DUST Search - [feedback] Dropships and the AV vs Tanks debate

Patches The Hyena wrote:

To pass along good news I'll post some stuff CCP nothin said in IRC when I asked him about dropships. Note, this is all me paraphrasing him, and at no point did he guarantee anything, was just talk of ideas they had. So its not set in stone.

-if they buff AV to counter tanks he said they have discussed Buffing dropship HP to maintain current balance.

-the swarm missiles causing dropships to flip over is a bug and is not intended, I assume this also means they'll fix it at some point but the conversation moved on before he said anything about that.

-they plan on adjusting what all vehicle drivers/pilots get WP for. He also said they've discussed a way to give pilots/drivers a share of points for what dropped off troops do. E.g. pilot ferries a squad to C, squad hacks C and said pilot gets +X WP for the transport.

-lastly, he said they want to give us more active and passive defense. Such as, warning alarm when someone is locked on with swarms and chaff for active missile defense.

So dropship love is planned!


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Sin3 DeusNomine Doomheim 142	Posted - 2012.09.06 03:43:00 - [1] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: High end Dropships are currently immune to swarmers. I'd be worried. If a dropship wasn't a game of ISK... Everyone says they're expensive, but really they aren't. Rewards are crap, but what do you want, SP just because you bought a Dropship? They are very useful assets, especially if you can afford to throw them away. I pay 800k Isk per myron build currently Yes they are very very expensive. One guy swarming is no problem for me in my drop ship but you get 4 guys swarming you are really pushing your limits. And begin the game of running half the game if not more. Currently drop ships need some love. I can gain anywhere from 50-100k running on foot with a assult rifle. In my drop ship if I ever break 50k SP I am shitting my pants and going wow what the hell. The isk and SP pay out is just crap. I just had a gunner kill 3 gunnlogis on my turret he gets close to 400k isk while I pull jjust under 200k isk. He gets 100k SP I get 45k SP. AV verses dropships is perfect right now. they do just the right amount of damage. The phsyics help the AVs alot but also make it so that good flyers can escape and pull off some pretty cool manuvors to keep alive. Right now it is a great balance. I can field my 800k myron and if I fly smart I can keep it alive the whole game but if I make a mistake I will be a burnning heap of scrap metal.
Sin3 DeusNomine Doomheim 142	Posted - 2012.09.06 12:36:00 - [2] - Quote I am not saying my WP needs to come from my gunners. But there needs to a source of points For drop ships. I run squad command and will put the defend order on my myron. My team runs 2 people on ground and 1 in gunner seat. I will pick up and drop off the 2 people on ground to key locations. and then hover above them giving them support. From that I achieve squad leader WP if any of my members on the ground gets kills/hack objectives. Even with all the extra points I achieve less SP at the end of the match then my squad members by far. I do hope they do not make just the extra points of CRU in ships. I would like to see drop ships getting rewards for different stuff. Isk ratio I recive is pretty crap also. I am able to keep a drop ship in the air at all times but I am a very good pilot. And usually I am not even making great isk in the end. I can see most pilots being only able to fund a drop ships every once in a awhile. And being that they will never be able to fund a 800k myron set up because they are constantly to poor. Now any dropship pilot can agree the nerf to AVs all of a sudden made flying a drop ship possible and allowed a pilot to do is supportive roll instead of being on the edge of the map going full speed the whole game trying not to get hit by swarms. AV nerf has made drop ships possible. And it is great balance i feel even in my myron it takes one mistake and I am done.
Sin3 DeusNomine Doomheim 142	Posted - 2012.09.06 15:38:00 - [3] - Quote Patches The Hyena wrote: To pass along good news I'll post some stuff CCP nothin said in IRC when I asked him about dropships. Note, this is all me paraphrasing him, and at no point did he guarantee anything, was just talk of ideas they had. So its not set in stone. -if they buff AV to counter tanks he said they have discussed Buffing dropship HP to maintain current balance. -the swarm missiles causing dropships to flip over is a bug and is not intended, I assume this also means they'll fix it at some point but the conversation moved on before he said anything about that. -they plan on adjusting what all vehicle drivers/pilots get WP for. He also said they've discussed a way to give pilots/drivers a share of points for what dropped off troops do. E.g. pilot ferries a squad to C, squad hacks C and said pilot gets +X WP for the transport. -lastly, he said they want to give us more active and passive defense. Such as, warning alarm when someone is locked on with swarms and chaff for active missile defense. So dropship love is planned! Thanks for this info. :) I do hope they still allow swarms to bang you around. Just would like the unexpected insta flip over thing to be resolved had that happen a few times. Where my myron is sitting on its back like a turtle waiting for death.