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OG DonHel
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Posted - 2012.09.06 13:57:00 -
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Is there still only 514 null sec systems in Eve? |
Dzark Kill
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.09.06 14:00:00 -
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Alamo TAYLOR1 wrote:Dum question but yea...why??
DUST was the original Proof of Concept version DUST 1 was a little more polished proof of concept version Dust 514 is though to be the version when the disconnect and invalid fit errors are fixed and it becomes a game... |
Rendiff Jurr
Black Omega Industrial
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Posted - 2012.09.06 14:04:00 -
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OG DonHel wrote:Is there still only 514 null sec systems in Eve?
No, there's over 3000
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Dev Rhom
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.06 14:06:00 -
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OG DonHel wrote:Is there still only 514 null sec systems in Eve?
Nullsec systems take the majority of New Eden. Some regions (like Venal) is nullsec but are sovereignty of pirate npc factions (Guristats in that case). Take this map: black colored systems cannot have player alliance sovereignty. All the remaining systems are player nullsec.
And then, there are about 2500 wormhole systems. |
OG DonHel
65
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Posted - 2012.09.06 14:10:00 -
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Rendiff Jurr wrote:OG DonHel wrote:Is there still only 514 null sec systems in Eve? No, there's over 3000
I should have clarified it as conquerable null sec, excluding the npc regions. But if theres over 3,000 i'm going to say even without NPC regions there is more then 514.. dam |
Dev Rhom
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.06 14:21:00 -
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OG DonHel wrote:Rendiff Jurr wrote:OG DonHel wrote:Is there still only 514 null sec systems in Eve? No, there's over 3000 I should have clarified it as conquerable null sec, excluding the npc regions. But if theres over 3,000 i'm going to say even without NPC regions there is more then 514.. dam
If you want to dive into it, take a look at Dotlan. It is the best map navigator web site known to capsuleer. Click on "Universe" on the top and then navigate through Regions and Planets. |
OG DonHel
65
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Posted - 2012.09.06 14:35:00 -
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Dev Rhom wrote:OG DonHel wrote:Rendiff Jurr wrote:OG DonHel wrote:Is there still only 514 null sec systems in Eve? No, there's over 3000 I should have clarified it as conquerable null sec, excluding the npc regions. But if theres over 3,000 i'm going to say even without NPC regions there is more then 514.. dam If you want to dive into it, take a look at Dotlan. It is the best map navigator web site known to capsuleer. Click on "Universe" on the top and then navigate through Regions and Planets.
Didnt really want to have to do that lol, but I did anyhow. I came up with around 2,540ish player controlled systems :\ and have also decided there is to many ****** renter alliances out there aswell, lol |
Lonewolf514
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Posted - 2012.09.06 18:05:00 -
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the amount of times we can die before our clones need replacing. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.06 18:09:00 -
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Because Derp69 would have been a silly name. |
Elijah Revan
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Posted - 2012.09.06 19:51:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:How would it be "absurd"? If you don't believe the Bible to be true, then at least it would be an amazing fantasy. The only reason anyone has a problem with it, is because it's "religious". However, no one has issues with books like "His Dark Materials" or "Narnia" until they learn the religious/anti-religious undertones, and even then they don't really make a stink. My issue with it is that the EVE galaxy is far-flung from our galaxy and tens of thousands of years into the future. It's about as far removed from anything that might currently exist in our 21st century Earth culture as you can imagine. It would be absurd to reference a religion that doesn't even exist in the fictional setting they've crafted. But now that we know it was his own guesswork we can stop talking about religion.
false, the Amarrians are indeed and Christian/Islamic community, it specifically says that they branched off of the Catholic Church |
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Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.09.06 20:15:00 -
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Elijah Revan wrote:false, the Amarrians are indeed and Christian/Islamic community, it specifically says that they branched off of the Catholic Church
Well, they are a cruel, slaveholding, evil empire, so it wouldn't surprise me, but from what I can tell their religion has no explicit connection to 21st century religions.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Scriptures |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.09.06 22:07:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:How would it be "absurd"? If you don't believe the Bible to be true, then at least it would be an amazing fantasy. The only reason anyone has a problem with it, is because it's "religious". However, no one has issues with books like "His Dark Materials" or "Narnia" until they learn the religious/anti-religious undertones, and even then they don't really make a stink. My issue with it is that the EVE galaxy is far-flung from our galaxy and tens of thousands of years into the future. It's about as far removed from anything that might currently exist in our 21st century Earth culture as you can imagine. It would be absurd to reference a religion that doesn't even exist in the fictional setting they've crafted. But now that we know it was his own guesswork we can stop talking about religion. Hello? Amarr? lmao. As another poster pointed out, EVE has had several biblical references in the past.
Muscaat 514 wrote:The Biblical reference theory actually carries a lot of weight. CCP have often named their expansions with a Biblical theme - EVE Online's original subtitle was The Second Genesis, with expansions Exodus, Revelations I and II, Trinity, Apocrypha all carrying the theme. So while it's not been confirmed, to me it seems the most likely of all I've heard. cf this post at the EVE Online forums...
Also useful is this:
Quote:Amarrians The Amarrians are the founders of the Amarr Empire, and have a strong sense of tradition and ancestry. Their origins stem from the Conformists, a religious group that split from the United Catholic Church prior to the opening of the EVE gate. Under the leadership of Dano Gheinok they settled the continent of Amarr on the planet of Athra and spread from there. Found this here. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
786
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Posted - 2012.09.06 22:22:00 -
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Reading the chronicle "514" will put you in the right direction.
