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Justicar Kel
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.09.15 05:19:00 -
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There is a "stop gap" measure that you can do to avoid getting the dreaded squad bug. But there is no known hot fix. this is what my friend and I did.
1. I had joined my friends squad and we played a few battles. We had no "Invalids". So my buddy, in battle quits DUST 514 client while we are in battle. I am still in battle. after the battle is over I am still in the squad but not Squad leader. Although he is no longer in the squad. Now I can not join battle. So I leave Squad. Now I can join squads and enter Instant Battle.
My buddy comes back from PS3 XMB with a freshly started client. He can not join battles. For him this is okay. He is squad leader. He leaves the squad. He can still join Instant battle.
2. I join up in my buddy's Squad with him as leader again. In battle he ends the client and returns to PS3 XMB. I still have the option to leave squad, but i don't. Instead I also end the client and return to PS3 XMB. I start running the DUST 514 client, log in and try to enter Instant battle and "Can not join battle when the squad is deployed".
I also can not join squads or invite my buddy whom was the squad leader back to the squad. He can enter battle and does, and he ask me to try and enter battle. "Can not join battle when the squad is deployed".
The "Stop gap" measure...
Do not join squads. make your own squad and lock it, with no squad members. This will keep you from joining Team squads randomly generated. and will ensure you are always squad leader. If you are in a squad and your Squad leader has to restart for any number of reasons, then all members should leave the squad immediately. If you do not quit the game and leave squad before hand, then you can possibly avoid this nasty flu. If your Squad Leader has to restart and you are, say "soft locked" and have to restart then you are forever locked in a squad that doesn't exist from that point on.
Currently this is all we have been able to find. if anyone else has reproduced this in the same fashion, or other. Let us know please.
And yes CCP I will be sending you an e-mail to [email protected].
Thanks to many of ya beta testers! |
Jon Bon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.09.15 05:31:00 -
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Justicar Kel wrote:
I also can not join squads or invite my buddy whom was the squad leader back to the squad. He can enter battle and does, and he ask me to try and enter battle. "Can not join battle when the squad is deployed".
If he leaves his current squad this may fix your issue. I had the same problem when I was the squad leader and my friend was having the same issue. I left my squad as the leader and it immediately freed him up to join matches and create squads.
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Justicar Kel
Doomheim
2
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Posted - 2012.09.15 05:34:00 -
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Jon Bon wrote:Justicar Kel wrote:
I also can not join squads or invite my buddy whom was the squad leader back to the squad. He can enter battle and does, and he ask me to try and enter battle. "Can not join battle when the squad is deployed".
If he leaves his current squad this may fix your issue. I had the same problem when I was the squad leader and my friend was having the same issue. I left my squad as the leader and it immediately freed him up to join matches and create squads.
We did try what you had suggested. and No "Justicar Kel" can not enter Instant battle. Nor can My friend (whom was squad leader) invite me back to squad. I am locked in a squad that does not exist, and can't leave. |
Jon Bon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.09.15 05:36:00 -
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Just to confirm. He has since tried creating a new squad without inviting you or anyone else and disbanded it, and that has not freed up your character to join matches?
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Justicar Kel
Doomheim
2
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Posted - 2012.09.15 05:39:00 -
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Jon Bon wrote:Just to confirm. He has since tried creating a new squad without inviting you or anyone else and disbanded it, and that has not freed up your character to join matches?
He has, joined Instant battle solo in his own squad (with him as leader) quit battle and left squad. I can not get invites, give invites, or join Instant battle still. |
Jon Bon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.09.15 05:40:00 -
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I think you're locked in. |
Justicar Kel
Doomheim
2
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Posted - 2012.09.15 05:43:00 -
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yep and it was his alt and this toon we did this with. he may have described it better than I |
SYST3M 0V3RL0AD
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.15 05:47:00 -
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Justicar Kel wrote:Jon Bon wrote:Just to confirm. He has since tried creating a new squad without inviting you or anyone else and disbanded it, and that has not freed up your character to join matches?
He has, joined Instant battle solo in his own squad (with him as leader) quit battle and left squad. I can not get invites, give invites, or join Instant battle still.
(I was the guy testing the bug with Justicar)
Correction: when i returned from reset i too was not in a squad nor did i create my own squad. I could not create my own. I simply joined instant battle and immediately chose to move to a different squad. I then left that squad and the battle. When i returned to Merc Quarters i was then fixed and able to create my own squad and all once again. Unfortunately it did not free up Justicar.
Just wanted to clarify that.
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Kelshaw Xu
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
65
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Posted - 2012.09.15 05:49:00 -
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Oops. just noticed i was in the wrong clone.
