Or 75% of what they are.


And honestly, thinking of separating gunner and driver is horrible. These are tanks, not god-damn APC's.


i really don't care about this nerf, it doesn't affect me much, but balance is balance.

And honestly, thinking of separating gunner and driver is horrible. These are tanks, not god-damn APC's.

Or 75% of what they are.


And honestly, thinking of separating gunner and driver is horrible. These are tanks, not god-damn APC's.


i really don't care about this nerf, it doesn't affect me much, but balance is balance.

Please tell me a single tank in existence that can be operated by a single pilot...lmfao.

I love how tank drivers are up in arms, when really Dropships are the ones that got shafted here, and they're fairly quiet.

Please tell me a single tank in existence that can be operated by a single pilot...lmfao.

I love how tank drivers are up in arms, when really Dropships are the ones that got shafted here, and they're fairly quiet.

As soon as you show me your laser rifles, dropships, and heavy dropsuit wardrobe.


Also, I'm an LAV driver, so your point is invalid.

Please tell me a single tank in existence that can be operated by a single pilot...lmfao.

I love how tank drivers are up in arms, when really Dropships are the ones that got shafted here, and they're fairly quiet.

Entire battleships are controlled by a single person in EVE. LORE FTW.

Entire battleships are controlled by a single person in EVE. LORE FTW.

they both got shafted. ur dropship is what 500k? so with the new nerf mmmmm ya should be 1 swarm shot. my tank at 1.7m so 3 shots. Sounds right.


also in eve an entire titan is flown by 1 pilot , its called the pod. which tanks should be stuck in pods

also in eve an entire titan is flown by 1 pilot

Actually they aren't, they all have full crews, the capsuleer just controls the main operations while the crew handles all the other random ****. We aren't capsuleers, we don't get in pods, considering a pod is roughly the size of a small tank.

Someone doesn't understand their lore, Titans have an ABSURD amount of crew, multiple cities worth.

Maybe the pilot suits interface with the tank. Either way the pilot control MULTIPLE guns and subsystems.

I say raise the prices for tanks by 75%

Or 75% of what they are.


And honestly, thinking of separating gunner and driver is horrible. These are tanks, not god-damn APC's.


i really don't care about this nerf, it doesn't affect me much, but balance is balance.

More crying that Tanks should be one-man killing machines and not team-based investments to assist in a victory. Considering that every time I played in a match with you all you did was drive Tanks - I can't wait to unload a forge gun in your general direction again.

hes a bit rusty,

A single capsuleer can reduce the crewing requirements of a tian significantly

Source

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/New_Eden_crew_guidelines

also not anyone can pilot the ship with such effecinty only people with the right genes which just happens to be about 1 in a 100 million. which is why capsuleer pilots are so rare vs the general populance.

How the kitten is my point invalid, just because it doesn't pertain to you? And here I was thinking you were one of the more intelligent posters here smfh. The point is, why do tank drivers get to be solo heroes while EVERYONE else needs teamwork? God forbid tank drivers needed some skill and coordination to dominate the field, right?

I say raise the prices for tanks by 75%

Puff puff pass.... You must be high.... Tanks are a joke now I guess you just want it to be something that takes up space on the market? I bet I don't buy anymore being they aren't battleworthy. I tried one just to see how bad the nerf was and its not profitable to use it anymore. Maybe it was my team as they were pretty horrible as well. I had one forge gunner shoot my tank 3 times and pop. One forge gun that was a 1/15th of the cost took out a tank that costed 1.2 mil.(Gunnlogi) I don't think I will be using them anymore. I feel bad for guys who waste money on tanks. Time to go all out AR

Yeah Im not spending 1.4M or more on a tank, so I can drive someone else around to dominate a map. I feel the damn dropships should have a gun for the pilot as well.

Puff puff pass.... You must be high.... Tanks are a joke now I guess you just want it to be something that takes up space on the market? I bet I don't buy anymore being they aren't battleworthy. I tried one just to see how bad the nerf was and its not profitable to use it anymore. Maybe it was my team as they were pretty horrible as well. I had one forge gunner shoot my tank 3 times and pop. One forge gun that was a 1/15th of the cost took out a tank that costed 1.2 mil.(Gunnlogi) I don't think I will be using them anymore. I feel bad for guys who waste money on tanks. Time to go all out AR

i am not a role player alright CVA fags lol. if u wanna have ur gay role playing apply to dust then i believe we need to rework eve ya? how about this, each titan turret will be manned by another eve player the dooms day will be manned by another eve player drones will be manned again by another eve player and thus you have your version of dust tanks....and no you no fly my titan he logged off ^^

Ooohhh yes. Lets separate them. You know, while we are at it, we should separate the eve pilot and the person who targets the enemy ships.

