DUST Search - I Am "Mass"-iveley Pissed Off

Ekull Zekariah wrote:

Is anyone else having serious issues with the Mass Driver?

This is the most bugged weapon in the game! I'll tell you what, create a new weapon in the next build called the My Lil' Pony Driver that shoots marshmallows full of love and happiness. I'll still kill more people with that than this current Mass Driver.

The detonation ratio of the projectiles I shoot is beyond the joke. I decided to count them in my last match because I was SURE I was getting less than half the detonations to the shots. Guess how many I got after emptying an entire gun? Two........BLOODY TWO!!!! I got slaughtered in that game due to the pathetic bugs in this gun.

I'm sorry CCP...........actually, you know what? I'm not sorry CCP.........fix this bloody gun! NOW. I used to love using this thing, but now I don't know what to do. I've spent so much SP on skilling this weapon and it has been a complete waste. And it can't be attributed to lag because my Mass Driver using Corp mates from the US have been reporting a similar performance and they do not experience lag like we do in Australia.

And while I'm on my rant and bringing up lag, PLEASE do something about your netcode. I thought our Pacific worries were over when you brought in the Asia servers. What the hell happened to them? I realise this is a more than somewhat troublesome issue to fix, but please do something for us people on the other half of the globe. We are a smaller lot, but we are just as desperate to play this game when it IS playable.

Lastly, there seems to be an issue with Grenade HP. I'm only using Locus Grenades, but 3 times in the same match tonight I landed a LG next to an enemy and it did nothing to their Shields or Armour. I don't know how often this happens to the general population, but I have experienced this numerous times before and I thought I better bring this to your attention.

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Ekull Zekariah 117	Posted - 2012.09.02 11:23:00 - [1] - Quote Is anyone else having serious issues with the Mass Driver? This is the most bugged weapon in the game! I'll tell you what, create a new weapon in the next build called the My Lil' Pony Driver that shoots marshmallows full of love and happiness. I'll still kill more people with that than this current Mass Driver. The detonation ratio of the projectiles I shoot is beyond the joke. I decided to count them in my last match because I was SURE I was getting less than half the detonations to the shots. Guess how many I got after emptying an entire gun? Two........BLOODY TWO!!!! I got slaughtered in that game due to the pathetic bugs in this gun. I'm sorry CCP...........actually, you know what? I'm not sorry CCP.........fix this bloody gun! NOW. I used to love using this thing, but now I don't know what to do. I've spent so much SP on skilling this weapon and it has been a complete waste. And it can't be attributed to lag because my Mass Driver using Corp mates from the US have been reporting a similar performance and they do not experience lag like we do in Australia. And while I'm on my rant and bringing up lag, PLEASE do something about your netcode. I thought our Pacific worries were over when you brought in the Asia servers. What the hell happened to them? I realise this is a more than somewhat troublesome issue to fix, but please do something for us people on the other half of the globe. We are a smaller lot, but we are just as desperate to play this game when it IS playable. Lastly, there seems to be an issue with Grenade HP. I'm only using Locus Grenades, but 3 times in the same match tonight I landed a LG next to an enemy and it did nothing to their Shields or Armour. I don't know how often this happens to the general population, but I have experienced this numerous times before and I thought I better bring this to your attention.
STB Vermaak Doe 558	Posted - 2012.09.02 11:28:00 - [2] - Quote Mass drivers at least need a total capacity buff. Nuff SaidGäó
Nzuku 17	Posted - 2012.09.02 11:34:00 - [3] - Quote Ekull Zekariah wrote: Is anyone else having serious issues with the Mass Driver? This is the most bugged weapon in the game! I'll tell you what, create a new weapon in the next build called the My Lil' Pony Driver that shoots marshmallows full of love and happiness. I'll still kill more people with that than this current Mass Driver. The detonation ratio of the projectiles I shoot is beyond the joke. I decided to count them in my last match because I was SURE I was getting less than half the detonations to the shots. Guess how many I got after emptying an entire gun? Two........BLOODY TWO!!!! I got slaughtered in that game due to the pathetic bugs in this gun. I'm sorry CCP...........actually, you know what? I'm not sorry CCP.........fix this bloody gun! NOW. I used to love using this thing, but now I don't know what to do. I've spent so much SP on skilling this weapon and it has been a complete waste. And it can't be attributed to lag because my Mass Driver using Corp mates from the US have been reporting a similar performance and they do not experience lag like we do in Australia. And while I'm on my rant and bringing up lag, PLEASE do something about your netcode. I thought our Pacific worries were over when you brought in the Asia servers. What the hell happened to them? I realise this is a more than somewhat troublesome issue to fix, but please do something for us people on the other half of the globe. We are a smaller lot, but we are just as desperate to play this game when it IS playable. Lastly, there seems to be an issue with Grenade HP. I'm only using Locus Grenades, but 3 times in the same match tonight I landed a LG next to an enemy and it did nothing to their Shields or Armour. I don't know how often this happens to the general population, but I have experienced this numerous times before and I thought I better bring this to your attention. As I was reading this I thought, zek had this problem a couple of nights ago, hopefully it gets fixed soon
Ekull Zekariah 117	Posted - 2012.09.02 11:34:00 - [4] - Quote STB Vermaak Doe wrote: Mass drivers at least need a total capacity buff. Nuff SaidGäó Not if you only get a couple of detonations out of them..... But yes, more to shoot would be nice if they fix the issues.
BestNameEva Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 86	Posted - 2012.09.02 11:41:00 - [5] - Quote still make tanks run away like babies
Luther Mandrix Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 53	Posted - 2012.09.02 11:53:00 - [6] - Quote irc heresay said mass driver will get a buff
MofaceKilla Algintal Core Gallente Federation 138	Posted - 2012.09.02 12:50:00 - [7] - Quote Keep crying Zek! I love it as is. More Mkitten kills for me :D
Ekull Zekariah 117	Posted - 2012.09.02 12:56:00 - [8] - Quote F%!@ you, Mkitten, you're gonna spend the night.......OUTSIDE!
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 314	Posted - 2012.09.02 13:05:00 - [9] - Quote BestNameEva wrote: still make tanks run away like babies But skill does not fix issues and bugs
SoLJae ZionTCD Legacy Rising 351	Posted - 2012.09.02 13:23:00 - [10] - Quote Yeah, I really wanted to spec into the Mass Driver, too. I found a trick to using them is to hit plyers dead on. When I run a Mass Driver, I tend to use an advanced Aurum model--think its the Typhoon or Cyclone--and found that if i can hit the enemy squarely, then it's usually a one-hit-kill. However, when firing close or near to the enemy, many times the shells appear not to explode, like the OP mentioned. Had one game where I had about 6 kills with the MDriver and they almost all were the result of direct hits on enemy players, usually fools who would charge me and I would just pop one into their chest.