(yes i am "Justicar Kel") |
SYST3M 0V3RL0AD
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.15 06:39:00 -
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UPDATE:
Justicar Kel has been freed from the squad lock.
He restarted his client and upon return was left in the same state that a squad leader with the bug would be in (i.e. Able to join battles, but not able to create squad)
He joined a battle, moved to different squad, chose to leave squad and left the battle. Problem fixed.
Therefore, In order to fix the bug the original squad leader must leave a squad. Any squad. Even just one the game randomly puts him in through instant battle. He just has to choose "leave squad" at some point, any point. Then,and only after the leader has left a squad of some kind, the former squad mate must restart his client and upon return he will be then able to enter instant battle.
If your former leader does not leave a squad, you will be forever locked. That is the key. Therefore, Take note of your squad leader in every match and add him as a contact incase you get bugged and need to ask him to leave a squad to fix you.
Tips to continue playing worry free by avoiding the bug:
Option 1: Before every match, take note of your squad leader. Before the match ends check to be sure he is still squad leader. If not, leave squad immediately. Better still, always leave the squad before a battle ends to be safe.
Option 2: Create a squad of your own and lock it. You will be a one man squad in battle, but you'll be able to play worry free.
Option 3: Create a squad and leave it open. As leader, if you encounter a reason to reboot client/system, you'll be fine..... but whoever ends up placed in that squad will fall victim to the bug. This is not recommended as it will leave players unable to play....but you'll be fine.
Bug recap broken down because A) i'm bored and B) people seem to have trouble understanding the various scenarios....
Scenario 1: You were a squad leader and had to reboot the game/system for some reason during a game. You logged back in and found you could not create/join/leave a squad or receive invites. You can enter instant battle and get into a game.
Solution 1: Enter a game. Press select and go to team. Choose a squad with and empty slot and move to it. Then leave the squad and exit the game. When you return to Merc Quarters you will be fixed.
Scenario 2: You were a squad member. You're leader left the battle for some reason.
Solution 2: Leave the squad immediately!! As soon as you see your leader gone, leave that squad. You have to leave the squad before that leader returns to the game. If you do, you will not be bugged.
Scenario 3: You were a squad member. Your leader left the battle for some reason. You didn't/couldn't leave the squad. You realize you can't join a battle because you're supposedly in a squad. You decide to reboot your game/system.
Solution 3: Since you rebooted before leaving the squad, the bugged squad leader must perform solution 1. Players in his squad at the time he left battle will remain locked in a phantom squad and unable to create/join/leave a squad and unable to enter any battles. It is up to the leader to fix the problem. After the leader performs solution 1, the squad member must reboot the game. When you return you will have the symptoms of Scenario 1. Follow Solution 1 and fix it. Welcome back! No more bug.
Scenario 4: Same as scenario 3, but you don't have any way to contact the original bugged squad leader to ask him to do Solution 1.
Solution 4: Sorry, but you're beat. All you can do is wait for that original leader to realize he's bugged and leave a squad at some point and release you from the ball and chain he's unwittingly attached to you. There is no fix for the bug if you cannot get the squad leader to enter and leave a squad. All you can do now is wait for CCP to officially fix it.
I believe that covers everything. If you've got a unique scenario let us know and maybe we can figure it out. CCP is being completely silent on the matter, but hopefully they will fix the issue in the morning. If anyone is online after the maintenance period please post here if you are willing to test with me on an alt account to see if CCP fixed it or not. |
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Pyrielone
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2012.09.15 07:19:00 -
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same thing just happened to me ty for this thread |
Kelshaw Xu
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
65
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Posted - 2012.09.15 08:21:00 -
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Pyrielone wrote:same thing just happened to me ty for this thread
Did our suggested hot fix work? |
Catfish Joe
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2012.09.15 09:18:00 -
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yeh i got the same problem i have had to reinstall game and i even deleted game file as well but i reinstalled it as well and yet i get what the OP is talking about at first it was telling me " you are not squad leader and you may start/commence battle" then after i tried a dozen times of restarting client and everything it still hasn't worked and so i tried reinstalling the game itself and still no luck now all i get is something to the same effect as the OP saying " you can not join a squad thats already in battle" or something like that and i am really getting aggravated by this i mean i know its a beta and all but i mean if this is not fixed how do you guys expect people to keep playing and supporting you guys by buying your Aurum as i have bought alot of it and its is beyond anger at this point for me . but you can't fix it unless it is posted or you guys are aware of it . now i am stuck in a invisible squad of which i can't get out of to even play a single battle . my friend who was squad leader could after i reinstalled game i don't really feel like going thru 3 hrs of downloading , reinstalling and patching the game yet again just to be able to play the game . i would like a fix or update of the fix as in local a lot of others who don't use the forums as well have been having same issues and are scared to join a squad as it too might happen to them.
edit: i will try what a few posters above me said and give it a try seeing how he hasn't logged off the game yet i may try and get him to do it . |
Chris Gaechmoor
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2012.09.15 11:02:00 -
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Same here, I'm bugged too and cannot play
I even deleted the whole game and reinstalled! This happend yesterday. Stil bugged before maintenance. Hope its fixed in an hour..
