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miahus
CrimeWave Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.09.11 13:34:00 -
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I was playing today on an ambush map where you got two supply depots, our team had 3 tanks the other none. The tanks decided to take out both supply depots. I ran out of my three gauged nanohives to resupply, and had to basically get myself killed to get ammo. We know that you have got overpowered machines that can run and gun without a need to resupply, infantry however will need them supply depots. Even if the depots are captured by enemy team, don't take them out...support your team to capture them...I don't know if you know this, but you actually can hack them if you dare to step out of your tank...... it is not enough you're annoying the hell out of every body, you have got to push it up a notch !!! |
Loss Tovas
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
236
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Posted - 2012.09.11 13:39:00 -
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If you leave the tank someone will steal it and if there is no one to kill than blowing those up gets points. |
miahus
CrimeWave Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.09.11 14:01:00 -
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Loss Tovas wrote:If you leave the tank someone will steal it and if there is no one to kill than blowing those up gets points.
your points are more precious than your team logistics....way to go. |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2012.09.11 14:14:00 -
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It's worse when they decide that the survival of their tank is a higher priority than the winning of the match. |
Hired Pinp
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.11 19:26:00 -
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Tanks are expensive you expect someone to just go off on a suicide run to capture an objective? Much easier to drop off one of my gunners and cover him as he captures it, of course if they're not foolish enough to sit in my motionless tank next to the objective. Odds are some D bag would drive off with my tank and cost me another 700,00 ISK if i hopped out for a capture. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.09.11 19:30:00 -
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To play Devil's Advocate, supply depots are potentially the most dangerous things for tanks because they can turn into infinite AV grenade spam points. Generally I won't blow them up, but I avoid enemy supply depots at all cost because they're so dangerous. |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2242
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Posted - 2012.09.11 19:36:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:To play Devil's Advocate, supply depots are potentially the most dangerous things for tanks because they can turn into infinite AV grenade spam points. Generally I won't blow them up, but I avoid enemy supply depots at all cost because they're so dangerous.
Yes it would be so unfair for infantry to have infinite ammo against a tank that has infinite ammo and can get away four times fasre than us on foot.
wow just wow! |
Kengfa
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Posted - 2012.09.11 19:40:00 -
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People that focus on tanks are dicks. They play the game for K/D not to test it. They just look for whatever it is the most overpowered of weapon is, and they use it non-stop.
Who cares about your 700k isk? Throw your tank out to save some infantry of yours. Let them use you as cover.
I own a tank, I've blocked swarms from hitting other tanks, bullets from being fired at nearly dead infantry, and AV grenades from hitting LAV's. |
STB DEADPOOL5241 EV
Doomheim
352
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Posted - 2012.09.11 19:51:00 -
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Kengfa wrote:People that focus on tanks are dicks. They play the game for K/D not to test it. They just look for whatever it is the most overpowered of weapon is, and they use it non-stop.
Who cares about your 700k isk? Throw your tank out to save some infantry of yours. Let them use you as cover.
I own a tank, I've blocked swarms from hitting other tanks, bullets from being fired at nearly dead infantry, and AV grenades from hitting LAV's.
Are you playing my game for me? are you paying for my AUR? are you behind my controller playing for me. NO then stfu about it.
Each of us plays the game for fun, some players dont have fun running around, some players like tanks and LAV's and drop ships. Its not up to you to decide for them or me how we play a video game.
Edited to be nicer. |
Hired Pinp
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.09.11 19:51:00 -
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Lol there's a limit to how much I'll contribute to the team i'll back players up, save them from a fire fight, and cover them while they hack objectives but my tank is my tank I'm not going to loose it over that if you don't like it that's on you lol |
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Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:06:00 -
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Hired Pinp wrote:Lol there's a limit to how much I'll contribute to the team i'll back players up, save them from a fire fight, and cover them while they hack objectives but my tank is my tank I'm not going to loose it over that if you don't like it that's on you lol
hope your not on my team |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2242
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:11:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:Hired Pinp wrote:Lol there's a limit to how much I'll contribute to the team i'll back players up, save them from a fire fight, and cover them while they hack objectives but my tank is my tank I'm not going to loose it over that if you don't like it that's on you lol hope your not on my team
Just as we thought lots of tank drivers are selfish. Enough said
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Ragna Soul
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
90
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:12:00 -
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STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Kengfa wrote:People that focus on tanks are dicks. They play the game for K/D not to test it. They just look for whatever it is the most overpowered of weapon is, and they use it non-stop.