The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.09.02 14:33:00 - [11] - Quote the splash damage radius is i think way to low. Should be on the same like missile launchers for vehicles.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.09.02 14:48:00 - [12] - Quote they're going to tweak splash radius a slight bit also I thinkt hey're made aware of the explosives projectiles misbehaving.
Ekull Zekariah 117	Posted - 2012.09.03 06:49:00 - [13] - Quote That's good to hear, Wolf. It's obviously an issue across the board. @SoLJae: Yeah, actually, come to think of it I only landed the one direct hit with the Mass in that match. An instant kill too. Although there doesn't seem to be a detonation when it hits them directly. Not that explosion animations is my problem here. If opponents were still copping splash damage from Non-Visible detonations then I wouldn't of had a cry about it. But these Non-detonations result in 0 damage, leaving me wide open. And I know these projectiles were landing right next to the enemies, so they should have copped something.
Antonius Dacinci Bragian Order Amarr Empire 65	Posted - 2012.09.03 06:55:00 - [14] - Quote Just saying same for grenades but they actually explode alot more then they well explode. They will do damage even though it doesn't give you feedback. So your just moaning more then you should and actually don't know how to use the gun. Even if it is broken.
Ekull Zekariah 117	Posted - 2012.09.03 07:40:00 - [15] - Quote Thanks for the wonderful and concise feedback, Antonius. Sounds like you are a guy who knows what they are talking about........
Burger Helper 84	Posted - 2012.09.03 08:35:00 - [16] - Quote oh, the mass driver so fun to use, so useless as a weapon half the rounds don't actually detonate, your clip is tiny (4 is enough to kill maybe one assault suit, maybe) and the total count is a joke (i have to stand on a damn nanohive) if the default driver had a 6 round drum and like 20 to 24 rounds, that would make much more sense also it doesn't really need more damage, it just needs its damage falloff radius increased although apparent the devs have said they're looking into increasing the 100% damage radius of the weapon, basically pushing its falloff further out
Ekull Zekariah 117	Posted - 2012.09.03 09:22:00 - [17] - Quote Yeah, it's good news all around for the radius, and obviously they know about the detonation glitch. But a few more rounds would be helpful as well. I don't know if we need the 6 round clip, since 3 shots can be pretty devastating to an opponent when they actually work. But especially on large open maps you burn thru rounds like an HMG! So yeah, 20-24 rounds seems fair I reckon! As far as the small clip goes, I'm gonna work on my Rapid Reload like crazy after I get my Mass to Lvl 5. You get caught out too many times with that slow gun.
Billi Gene Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 130	Posted - 2012.09.03 12:07:00 - [18] - Quote it would be good to see a new aiming reticule for the MD as well. Something along the lines of a little square that runs along the ground and up walls to approximate where the round will hit. I don't see any reason why this weapon should be the only weapon in the game with a "touchy feelly, the spirits are telling me to fire the gun NOW!" intuitive reticule.
Grotsnek 0	Posted - 2012.09.03 20:01:00 - [19] - Quote Not letting this thread die easily. I think most people give up on the Mass Driver after their very first outing with it, after seeing just how messed up and buggy it is.
Alshadow Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 71	Posted - 2012.09.03 20:30:00 - [20] - Quote once this gun works as intended everyones gonna cry nerf any way so we'll prolly never get a good MD

