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Suits, tanks, and weapons are nanite contructed on demand this same tech that makes a boieng 747 ispace shuttle n 15 minutes. The weapons complexity vs ships is much simpler allowing easier on the field supply with 'generic tank of nanites' to manufacture most of the goods atm. Refinment in tech may require multiple kinds of nanite materials.

We seemingly use fusion power supplies with self extinguishing reactors. Some of the larger fusion bottles are tooled in matter generation by converting higher surrounding materials into nanites and the materals heavier than iron is where the overflow energy is rewasted back into.

Weapons are programmed per shot to maxmizie penetration aid such as resonace and frequencies and in some cases angle of attack vs defenses. Appling this knowledge passively thoguh the subconcious processor though the handel to the gun makes weaposn cause more damage. Suit defenses are also managed on the fly by subconcious so its possible to raise the defense rating without changing the actual mateirals or equipment responsible.

Dropships may have been designed for all envionrments not just temperate. Just temperate is a bit more tempermental to air pressure influences. The fact that something this heavy can float like a ballon and act with much less mass means there is some interia dampner to be fighting with the dropship.

Missiles/Rockets have little distinguishment from eve's point of view, just missiles focus on having larger computers to program the reflex warheads which maximizes flight with smaller payloads. Rockets use less computing power and more isogen powder in the warhead and less pyrite in the fuel tank.

That heavy suit is probably closer to 2 tonns, they're heavy enough LAVs ram into them and get some damage from it and lose thier momentum.

Becuase we found out human eyes hate non-white spectrums it was far better to use stated sensors you mention then resimulate it in a white light based envrionment. This same tech allows eve pilots to see lasers shot by amarrians, and nebulas in a more natural tone.

Im amazed we get the sort of traction we do on sand. Also the problem with LAVs they're to light, give them wings and theyd be able to glide a shot bit. Car isnt exactly couter aerodynamic.

The scout suit is probably over 200lbs most of it in the reactor. The railgun is probably around 40lbs which is very unrealistic for a normal man portable gun. The HMG empty is around 250lbs. The suits have to be probably fought in order to get it to move this process is tiring even with the best reactive sensors it would feel like running though a pool of jello or water or high winds.

BTW we only been interstellarly killing each other for 400 years in New Eden.

very funny. all those fancy words detract from the actually capability of the items.

Limited cpu on missiles??? you could easily have missiles controlled through a quantum subspace link to a master control computer on a command ship, or station 3 sectors away. if it actually required a super computer to not hit a hill.

200 pounds for a scout suit? AWESOME! that's light enough that i am sure some guy in Pakistan can figure out how to make it jump 2.1 feet.

why dose weight even matter? the damn thing can magically cancel out my inertia as i land on the planet FROM ORBIT, but you tell me i cant jump 2.1 feet at the cost of POWER.

you come and explain this stuff with nice fancy words, but all i see is, its make CHEAP, QUICK, and from time tested 400 year old tech.

all of the stuff outlined in your 'lore" could be invented in less than 80 years. we already have bullets that blow up at a pre-determined distance from a target turning them into little frag grenades.

your explanations on how everything works is flawless, because its all to simplistic. Grounded by modern physics (100% wrong) and more likely to be the reality of war in less than 200 years.

its great sci-fi it really is, but its so short of 1000 years its not even funny.

And this is where you lack of eve tech knowledge is beginning to show

This ain't star treck we dont use subspace. Methood of communication ranges from traditional radios to quantum entangled liquid helium-4 routers. We also try not make the missiles too smart, causes issues when firing against though controlled ship defenses. Cant hack a bullet with a rocket motor slapped onto it so to say. Last time we made something too smart it escaped and now considers us food.

Dust mercs are themselves about 200lbs so the scout is total outfit is probably around 540 lbs. Much lighter than a Spartan MK2 about.

About 450 years ago we didnt have fire arms and 500 years ago barely anything that resembles a planetary government barr the amarrians. We're pretty young and most of the tech we have now has been 'inherited.' from very primitive understandings.

Also there is alot of ground tech we're not using as dust 514 soldiers but regular infantry still use. And in comparison to the tech regular infantry use its slowly apperant ours are leauges ahead of thiers.

so the dust 514 universe is sort of similar too the Empire in the Empire series by Asimov, they are sort devolved technologically and tactically? more like using startrek replicators to make colt 1911's because its the only schematic we know how to load into it?

Dont you dare quote star treck tactics. Give me star treck tech and I can destroy the entire federation because they're to stupid to use the tech they have to thier advantage.

