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Thomas Canalejo
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Posted - 2012.09.17 15:17:00 -
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lol that is such a bad ideal if thay do that you will have snipers gliching in rocks Ive alerty found some on top of rocks you can do that in stand up and fight this is not COD |
Thomas Canalejo
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Posted - 2012.09.17 15:57:00 -
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relly I think thay should put a camper bug in game if you sit in 1 place for too long you cant do damg and life slowly starts to drain |
Thomas Canalejo
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Posted - 2012.09.17 16:07:00 -
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Uber Dragonlord Valkarish wrote:I could agree to that if they allowed prone position. Like perhaps prone position blocks of some life support system and you can only stay down a certain amount of time before you die. then you have to wait a set period of time before you go prone again. I could totally support that, as long as it's an option. It just makes no sense to not allow it entirely from a tactical standpoint. i agree with that |
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Posted - 2012.09.17 16:34:00 -
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Moonracer2000 wrote:I think prone is a perfectly reasonable request and I'm not sure where the hate is coming from. It is a viable, tactical position that exists in real life and many modern FPS games.
How about this for balance? Being prone puts you in an extreme disadvantage for medium and close range combat because unlike everyone else your movement is slowed to a crawl (can't strafe). Also getting into or out of prone takes time, so if you are prone on a mountain and someone sneaks up and starts shooting you from behind you are pretty screwed. this is not a modern combat game tho and dose not want to be like other FPS plus if you wanna go real life most of you guns wont work in prone from this game and just the scouts would be able to look throw sights I mean look at your dropsuits |
Thomas Canalejo
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Posted - 2012.09.18 16:03:00 -
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onieros danneskjold wrote:This is a good idea. People hate on snipers and camping but there are simple ways to counter this. A prone sniper will be decimated by dropships, grenades, missiles. It's time consuming to go prone. Movement and field of vision is severely restricted.
Now, obviously no one wants snipers rock glitching 50-0 games, or SMG wielding protoscouts dolphin diving through battles....but these are problems to be fixed and addressed by CCP and the community when they arise, and not simply be vetoed or denounced as game-breaking ideas because they can be inconvenient to some players some of the time. The fact is, prone is an essential part of modern FPS and denying players this tactic in a game which so clearly champions realism is ridiculous. this is not a modern FPS im not getting why ppl keep saying prone is part of every modern FPS if you want a Modern FPS go play COD |
Thomas Canalejo
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Posted - 2012.09.19 18:40:00 -
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onieros danneskjold wrote:Thomas Canalejo wrote:onieros danneskjold wrote:This is a good idea. People hate on snipers and camping but there are simple ways to counter this. A prone sniper will be decimated by dropships, grenades, missiles. It's time consuming to go prone. Movement and field of vision is severely restricted.
Now, obviously no one wants snipers rock glitching 50-0 games, or SMG wielding protoscouts dolphin diving through battles....but these are problems to be fixed and addressed by CCP and the community when they arise, and not simply be vetoed or denounced as game-breaking ideas because they can be inconvenient to some players some of the time. The fact is, prone is an essential part of modern FPS and denying players this tactic in a game which so clearly champions realism is ridiculous. this is not a modern FPS im not getting why ppl keep saying prone is part of every modern FPS if you want a Modern FPS go play COD This is exactly the attitude no one wants here. I've played COD, I'd play it now if I didn't think Dust514 had the potential to be the best next-gen FPS available. That said, demonizing something as basic as going prone because you don't want to play anything resembling CoD seems a little crazy. Why not get rid of ADS then? The sniper class? Probably should do away with anything that gives anyone a competitive edge. you dont even know what your talking about your in a drop suit how will you get up . you would not go prone in E.O.D. gear hell even in call of duty you cant go prone in E.O.D. gear then look at helmets in this game how are you going to scope in prone thats why im telling you to go back to call of duty and yes we can tell from you post your from call of duty |
Thomas Canalejo
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:16:00 -
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Mobius One1988 wrote:I see no problem with the prone position.
-It helps snipers being, you know, snipers and not some big targets on top of a rock or in the middle of a flat field. The whole point of sniping is to shoot from vantage points and be difficult to see.
-it help in any situation that requires stealthy movements. It so frustrating to spend several minutes sneaking behind enemy lines to capture a null cannon only to be killed by the random guy just happening to pass nearby that you could have easily avoided just by laying down behind some objects.
-it helps firimg the big guns that are usually difficult to use because of the recoil. Call it camping, but it's a basic feature that every fps has. And remember that a camper that can't be easilty killed by a well placed sniper shot or grenade has yet to exist.
