they were a little for the damage but only a little. now before you AV fags come in here and make senseless points that you spam likes at eachother for let me just say a few things.

I can fight as an infantry and infact Im usually at the top of the game leader boards so don't tell me to man up, YOU MAN UP and instead of runing forwards shooting a tank with ar and then complaining about how it kills you just hide from it or organize an AV ambush/spam the nades.

you say it takes you 12 million SP to reach ur proto AV fits. that is the biggest bull**** i've ever heard. only CCP uses proto heavy fits to try and kill a tank, it only takes 1.25 million to get weaponry 5 and forge gun 5 so you can use the damage modifiers and ishukone forge gun. it takes 2.6 million to get vehicle command 5, caledari HAV 5, and large hybrid turret 3 or large missle turret 3. That 2.6 million does not even include the modules you would get or if you planed to get better than an advanced large railgun.

There is a phrase that goes: you get what you pay for. I want you to consider how that phrase would apply to multi million tanks compared to a single AV fit (I say only one because that is what you are asking CCP to make happen)

and finnally you ask why do i not see tanks die very often. the reason that is is because you can not afford to buy a new tank every game. it is only logical to make it so that they don't die very often for how much you have to pay for them.

the issue is no one wanted to go av so they cryed and when we got the 1 mill sp av's came out to own and they did tanks started to die alot. now tanks cant even move from point a to b without dieing

yes they were op, quit crying now

they were a little for the damage but only a little. now before you AV fags come in here and make senseless points that you spam likes at eachother for let me just say a few things.

I can fight as an infantry and infact Im usually at the top of the game leader boards so don't tell me to man up, YOU MAN UP and instead of runing forwards shooting a tank with ar and then complaining about how it kills you just hide from it or organize an AV ambush/spam the nades.

you say it takes you 12 million SP to reach ur proto AV fits. that is the biggest bull**** i've ever heard. only CCP uses proto heavy fits to try and kill a tank, it only takes 1.25 million to get weaponry 5 and forge gun 5 so you can use the damage modifiers and ishukone forge gun. it takes 2.6 million to get vehicle command 5, caledari HAV 5, and large hybrid turret 3 or large missle turret 3. That 2.6 million does not even include the modules you would get or if you planed to get better than an advanced large railgun.

There is a phrase that goes: you get what you pay for. I want you to consider how that phrase would apply to multi million tanks compared to a single AV fit (I say only one because that is what you are asking CCP to make happen)

and finnally you ask why do i not see tanks die very often. the reason that is is because you can not afford to buy a new tank every game. it is only logical to make it so that they don't die very often for how much you have to pay for them.

I'm cool with it, I can still go at least 14-0, but the LAV is BS now. My Methana is dead to me.

yes they were op, quit crying now

Its been said many times, give CCP time to "adjust" the tanks and AV to a balance. Its the Goldilocks approach. Too much, too little, just right. Am I the only patient one here?

No i just get tired of when i or anyone else gives feedback we have the cod fanatics trolling us

you say it takes you 12 million SP to reach ur proto AV fits. that is the biggest bull**** i've ever heard. only CCP uses proto heavy fits to try and kill a tank, it only takes 1.25 million to get weaponry 5 and forge gun 5

What about:
Heavy Weapon Upgrade
Heavy Weapon Upgrade Proficiency
Heavy Weapon Sharpshooter
Heavy Weapon Sharpshooter Proficiency
Heavy Weapon Capacity
Heavy Weapon Capacity Proficiency
Heavy Weapon Rapid Reload
Heavy Weapon Rapid Reload Proficiency

The Forge gun default has TERRIBLE capacity, we're talking every HAV you kill or every 2 LAV you kill you must either find someone's nanohive or die.

The default range on them isn't wonderful, so these range upgrades allow you to be competitive.

Rapid Reload I'll give you if you argue it's not needed but these others and the next ARE.

The Upgrades for damage are needed to scale with tougher tanks so you're doing more damage per hit and thus keeping them on the defensive since very few vehicles will you mortally wound with one hit.

No i just get tired of when i or anyone else gives feedback we have the cod fanatics trolling us

LOL COD IS 10x better then DUST

they were a little for the damage but only a little. now before you AV fags come in here and make senseless points that you spam likes at eachother for let me just say a few things.