Who cares about your 700k isk? Throw your tank out to save some infantry of yours. Let them use you as cover.
I own a tank, I've blocked swarms from hitting other tanks, bullets from being fired at nearly dead infantry, and AV grenades from hitting LAV's. Are you playing my game for me? are you paying for my AUR? are you behind my controller playing for me. NO then stfu about it. Each of us plays the game for fun, some players dont have fun running around, some players like tanks and LAV's and drop ships. Its not up to you to decide for them or me how we play a video game. Take your **** poor attitude and go play another game.
i get where your coming from Deadpool, but come on relax no need to freak about what one person says |
STB DEADPOOL5241 EV
Doomheim
352
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:18:00 -
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Ragna Soul wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Kengfa wrote:People that focus on tanks are dicks. They play the game for K/D not to test it. They just look for whatever it is the most overpowered of weapon is, and they use it non-stop.
Who cares about your 700k isk? Throw your tank out to save some infantry of yours. Let them use you as cover.
I own a tank, I've blocked swarms from hitting other tanks, bullets from being fired at nearly dead infantry, and AV grenades from hitting LAV's. Are you playing my game for me? are you paying for my AUR? are you behind my controller playing for me. NO then stfu about it. Each of us plays the game for fun, some players dont have fun running around, some players like tanks and LAV's and drop ships. Its not up to you to decide for them or me how we play a video game. Take your **** poor attitude and go play another game. i get where your coming from Deadpool, but come on relax no need to freak about what one person says
Agreed, I got rid of the last line.
Also I have a personal hatred for Kengfa. Kid just rages on and on.. Acts like a brat, so I treat him like a brat. But Im trying to be Mr. Nice Deadpool so I will retract my statement a bit. (but just because you asked nicely) |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:20:00 -
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Man, if you tank guys play this conservatively when we're going to get wiped, I'd hate to see how things go down when it actually matters.
Your tank is your tank, but my dropsuit fittings aren't cheap either, and they don't come with four digits of armor with crazy resists to help protect the investment. You guys act like your tanks are the only things that cost money. I've got fittings that cost 1/5 to a 1/4 of a decent tank, and can still be OHK by any HAV absent-mindedly firing at red chevrons from across the map.
You need a little risk in your reward; tastes better that way. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:25:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:Hired Pinp wrote:Lol there's a limit to how much I'll contribute to the team i'll back players up, save them from a fire fight, and cover them while they hack objectives but my tank is my tank I'm not going to loose it over that if you don't like it that's on you lol hope your not on my team Just as we thought lots of tank drivers are selfish. Enough said
yea, which is why when the four of use hunt and kill them, it is all the more rewarding |
Hired Pinp
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.09.11 21:18:00 -
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If you have such a problem with tanks go get a force gun and do something about it, majority of us use Sicas/Somas (Excluding me). So suck it up and take them out it's simple 3 - 5 shots and you're done. |
Sparten 269
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2012.09.11 21:39:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:It's worse when they decide that the survival of their tank is a higher priority than the winning of the match.
