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Uber Dragonlord Valkarish
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Posted - 2012.09.17 12:31:00 -
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Look, I know what a lot of you are going to say. "People are gonna camp like crazy if they do that!" and "Snipers are bad enough as it is!", I understand all that but please hear me out. When you have a tank barreling towards you and only a short rail for cover, crouching doesn't cut it. When you are repairing a vehicle while waiting for your teammate/mates to respawn and a sniper across the field is trying to pop you, crouching isn't always good enough. When your whole squad is wiped out and there is a whole squad of enemies just over the ridge, crouching doesn't keep you out of sight. When enemies are pouring towards you in an all out charge, going prone allows you to take a defensive position that can make you a smaller target.
I'm not saying make it insanely exploitable like in cod, but I see no reason the soldier of the future can't get into the dirt if their cover isn't tall enough. Make it a slow animation and prevent people from shooting in the transition if you have to, but it just feels wrong to not be able to go prone.
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Uber Dragonlord Valkarish
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Posted - 2012.09.17 15:52:00 -
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So in your view the soldier of the future shouldn't be able to take full advantage of the cover around them just because other people feel it's cheating? That's what grenades are for. You can walk up behind someone camping and pop them EASILY on a map this size. When you crouch behind cover but your head is still visible above the top of it, it's not really viable cover is it? If this game is going to be as tactically advanced as they want it to be, it would be stupid to leave out basic tactics like hitting the dirt. You can dis it all you want, but that is a tried and true tactic both in the military and in gaming. If you don't like people being able to use tactics so you can get your huge kill streak on, maybe this isn't the game for you. This game is ALL about tactics. |
Uber Dragonlord Valkarish
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Posted - 2012.09.17 16:04:00 -
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I could agree to that if they allowed prone position. Like perhaps prone position blocks of some life support system and you can only stay down a certain amount of time before you die. then you have to wait a set period of time before you go prone again. I could totally support that, as long as it's an option. It just makes no sense to not allow it entirely from a tactical standpoint. |
Uber Dragonlord Valkarish
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Posted - 2012.09.17 16:52:00 -
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I agree that this isn't a modern combat game, but the basics have been the basics for a long time, and as far back as war goes people have known to duck when you are shot at whether it's a bullet, an arrow, a spear, or a freakin' rock aimed at you. If you want to be specific with details in order to maintain consistency with the universe this exists in, then all you'd need to do is adjust the typical prone stance to adapt to the dropsuit. Hold your gun like you do in the rifle stance while prone (I know that doesn't sound like it makes a lot of sense but think about it, your gun is perpendicular to your body and you are somewhat propped on your elbows) then it would work in a dropsuit, you'd just be turning your head to the side to aim instead of looking up. |
Uber Dragonlord Valkarish
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Posted - 2012.09.17 17:40:00 -
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Absolutely, not to mention there are tanks in this game, unlike most FPS shooters. Campers can be easily scared out of a camping spot if a tank rolls over them or someone calls in an orbital strike, or hell just fly a drop ship over their heads and have everybody bail out in midair and use the impact dampener as they land. You can come in right behind them and the only means by which to stop you is an AV unit. And personally I think any unit that has to carry a large weapon like that shouldn't be able to go prone and shoot anyway, so they can easily be sniped. I still like the idea of limiting the length of time you can go prone however. You know full well that people will start lying inside of hard to reach places sniping everyone who walks by just to pad their K/D ratio, and nobody likes that. Then again..... it is still a valid tactic and CAN be countered.... I don't know, I'm sort of torn on that one now. |
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