I can fight as an infantry and infact Im usually at the top of the game leader boards so don't tell me to man up, YOU MAN UP and instead of runing forwards shooting a tank with ar and then complaining about how it kills you just hide from it or organize an AV ambush/spam the nades.

you say it takes you 12 million SP to reach ur proto AV fits. that is the biggest bull**** i've ever heard. only CCP uses proto heavy fits to try and kill a tank, it only takes 1.25 million to get weaponry 5 and forge gun 5 so you can use the damage modifiers and ishukone forge gun. it takes 2.6 million to get vehicle command 5, caledari HAV 5, and large hybrid turret 3 or large missle turret 3. That 2.6 million does not even include the modules you would get or if you planed to get better than an advanced large railgun.

There is a phrase that goes: you get what you pay for. I want you to consider how that phrase would apply to multi million tanks compared to a single AV fit (I say only one because that is what you are asking CCP to make happen)

and finnally you ask why do i not see tanks die very often. the reason that is is because you can not afford to buy a new tank every game. it is only logical to make it so that they don't die very often for how much you have to pay for them.

Shut up im getting tired of making unresonable call of duty fanatics like u resonable when none ever see more then the game they love so much

Sad thing is ccp listened to u to much they nerfed tanks to badly yes befor it was rediculous with how much they tank now its rediculous with how little they tank.

So i must say pew pew youredead shut the hell up and dont speak till u relize this game is not call of duty's hey i shot u and i shot u and i shot u hmm only took 3 bullits and a killd the entire team by myself.

No this is DUST 514's get ur ass on a mic specilize for the role u wish whether it be tanker, pilot, tank buster, infantry, logi, lav driver, grenadier, artillery man, etc. And u know what if ur smaller then the other guy ur proply ganna need more friends. Scout vs assult assult wins unless scout is 1 sniping 2 higher grade to the point he narrowly escapes or 3 is just a much better player. An assult vs heavy well depends on the heavies fit if its av it doomed if it hmg the assults doomed no if ands or buts ive tried. Heavy vs lav well lav are broken only used for quick transport so there doomed. After that airpower comes involved so there anouther factor but the point is still made.

Creator of this thread i applause you for being a resonable player worth ccp listening to

First of all, don't insult me telling me to shut up and what to do or say because that just shows how much of an immature little rage whiner you are and no-one listens to your kind.

Secondly: Call of Duty? lol, that game is pure garbage i don't play that. i played every bf since bf2. engineer is my favorite class (you know... AV) i like to drive tanks and choppers and also make them go BOOOM
as a matter of fact tanks in BF are way more vulnerable than in Dust

Thirdly : so you think armor size is what determinates the outcome of a fight? i can take all your armors down with a militia scout and a shotgun and assaults have no problem taking down HMG heavies if you know how to do it right.
Armor size is no guarantee to unlock the "iWiN button"
tank were "iwin buttons"
i don't see you crying in other post about the fact that a militia fit can kill an advanced or proto fit

so i must say wathak 514, keep your mouth closed and don't speak until you realise this is a BETA (yes it's that magic keyword)and accept the fact things will change, sometimes in your favor, sometimes at your disadvantage and you're always free to stop playing and delete the game

The difference is that tankers spec and spend tons of SP to reach their desired playing goal of being a tank driver. Whereas normal ground troops who want to fight other ground troops, have to stop their current upgrading process and waste a bunch of SP just so they can take care of a tank every now and then. Which amounts to a hill of beans at the end of a match in terms of rewards and SP.

Unless somebody wants to be a dedicated AV player, the SP costs would likely be triple that (or more) of what tank drivers have to spend to reach their goal. And even then, the person who spends triple the SP doesn't have NEARLY the same end-reward that tank drivers do, who can easily (at least before the update) go 20-0 with very little effort.

What about:
Heavy Weapon Upgrade (dude there is no problem to fit a proto forgegun on a heavy type-2 suit not needed)
Heavy Weapon Upgrade Proficiency
Heavy Weapon Sharpshooter (erm yeah you can actually shot across the map with a forgegun again so useless)
Heavy Weapon Sharpshooter Proficiency
Heavy Weapon Capacity (this skill gives you only additional ammo to reload not in the clip itself gets a increase)
Heavy Weapon Capacity Proficiency
Heavy Weapon Rapid Reload (forgegun reloads allready fast enough)
Heavy Weapon Rapid Reload Proficiency

The Forge gun default has TERRIBLE capacity, we're talking every HAV you kill or every 2 LAV you kill you must either find someone's nanohive or die.

The default range on them isn't wonderful, so these range upgrades allow you to be competitive.

Rapid Reload I'll give you if you argue it's not needed but these others and the next ARE.

The Upgrades for damage are needed to scale with tougher tanks so you're doing more damage per hit and thus keeping them on the defensive since very few vehicles will you mortally wound with one hit.