-it also helps when things go unexpected, like when a tanks shows up and it's too dangerous to run away. Going prone could be a life saver if the driver is concentrating on something else and can't see you
I find it way too much unrealistic that a bunch of super future soldiers with dropsuits capable of falling from the sky without a scratch and with the ability to boost their bodies in every conceavable way, can't figure out how to lay down on the ground.
I'm imagining when one of those uber soldiers will trip over a rock and find himself with the face in the dirt, saying something like: HOLY S**T WHAT IS THIS SORCERY! Captain i'm laying down on the ground,WHAT NOW?! OH GOD HELP ME! thats why you have suicide as an option |
Thomas Canalejo
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Posted - 2012.09.20 00:48:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Thomas Canalejo wrote:onieros danneskjold wrote:Thomas Canalejo wrote:onieros danneskjold wrote:This is a good idea. People hate on snipers and camping but there are simple ways to counter this. A prone sniper will be decimated by dropships, grenades, missiles. It's time consuming to go prone. Movement and field of vision is severely restricted.
Now, obviously no one wants snipers rock glitching 50-0 games, or SMG wielding protoscouts dolphin diving through battles....but these are problems to be fixed and addressed by CCP and the community when they arise, and not simply be vetoed or denounced as game-breaking ideas because they can be inconvenient to some players some of the time. The fact is, prone is an essential part of modern FPS and denying players this tactic in a game which so clearly champions realism is ridiculous. this is not a modern FPS im not getting why ppl keep saying prone is part of every modern FPS if you want a Modern FPS go play COD This is exactly the attitude no one wants here. I've played COD, I'd play it now if I didn't think Dust514 had the potential to be the best next-gen FPS available. That said, demonizing something as basic as going prone because you don't want to play anything resembling CoD seems a little crazy. Why not get rid of ADS then? The sniper class? Probably should do away with anything that gives anyone a competitive edge. you dont even know what your talking about your in a drop suit how will you get up . you would not go prone in E.O.D. gear hell even in call of duty you cant go prone in E.O.D. gear then look at helmets in this game how are you going to scope in prone thats why im telling you to go back to call of duty and yes we can tell from you post your from call of duty LOL. Your reply is truly embarrasing to forum goers. You first bliethely ignored everything he said, made a ridiculous assumption that servo motor assisted powered exoskeletons are jot up to the task of getting off the ground (how does bein revived work then?), performed a massive stereotype... So on and on. Your logic is has so many cracks in it I wonder if it isn't sand. "LOL wanting prone = COD noob!" So.. Anything that is in CoD can't be allowed in DUST? Well, lets just get rid of ADS and snipers, and hipfiring. In fact, lets turn DUST into a text based adventure. No online multiplayer either. Yes. The existance of CoD means that we can never include basic FPS mechanics like making your profile as small as possible. Thank you for this revelation, Aristotle. -_____- *facepalm* obviously you did not read my post and obviously your another COD player if prone was like it was in bf2 Id be cool with it were you have to go standing to neeling to prone and cant change in air and dont have stedy aim for that 2 secs when you change that be cool but then agin look at you dropsuit the only 1 that will be able to scope in prone is the scout the othere dropsuits cant tilt there heads back metal on metal dont work and Im beting you dont even know what an E.O.D. suite is it is the suit your juggernaut has on in MW3 |
Thomas Canalejo
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Posted - 2012.09.21 00:26:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:if there is animation for going down and getting up so it doesn't allow shots while droping then i could see it being fine, cause a hmg diving at you shouldn't be able to eat you up as it gets to a tiny hitbox.
But I'm still indifferent about it. the HMG cant go prone its carried by a strap over your shoulder and the barrels spin |
Thomas Canalejo
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Posted - 2012.09.21 13:24:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Thomas Canalejo wrote:RolyatDerTeufel wrote:if there is animation for going down and getting up so it doesn't allow shots while droping then i could see it being fine, cause a hmg diving at you shouldn't be able to eat you up as it gets to a tiny hitbox.
But I'm still indifferent about it. the HMG cant go prone its carried by a strap over your shoulder and the barrels spin That's not an explanation how is it not it would need a bypod and to youse a bypod with that big of a gun you will have to be in the kneeling but cant youse bypod becuse barrels spin unless you put it a bace of gun but then it will be offbalence |
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Thomas Canalejo
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Posted - 2012.09.21 14:36:00 -
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wow this is my point https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=37407&find=unread |
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