bad idea
what ******* game do u know with tanks that doesnt have the tank driver using the main gun
dumb suggestion, not a good way to balance tanks

Dropships =/= tanks
Dropships = transport chopper from BF3

Would the tank then be able to seat four or would it have to give up a turret?

So a greater manpower commitment and a more attractive target in exchange for a feature that is (supposedly but not necessarily) a buff for organized teams and a nerf for unorganized ones? This would mean that a squad of four couldn't roll in four tanks anymore and could only really run two tanks (is this intended?). It would also mean that any random who jumped in your tank before your buddy could massively gimp your performance due to a lack of skills and no comms (which is true for dropships but I don't think they are being designed with the same priorities).

With reference to your comparison to dropships. I think that the job breakdown may have more to do with the difference between combat and troop transport roles.

I would be interested to know if tank drivers would consider having two people split these responsibilities would be a buff at all.
Communication delays versus multitasking may make this a nerf even for good teams.

From a practical standpoint I can't see this working without at least the ability to kick or rearrange passengers due to the fact that good communication won't stop people from jumping in your tank and stopping you from teaming up. While I'm intrigued by the idea of vehicles that require crews rather than pilots, so to speak, I'm also concerned that removing a role that many players find rewarding may be a little harsh.

Sounds like 4 seats for all 4 of a full squad.

No im saying if this is done u have made tanks harder to hit cause the driver dont need to sit still to look where hes shooting make the maingun seperate ive just allowed the tank to fire while moving without making a drive mistake and getting stuck. Im not saying something cant be done im saying this aint the way ur making tank warfare easyer in the long run just.harder today cause many havent figured out there not playing cod or bf3

So instead of worry about driving, not getting stuck on terrain, gunning and running reppers/boosters, I can worry about just driving and repping or just worry about gunning. All this is going to do is make tanks MORE powerful, because you have twice the amount of brainpower being used to operate the vehicle, and freeing the gunner from having to drive properly running boosters and reppers to keep the thing alive.

it would be mandatory that the vehicle have a second person. Otherwise it would be useless. One person calling one in would basically have a large, slow, armored crate.

This idea needs to stay up high :D

One thing that needs implementing before this, is some sort of locking system for vehicles. This NEEDS implementing irrelevant quite frankly. As it stands, there's absolutely nothing from stopping people from stealing vehicles worth 3 mill isk or just hopping in to steal assists from you, when you could have a guy on comms instead.

We all must of been low level because only once when we all manage to hit the tank at roughly the same time did we see his shield dip. To keep the story short, we lost. But it was breathtaking sight that even outnumbering the opposition and all with anti-tanking weaponry, we couldn't even scare the tank to retreat, left a funny feeling.

Now im not one to judge whether the tank is overpowered, thats the natural of a rpgmmo type game such as this. Perhaps there is a problem with the noob, standard swarm? Or maybe the lack or any other alternative weaponry available for a low level team? Or tactics?

Why? Why should it be useless without a second person? Please explain this. Its purpose is not served by it being a mandatorily multiplayer vehicle.

This game isn't about tanks. It's about warfare, with a variety of options. Tanks are an option. Some people don't like that one person can pilot it. However, forcing it to be a mandatory co-op vehicle is not going to make things better.

Except... they don't. One good player can do it with a proper AV fit (one in a speedy suit instead of a heavy). One decent player can do it with... another tank. It's not like the tank guy is unique. Most of MY tanking is done in Militia-fit equipment (except the turret and Nanos... I'd LOVE a Militia nano).

i agree. any way when i bought my tank-wich blew up 30 secs after drop in btw-i was trying to drive and shoot at the same time and failed completely. if they do implement this system i hope they make the main gun quicker to turn.

Wait - so - it's detrimental to have things act like they do in Eve what with turrets not being able to track fast moving targets?

Wow. Man, we need to go tell CCP Soundwave this and have him change all of the combat mechanics of Eve Online -right now-

OK, I only read first 3 pages of this thread so if it's already suggested, I'm sorry

How about a compensation ? Let's devide HAV into 2 category a light tank and a heavy tank.

1. Light Tank will operate the same as it was. Single player both driver and gunner just like any other FPS. In turn, this kind of tank will be balanced accordingly. A paper tank just like any FPS tank out there.

2. Heavy Tank will require a squad to man them. Just like what we suggested in this thread. This kind of tank can be uber killing machine like it currently is but need more men to operate, more teamwork require and more rewarding when killed.

PS: This way everyone get what they want. Solo FPS tanker got to drive & shoot. AV tank hater got some easy tank to kill. Hardcore team-based tanker got to work with his friend and a tank that can actually tank something.

This topic is pretty null and void now it seems. What's the point in creating well thought out and decent suggestions for alternatives if all we get is a cheap and nasty fix?.

I liked this idea a lot, but CCP think it's better to appease whiners it seems. At this early stage in a games life the fact that the devs are already pandering to a whiny player base is more than a little worrying frankly.