We did suffer quite a massive dark age, to the point we almost and in some cases have forgotten about earth. and people in the universe laugh at the idea we might have came though the new eden wormhole. into new eden.

Since the collasp actually there been 2 dark ages.

Jovian empire the most advance of all living new eden races collasped twice already, and the third will make them extinct.

The technology trails we are going though is being scaled up to our standards, uses, and capabilities. It just happens that this these trails is also an arms race between all the races under a semi mutal forced agreement.

Forge Guns, Plasma Rifle, Nova Knife, Plasma Shotgun, Swarm Launchers, Railguns, Drop Uplinks are all relatively new tech (case in point the research behind drop uplinks is less than 6 acutal monsth old). Other things have been repurposed and retooled for our needs, RDVs for example where never meant for combat vehicle drops but our mobility now dictates we need on demand vehicle delivery.

I only used it as a very simple analogy to anchor myself, and show you where i was anchored at.

Basically Dust is a game with 1000 years in the future tech, and a bunch of duct tape holding it together with some super simple technology strapped too it with bailing wire. because advanced tech is actually more like artifacts and relics, war is more likely to be waged with whatever can be spit out from the matter reconstitution factory's without breaking them.


seems like the whole universe was designed around "how can we balance a game with such futuristic gubbins??" I don't know! lets just make it all broken, so we can overlook some things and think less about how such technology is used and countered.

Although I do like the idea of not making missiles too smart that they can't be hacked, but at the current rate Encryption is growing it is outpacing computing to the point that in 100 years you will need to wait 1000 years till you have a computer powerful enough to crack it. and if its communication was based around entanglement, there is no way too mimic the signal and take over the missile because its literally tied to its controller in the most unshakable way.

Although I do like the idea of not making missiles too smart that they can't be hacked, but at the current rate Encryption is growing it is outpacing computing to the point that in 100 years you will need to wait 1000 years till you have a computer powerful enough to crack it. and if its communication was based around entanglement, there is no way too mimic the signal and take over the missile because its literally tied to its controller in the most unshakable way.

We just made a computer that can crack an encryption methood in hours instead of age of the universe.

Realism, gameplay balance...

I'm pretty sure we all know which wins.

lovely history lesson on some interesting and inspired lore.

yet its a poor excuse for the lack of imaginative warfare/game-play.

Now i am left wondering, do all of the eve universe get their warp drives from some super advanced race that is kind enough to offer such tech to further galactic trade?

this would be similar too the Revelation Universe of Alastair reynolds, where relativistic engines near the speed of light have not actually been invented by most races/forgotten and one rather mysterious race of super modified humanoids (they overclocked their brains to the point of needing heat-sinks and over 10,000 calories a day) are the care takers of these drives. Although is such a universe FTL is not possible, the technology for weapons and warfare makes Dust look like rocks and sticks.

tell me of this magic device?

One moment its a few weeks back

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-08/quantum-processor-calculates-15-3x5-about-half-time

With all the eve lore running around here, is there any on terrans? I have heard of the super Wedon the amarrians feared but not much else. I'd love to see some stuff on them.

yeah, unfortunately that tech is still 50 years away, and current encryption that is used in common place is designed to be cracked in case of emergency need. We have encryption technology, if we ever needed it that is too hard to crack.

But the idea off hacking a smart missile just brings along an all new game-play mechanic, a gun that hacks missiles mid fight and sends them to the nearest enemy vessel/sender.

again, not really a lack of tech i suppose, just a lack of imaginative game play mechanics.

We dont know much about them other than the super weapon and the few star gates (which if I remember right all been dismanteled and replaced by ones we build) artifacts are rare as hell and we think the jovians cant reverse engineer them well either. Considering they have such a hard time copying thier own predecessors the sleepers.

are there any books based in the eve universe, I am a lover of all things space opera.


so my original statement of Dust 514 not being in the eve lore was false.

my second assumption, derived form my observation of the lack of technological wizardry, holds true. In the genre of FPS gaming, Dust 514 lacks compelling game-play that could easily be created by the "limitless" potential of the available technology as laid out in the lore. It lacks anything inventive or innovative in the realm of FPS and the only thing it has going for it is the economy and skill system, as well as its Free to play status.

( and i assume the economic boon it will be for all eve players as they suddenly have a consumer market to cater too.)

I will remain hopeful that CCP has something up their sleeves, but the future looks rather bleak.

What did I start reading... so many walls of text.