Ohh you want techincal reasons?

Its impossible in eve, jsut like a lossless dueling arena is imposible in eve as well.

Also another reason to toss on the lore

Immortal =/= Emperyan.

Before someone goes dumb on me. That price was the cost of the fit and the tank

Come on Debacle, stop being so close-minded it's just a suggestion. CCP even offered it up as one and the community freaked out about it so they nerfed the ever living hell out of tanks and buffed AV straight through the roof.

I agree with separating them because then it forces a team-play element, and my everlasting hatred of Call of Duty being too mindless of a game to involve team-play elements biases that.

I think the BEST OPTION would be to give -ALL- vehicle ammunition amounts so that they have to hit up a supply depot in order to get more ammunition. At least then there'd be times when the Tank would -have- to break away from engagement or else run the risk of not having weaponry to fight with. It'd involve a lot more thought about what he should use his weaponry for as having a Railgun Death Cannon with only a dozen rounds wouldn't exactly be apt for use against Infantry.

I say raise the prices for tanks by 75%

Puff puff pass.... You must be high.... Tanks are a joke now I guess you just want it to be something that takes up space on the market? I bet I don't buy anymore being they aren't battleworthy. I tried one just to see how bad the nerf was and its not profitable to use it anymore. Maybe it was my team as they were pretty horrible as well. I had one forge gunner shoot my tank 3 times and pop. One forge gun that was a 1/15th of the cost took out a tank that costed 1.2 mil.(Gunnlogi) I don't think I will be using them anymore. I feel bad for guys who waste money on tanks. Time to go all out AR

The driver would have to pay for the tank, and have to spend all of his SP into something that, if his buds aren't online, is completely obsolete

The prices need to be lowered if tanks are going to remain this weak.

I'm sorry, Icy Tiger, but I have to disagree with you. The prices should not be lowered at all. As for the suggestion of making the operator soley the driver instead of driver/operator and tank gunner all-in-one -- I find that to be somewhat promising. You do not necessarily see operators and commanders piloting or gunning their own tanks. So why not now? This is why most tanks have a crew of four members. Maybe this should be looked into and tested as a plausible solution. People will complain naturally over any and everything, but it does not mean it was not best, or what was good for the whole.

You don't fly dropships very often, do you?

Puff puff pass.... You must be high.... Tanks are a joke now I guess you just want it to be something that takes up space on the market? I bet I don't buy anymore being they aren't battleworthy. I tried one just to see how bad the nerf was and its not profitable to use it anymore. Maybe it was my team as they were pretty horrible as well. I had one forge gunner shoot my tank 3 times and pop. One forge gun that was a 1/15th of the cost took out a tank that costed 1.2 mil.(Gunnlogi) I don't think I will be using them anymore. I feel bad for guys who waste money on tanks. Time to go all out AR

Omg you just made me realize, with this change, a full squad could fit into a tank ^_^

They won't. This is a temporary fix until we get more tools to work against them. I have stated this before - do I need to put it in big bold letters?

. They attack and defend which requires coordination.

Kind of like coordinating between your driver and your gunner? Tank drivers are just TERRIFIED of playing more of a support role, instead of playing superman.

Yep. Which is why I said that you can't operate a tank without friends, which means that no friends = wasted SP = waste of time.

Yep. Which is why I said that you can't operate a tank without friends, which means that no friends = wasted SP = waste of time.

So you're admitting that you just want tanks to be able to solo everything?

No. I am admitting that anything shouldn't be able to solo a tank.

Or 75% of what they are.


And honestly, thinking of separating gunner and driver is horrible. These are tanks, not god-damn APC's.


i really don't care about this nerf, it doesn't affect me much, but balance is balance.

Please tell me a single tank in existence that can be operated by a single pilot...lmfao.

I love how tank drivers are up in arms, when really Dropships are the ones that got shafted here, and they're fairly quiet.

By saying that if you needed another crew member, you wouldn't drive them?