Also, read Templar one.
Nothing is explicitly revealed but the answers are in the lore for those who seek them. Just gotta put the information together from different sources :) |
KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.06 22:40:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Reading the chronicle "514" will put you in the right direction.
Also, read Templar one.
Nothing is explicitly revealed but the answers are in the lore for those who seek them. Just gotta put the information together from different sources :)
Nova Knife...he knows too!! Force him to watch Lady Gaga videos until he tells us the answer!!
Seriously though Nova thanks for the point in the right direction cuz. +1 |
EMPTY SL0T
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.06 23:02:00 -
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514??? it's code.... but where is the planet Kolob that the Mormon God, Elohim, is from???
just askin'....
M.T.
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Heimdall Valkyrie
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Posted - 2012.09.06 23:39:00 -
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Lots of dev-¦s are lougthing in the floor reading this kind of post and saying : "They will never know the truth. We aren-¦t going to say it because if we do, we can-¦t lought with all this kind of post anymore"
Sorry for the english one more time. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.09.07 17:40:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Hello? Amarr? lmao. As another poster pointed out, EVE has had several biblical references in the past.
So what about Amarr? They have some weird space religion with no mention of any of the religious myth from our own time in it that I can see. Anyway, if you want to pretend like you're shooting guys in the year 25000 for the glory of Allah or Odin or Joseph Smith, knock yourself out.
Oh, and exodus/revelations/trinity are not religious words. They are used by a couple of the Abrahamic religions in their texts, but they're not explicitly religious. I think it's more likely CCP chose those names because of the gravity them seem to have due to their common associations, rather than because CCP is a religious game developer and EVE is a religious game. |
Patches The Hyena
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Posted - 2012.09.07 18:37:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Hello? Amarr? lmao. As another poster pointed out, EVE has had several biblical references in the past. So what about Amarr? They have some weird space religion with no mention of any of the religious myth from our own time in it that I can see. Anyway, if you want to pretend like you're shooting guys in the year 25000 for the glory of Allah or Odin or Joseph Smith, knock yourself out. Oh, and exodus/revelations/trinity are not religious words. They are used by a couple of the Abrahamic religions in their texts, but they're not explicitly religious. I think it's more likely CCP chose those names because of the gravity them seem to have due to their common associations, rather than because CCP is a religious game developer and EVE is a religious game.
No one said CCP is a religious developer or EVE is a religious game. Simply that there are references, and when your making a virtual society as big and deep as EVE you have to do a lot of writing. So its only natural there would be references to and inspiration taken from much of modern society, including something like the bible which is wide spread enough that even non believers are fairly familiar with its content and themes. |
Revelations 514
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2012.09.07 18:44:00 -
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Patches The Hyena wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Hello? Amarr? lmao. As another poster pointed out, EVE has had several biblical references in the past. So what about Amarr? They have some weird space religion with no mention of any of the religious myth from our own time in it that I can see. Anyway, if you want to pretend like you're shooting guys in the year 25000 for the glory of Allah or Odin or Joseph Smith, knock yourself out. Oh, and exodus/revelations/trinity are not religious words. They are used by a couple of the Abrahamic religions in their texts, but they're not explicitly religious. I think it's more likely CCP chose those names because of the gravity them seem to have due to their common associations, rather than because CCP is a religious game developer and EVE is a religious game. No one said CCP is a religious developer or EVE is a religious game. Simply that there are references, and when your making a virtual society as big and deep as EVE you have to do a lot of writing. So its only natural there would be references to and inspiration taken from much of modern society, including something like the bible which is wide spread enough that even non believers are fairly familiar with its content and themes.
^I am digging the Demon Soul's name reference, just don't ask me to trust you lol. I am not religious at all, but since I am playing Amarr I took my name from the biblical passage. Revelations 514 means - And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
Pretty cool with the clones and whatnot. But to add to the discussion I think you have a valid point. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.09.07 19:29:00 -
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Patches The Hyena wrote:No one said CCP is a religious developer or EVE is a religious game. Simply that there are references, and when your making a virtual society as big and deep as EVE you have to do a lot of writing. So its only natural there would be references to and inspiration taken from much of modern society, including something like the bible which is wide spread enough that even non believers are fairly familiar with its content and themes.
Let's not forget what the original point was, though. The other guy claimed that the Amarr were a Christian/Islamic theocracy -- as in, an actual Christian/Islamic theocracy, not just comparable to one -- and I disagreed, as they seem to be all about a random space religion.
As for using Christian/Jewish/Islamic/whatever references, that's fine to a point. Culturally, we have a lot of sayings and so-on which come from the Abrahamic religious texts that have since become divorced from their original meanings, but still maintain a sense of gravity. So naturally CCP is going to draw on some of that. And that's fine.
But, that's not what anyone was seriously arguing against. The only thing I wanted to say is that the Amarr aren't Christian/Islamic theocrats (which would be fundamentally impossible anyway) and that using an explicitly Christian reference like a citation from the Book of Revelations would be absurd for the reasons I've already stated (it's the year ~25,000 CE many thousands or millions of lightyears from Earth).
Revelations 514 wrote:I am not religious at all, but since I am playing Amarr I took my name from the biblical passage. Revelations 514 means - And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
Pretty cool with the clones and whatnot. But to add to the discussion I think you have a valid point.
Less cool taken in context. |
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