That's because half the time it is since they are worth 100 matches of victories. |
kas croixe
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.09.11 22:00:00 -
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Sparten 269 wrote:Knarf Black wrote:It's worse when they decide that the survival of their tank is a higher priority than the winning of the match. That's because half the time it is since they are worth 100 matches of victories.
really, those tanks cost 10 mil to get and outfit? geez they must be squaring the price of them when I'm not looking. |
SYST3M 0V3RL0AD
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.11 22:10:00 -
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An lengthy, unbiased, non-QQ perspective for tankers:
Listen, i personally don't discredit tank drivers for their choice of weapon. They chose to skill into them and i didn't, fair enough.Sure they are annoying and they cost me a ton of ISK in lost fittings when i get repeatedly steamrolled by them, but I'm also happy to see one on my team. I also recognize that things will become more balanced as we near release so i currently just avoid tanks or coordinate swarm attacks with a couple friends and keep the tanks on the run.
However, i agree miahus does have a valid point. Just yesterday i was in a game on the same team as an STB fella who's name isn't important. (Sorry STB, i really don't have anything against you guys like everyone else on here,and I've had good times with you guys in MAG on many occasions, it just happened to be one of your tankers this time around). An enemy had called in a dropship and was apparently killed before he got into it. I assume it was a sniper that took him out because there was literally nobody near this dropship. I stumbled upon the free dropship-on-a-silver-platter and began hacking it, you know, to use it to help my team. I'm halfway through hacking it and BOOM, it explodes. I look around like "WTF happened?" and to my surprise an STB tanker had rolled up behind me, saw me hacking it and decided to take the dropship out with his Railgun anyway.To deliberately hinder your team like that for a few extra points is just incredibly selfish to me. I get that you need the ISK and SP and in your tank you are a one man army, but in the end this is a team game. In my experience, STB guys are generally decent people and just get hated on here for being good players. In MAG they highly valued teamwork and it totally blew my mind that one of them would do something that selfish to directly inhibit the team as a whole. This shows me that it's the current nature of the game that is causing this selfishness in typically unselfish people and hopefully the coming balancing will correct that.
Blowing up supply depots is a little different because i get that it's a danger to tankers. While there are situations where i would understand them being tactically taken out and i've even done it myself, it should still be a last resort as they are vital to your ground troops. Enemy vehicles abandoned in an empty area of the map that your teammates are currently hacking present no immediate threat to tankers at all. If i get killed hacking it and an enemy jumps in, sure it's a danger to you, but how about just covering me with your kill machine and not letting that happen instead of just blowing the thing up on me? I've even seen abandoned enemy LAVs get blown up... while a teammate is hacking it. I understand they are worth more dead than alive to you, and even i blow them up in certain situations, but not while a teammate is hacking it.
If an enemy spawned a high end tank and as a tanker on foot you killed him and began hacking the tank you'd be happier than a pig in $#@!. Now, what if and i came along in a tank and destroyed it while you were trying to hack it? What would you honestly think of that?
If, say, tanks had nerfs implemented that limited it's ammo and you had to resupply it somewhere and i came along and destroyed that resupply, would you be cool with that?
In the end, yes, nobody is paying for your AUR or playing the game for you and you need not listen to any criticism, but have you ever considered that you are just 1/16th of a team? You have 15 other people on your team. Chances are very high that without those other 15 guys distracting enemies, they'd all pull out AV fits and your expensive tank would be a scrap heap in no time. Tankers don't realize how much ground troops actually do to keep them alive. Yet, one single selfish decision you make with your OHK mobile causes all of your teammates to lose SP, ISK and AUR items in the long run. Some of your teammates running proto gear will actually lose just as much as the worth of your tank. So, while it is your prerogative to be selfish to protect your own investment and you can play the game any way you choose, please keep in mind how detrimental your decisions can be to your entire team. This isn't important now, but when private corp support comes into play those selfish decisions that hinder a team will effectively weaken your entire corp. How about practicing good team play right now and letting your ground troops have just as much fun and success as you're having?
Additionally what happens when someone gets irritated enough by the lack of team play from specific players that they make it their mission to any time they see you on their team, find you from the start, try to hop in your tank before you do, use it as a team weapon the whole game and at the end of the match drive that big pile of money deep into the unsafe zone?
Not that i'm saying anyone should do that.
.That's all i have to say about that. |
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