CCP PLEASE FIX MY CHAR |
SYST3M 0V3RL0AD
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.15 15:21:00 -
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We're currently testing the bug to see if CCP fixed it this morning. Back shortly with results. |
Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2012.09.15 15:29:00 -
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I too am having this problem, can't play after a squad leader left for the night and resets won't change it, hopefully CCP will fix this ASAP, i know hotfixes are hard to roll out but for anyone playing in a squad this is a harsh bug to deal with.
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SYST3M 0V3RL0AD
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.15 15:58:00 -
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UPDATE 2:
!!! The issue still remains !!! It appears this morning's maintenance period may have cleared out the phantom squad links for some people that caught the bug yesterday. However, the issue is not resolved; You can catch the bug again! We intentionally and successfully recreated the bug this morning and then each fixed ourselves. We are now able to play again. Follow the steps above to prevent yourself from catching the bug in the first place.
If you've got the bug still,sorry, the only current fix is the one we've mentioned. Just keep trying throughout the day and hoping your original leader creates and leaves a squad at some point. Also, restart the game client once in awhile before testing it. The restart of the game is necessary to clear out the bug after the squad leader leaves a squad. |
Enkidu Camuel
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
69
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Posted - 2012.09.15 23:32:00 -
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What about normal players? I wasn't squad leader and I had to exit the game cuz I was bugged (sudden invalid fittings on all my suits at the very start of match) now that I'm back on, I can play normally but I can't squad with my friends or get invites and I'm dead sure that I'm wasn't the leader... I just left the squad in the middle of the battle, what can I do in this case? |
SYST3M 0V3RL0AD
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.16 01:17:00 -
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Enkidu Camuel wrote:What about normal players? I wasn't squad leader and I had to exit the game cuz I was bugged (sudden invalid fittings on all my suits at the very start of match) now that I'm back on, I can play normally but I can't squad with my friends or get invites and I'm dead sure that I'm wasn't the leader... I just left the squad in the middle of the battle, what can I do in this case?
If you can get into a battle, the standard fix [Solution 1 in a previous post] should take care of you. Sometimes you have to do the process twice. Even i have had to do it twice myself to free up my squad in certain cases.
Your squad leader must have disbanded the squad without you knowing. You are lucky. If he hadn't , you'd be one of the people unable to play at all.
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BUGSBUNNY LOONEY
A.C.M.E Corp
7
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Posted - 2012.09.16 01:30:00 -
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go look at this https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=36718&find=unread |
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SYST3M 0V3RL0AD
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.16 01:52:00 -
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That info is not accurate. Everyone does not have to restart the game, or play two games, or go to the market and buy anything. The whole key is the squad leader leaving squad to free up the squad members and the members leaving a squad to be able to create squads. Nothing more. Read post 10 of this thread. it covers everything.
Edit: To clarify, A restart may be necessary if squad member restarts system before leaving squad. That is when they need the squad leader to perform the fix and then the member restarts game. |
Justicar Kel
Doomheim
2
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Posted - 2012.09.16 08:25:00 -
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SYST3M 0V3RL0AD wrote:That info is not accurate. Everyone does not have to restart the game, or play two games, or go to the market and buy anything. The whole key is the squad leader leaving squad to free up the squad members and the members leaving a squad to be able to create squads. Nothing more. Read post 10 of this thread. it covers everything.
Edit: To clarify, A restart may be necessary if squad member restarts system before leaving squad. That is when they need the squad leader to perform the fix and then the member restarts game.
Need to correct that.. The squad members need to leave squad first. then the squad leader should leave squad.
If the squad is, say "soft locked on a load screen" When multiple squad members need to restart. The person whom was squad leader needs to enter battle on restart, Join any other squad, quit squad, create a squad, and to be safe lock squad, then quit battle. This will free up anyone who was squad locked with the original squad.
For the members of the squad whom had a squad leader whom had to restart while in squad. After the original squad leader does the step in the previous paragraph. Then those squad members will still not be able to make a squad, join a squad, but they can enter instant battle. Enter Instant Battle, then join any other squad and then leave that squad. then leave battle. |
SYST3M 0V3RL0AD
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.16 18:42:00 -
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Bump... I saw a "we're aware of it and working on it" from CCP on another thread. But we'd like a little more of an update. This is a serious problem that needs immediate attention. |
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