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Posted - 2012.09.06 04:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Revelations 5 : 14
Some interpintations of
Ephesians 5 : 14 applies
and Ezikel 5 : 14.
You seem to post a lot of stuff from IRC or whatever, so normally I'd dismiss the idea that 514 is in fact a Christian reference because it'd be really absurd if true, but... seriously? It's seriously a Biblical reference? Or are you just shooting from the hip? |
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Posted - 2012.09.06 05:14:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:How would it be "absurd"? If you don't believe the Bible to be true, then at least it would be an amazing fantasy. The only reason anyone has a problem with it, is because it's "religious". However, no one has issues with books like "His Dark Materials" or "Narnia" until they learn the religious/anti-religious undertones, and even then they don't really make a stink.
My issue with it is that the EVE galaxy is far-flung from our galaxy and tens of thousands of years into the future. It's about as far removed from anything that might currently exist in our 21st century Earth culture as you can imagine. It would be absurd to reference a religion that doesn't even exist in the fictional setting they've crafted.
But now that we know it was his own guesswork we can stop talking about religion. |
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Posted - 2012.09.06 20:15:00 -
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Elijah Revan wrote:false, the Amarrians are indeed and Christian/Islamic community, it specifically says that they branched off of the Catholic Church
Well, they are a cruel, slaveholding, evil empire, so it wouldn't surprise me, but from what I can tell their religion has no explicit connection to 21st century religions.
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Posted - 2012.09.07 17:40:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Hello? Amarr? lmao. As another poster pointed out, EVE has had several biblical references in the past.
So what about Amarr? They have some weird space religion with no mention of any of the religious myth from our own time in it that I can see. Anyway, if you want to pretend like you're shooting guys in the year 25000 for the glory of Allah or Odin or Joseph Smith, knock yourself out.
Oh, and exodus/revelations/trinity are not religious words. They are used by a couple of the Abrahamic religions in their texts, but they're not explicitly religious. I think it's more likely CCP chose those names because of the gravity them seem to have due to their common associations, rather than because CCP is a religious game developer and EVE is a religious game. |
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Posted - 2012.09.07 19:29:00 -
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Patches The Hyena wrote:No one said CCP is a religious developer or EVE is a religious game. Simply that there are references, and when your making a virtual society as big and deep as EVE you have to do a lot of writing. So its only natural there would be references to and inspiration taken from much of modern society, including something like the bible which is wide spread enough that even non believers are fairly familiar with its content and themes.
Let's not forget what the original point was, though. The other guy claimed that the Amarr were a Christian/Islamic theocracy -- as in, an actual Christian/Islamic theocracy, not just comparable to one -- and I disagreed, as they seem to be all about a random space religion.
As for using Christian/Jewish/Islamic/whatever references, that's fine to a point. Culturally, we have a lot of sayings and so-on which come from the Abrahamic religious texts that have since become divorced from their original meanings, but still maintain a sense of gravity. So naturally CCP is going to draw on some of that. And that's fine.
But, that's not what anyone was seriously arguing against. The only thing I wanted to say is that the Amarr aren't Christian/Islamic theocrats (which would be fundamentally impossible anyway) and that using an explicitly Christian reference like a citation from the Book of Revelations would be absurd for the reasons I've already stated (it's the year ~25,000 CE many thousands or millions of lightyears from Earth).
Revelations 514 wrote:I am not religious at all, but since I am playing Amarr I took my name from the biblical passage.
Revelations 514 means - And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
Pretty cool with the clones and whatnot. But to add to the discussion I think you have a valid point.
Less cool taken in context. |
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