Phosphorus Arkadios Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2012.09.04 03:05:00 - [21] - Quote Ekull Zekariah wrote: STB Vermaak Doe wrote: Mass drivers at least need a total capacity buff. Nuff SaidGäó Not if you only get a couple of detonations out of them..... But yes, more to shoot would be nice if they fix the issues. Adding more rounds wont help the issue. It's still a connection thing. I've been counting, every one in 3 grenades I throw blow up.
Zero Harpuia Maverick Conflict Solutions 422	Posted - 2012.09.04 05:36:00 - [22] - Quote An issue I have with the MD (and I HAD with the SL and FG) is that getting capacity skill up doesn't reward you every level. Maybe not increasing the count of backup ammo the gun has, but giving the gun an inherent value of +2 ammo per level of Light Weapons Capacity may work. Also, reinforcing the notion that yes, these kitteners don't explode when they really need to. Shot one that JUST missed a guy who had backed himself into a corner, and no damage. It was a Scout suit too, so no matter how well he tanked he shoulda took SOME visible damage. Finally, anyone think that the Breach variant should have either a longer range or faster projectile speed? it feels like the Anti Armor version, and I can already hit the occasional low hanging Dropship with it, so it'd make a bit of sense...
Ekull Zekariah 117	Posted - 2012.09.04 11:00:00 - [23] - Quote Can't say i've tried the Breach variant, but it should be given something above the rest due to its slower ROF. What is the drop off for the MD range anyway? Cos I've seen them thrown at MASSIVE lengths.
Billi Gene Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 130	Posted - 2012.09.04 11:24:00 - [24] - Quote the breach variant might make sense at proto level, but at basic level the breach's reduced damage radius makes it a pain in tha butt. Also to add to the "mis-fire" bug, i've had matches where no shots fired from my MD's did not go off. But in other matches, up to 3 shots per cartridge have fizzed, and that during these matches, fizzled MD rounds were very common. So I'm starting to think its either lag (not likely imho >.<), or perhaps tied into....Hit Detection..... which the DEV's have come forward as saying they think the Instant battle system is bugging out on in some matches. would kinda make sense that some algorithm has decided that the MD "missed" ... dunno... its annoying.. its a great weapon when you run it into someone's face... or pull off an amazingly lucky shot over a pipe but under the roof.
Dr Johnny Fever Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2012.09.05 21:21:00 - [25] - Quote My favorite is sneaking up behind some sniper and putting 6 rounds into his suite from 10 - 15 meters away. No visable damage no splosions nutting... I had to go knife the sucker in the back and killed him in one swing. It seems far worse on elevated terrain and indoors than level open surfaces. Its like the arming mechinism is all out of wack. Also any noticed that the six round variants fire much faster than the four round variants. As if having to reload sooner wasnt enough.
PDXooo 2	Posted - 2012.09.05 23:03:00 - [26] - Quote I've had similar problems... The mass driver - Very Cool weapon BTW - doesn't seem effective, & sometimes, doesn't seem to have any effect at all... Now I'm not 100% accurate with it yet, but still - even in close quarters, the splash damage has no effect at all...
Ekull Zekariah 117	Posted - 2012.09.06 09:43:00 - [27] - Quote I'm gonna try it out tonight with the new hot-fix. Hopefully we see some changes.
Corban Lahnder ZionTCD Legacy Rising 158	Posted - 2012.09.06 16:02:00 - [28] - Quote Mass Driver was busted in the previous builds as well they havent gotten around to cleaning it up.
IR Scifi Algintal Core Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2012.09.07 00:34:00 - [29] - Quote Corban Lahnder wrote: Mass Driver was busted in the previous builds as well they havent gotten around to cleaning it up. I haven't skilled up to MD's this build yet but Corban is right, previous build they were pretty broken too. They had much of the same issues the rest of you are currently reporting.
Drakeios Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.09.07 01:23:00 - [30] - Quote I will say this, and it's been touched on by others, but this isn't a problem with just Mass Drivers it's a problem with grenades. Far too many of them end up being duds. This even occurs with flux and AV grenades. I'm a big grenade guy so I've use them all. AVs work the best but even they aren't 100%. And, yes, sometimes they take damage but just don't explode but there are still too many cases where they don't explode at all.



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