did anyone else notice especially with the aid of http://eve-offline.net/?server=singularity that the day of the tank "Nerf" (relative opinions and whatnot) that we had a rather interesting drop in players across the entire week in comparison to the last week. Now sure people can go on and on about all sorts of stuff in balance and fun and whatnot. But to me this sounds like a range of 100-500 players were fine with the way tanks were and the starting of nerfs may have put their confidence in the game off. Take this how you will just wanting to share a observation.
I haven't played since, I tried a few rounds, and found them too easy to kill tanks when I ran as AV (In just a Tier 2 assault no less), and when I called in tanks, they tended to die right away. At the cost of replacement, and not really any tanks to play with as my secondary skill line (AV) I really can't be bothered with the remainder of the build.
I even went to the IRC, as suggested, never got to say anything, all I saw was a major anti-tank circle-jerk, and the few who dared speak in tanks defence were run out of there in short order, so I left again. I've been wasting my time here on the forums in the hopes that the DEVS might take notice here, and figure out that the IRC channel is not representative. Not holding any breath though. Beyond that, I've really couldn't be bothered with DUST as such at the moment. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.09.18 01:10:00 -
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Does this mean that if I try to play tonight I won't have to deal with as many server full messages? |
Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2012.09.18 01:32:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Beyond that, I've really couldn't be bothered with DUST as such at the moment.
Funny thats how i felt every game had 3 tanks running around blasting everything that moved, You know the AR is point and shoot you could try learning to use it. |
ReGnUm ReSuRgAM DEI
33
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Posted - 2012.09.18 01:33:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Or maybe once they stop crying about it and realise they have to learn to play the game and not just hit the "i win" button they will be back. LOL. I've been playing the whole time going +10-1.
thats all |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.09.18 08:19:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:Beyond that, I've really couldn't be bothered with DUST as such at the moment. Funny thats how i felt every game had 3 tanks running around blasting everything that moved, You know the AR is point and shoot you could try learning to use it.
Funny, I kept saying the same about wannabe AV people. Instead they had a circle-jerk in IRC and the DEVS caved and make tanks much easier to kill.
It is all about preferred play style. I'm no good at the "gun game", which is why I hoped Dust would differentiate itself from the other gun games out there, and use the knowledge CCP have from EVE online to make vehicles fun.
Vehicles (especially the LAV) are the only things in this game that is killable with just one hit of anything, without any effort what so ever on the part of the shooter. Guns, even FG's via infantry, you have to get out there, be exposed, but the AV role you can practically be hiding behind a hill, drop a grenade on the ground, let loose a swarm, or to some extend fire a Forge gun blast, and as you are OHK killing the vehicle, they really can't evade. |
Seran Jinkar
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
214
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Posted - 2012.09.18 08:37:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:Beyond that, I've really couldn't be bothered with DUST as such at the moment. Funny thats how i felt every game had 3 tanks running around blasting everything that moved, You know the AR is point and shoot you could try learning to use it. Funny, I kept saying the same about wannabe AV people. Instead they had a circle-jerk in IRC and the DEVS caved and make tanks much easier to kill. It is all about preferred play style. I'm no good at the "gun game", which is why I hoped Dust would differentiate itself from the other gun games out there, and use the knowledge CCP have from EVE online to make vehicles fun. Vehicles (especially the LAV) are the only things in this game that is killable with just one hit of anything, without any effort what so ever on the part of the shooter. Guns, even FG's via infantry, you have to get out there, be exposed, but the AV role you can practically be hiding behind a hill, drop a grenade on the ground, let loose a swarm, or to some extend fire a Forge gun blast, and as you are OHK killing the vehicle, they really can't evade.
Well if you spend about 300k ISK on an LAV it may take 2 to 3 shots from a standard swarm. Even though it somehow still feels like the big target is painted on our side in diamond shape. Esspecially when people snipe you with gurista forge guns over the map. |
vint trebble
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:47:00 -
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It's good to see passion in gamers. Show's were not just a bunch of couch potatoes, laying about, to lazy to voice our opinion. Freedom of speech is great, and to be able to voice your opinion without being reprimanded is even better; but oh lordy lord will you guys please, please PLEASE give it up about tanks.
We get it, some of you liked being able to roll around the map without any interruption while you piled up kills, and take them away from most of the team, some of us didn't. Fact is, SINCE the hotfix, tanks have become more stable, and do not pollute the map. They are an added element, and are used with caution if you want to keep them. Maybe some people got butt hurt at the fix, the fact is this: CCP has a means to make a great game here, and we have the chance to test it. You have every right to be upset about certain mechanics you enjoy, and any feedback seems to be welcome on these forums. That being said it is your prerogative, and shouldn't try to effect others thoughts an opinions.
Tanks will no doubt get a booster when there are more elements to the game that effect them. IE Stronger Swarms, Fighters, variations a vehicles. Until that point they needed to be put in their place. Even though we may of lost a few tank drivers, you would of lost 10 fold of that in infantrymen had we had to wait until the build fix. |
Corban Lahnder
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2012.09.18 16:45:00 -
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Beast Beastlington wrote:I haven't had the freezing issue.
I still play somewhat regularly, just to test things and give feedback here when I discover an issue. Alot of people who I play regularly with won't bother with the game at the moment because they really don't think it's much fun.
If you play squaded you will.
When you finish a match and return to the merc quarters occasionally your system will hard freeze on the loading screen. After you restart the system the correct way: Push the button hold it down never unplug: Some times your system will come back like nothing happened other times it will give you the improper shut down message and scan for bugs.
So far its happened to me twice. So far the PS3 hasn't found any bugs. For now. But yes it does give me some incentive not to log in if it has the potential to wreck the Ps3 before dust even launches. |
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