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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:07:00 -
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As we all know, tank drivers have been having a lot of trouble staying alive and getting kills. Apparently their struggles have come to the attention of CCP, and in an attempt to alleviate some stress from their difficult roles, they have opted to nerf all dropsuit HP, along with the damage of most AV weapons. Hopefully, this allows tank drivers to survive more often.
If anyone knows the exact changes, please post them here, or link me to a thread (if there is one) that lists all the current changes.
EDIT: Here is the info, also posted a couple posts down
Extended Downtime Thread
Hotfix notes for 8/31/12:
Temporary balance test changes:
* Removed armor/shield bonuses for all advanced and prototype suits. Now the primary differentiator between the levels is slot count
* 25% damage reduction to swarm launcher and forge gun
* 25% damage reduction to AV grenades
Fixes:
* Fixed swarm launcher max lock-on range to 400M
* Correcting oversight on 'Minddrive' SMG
* Tweaked the base reward level |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
157
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:08:00 -
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Because CCP didn't already state that the change was only temporary and wants everyone in tanks or to die horribly in the explosion of a railgun projectile. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:08:00 -
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All drop suits have the same armour as the standard ones now and AV grenades, Swarm launchers and Forge guns all do 25% less damage. |
a dirty Shisno
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
130
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:09:00 -
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Extended Downtime Thread
Hotfix notes for 8/31/12:
Temporary balance test changes:
* Removed armor/shield bonuses for all advanced and prototype suits. Now the primary differentiator between the levels is slot count
* 25% damage reduction to swarm launcher and forge gun
* 25% damage reduction to AV grenades
Fixes:
* Fixed swarm launcher max lock-on range to 400M
* Correcting oversight on 'Minddrive' SMG
* Tweaked the base reward level |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1904
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:10:00 -
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a dirty Shisno wrote:Extended Downtime ThreadHotfix notes for 8/31/12: Temporary balance test changes: * Removed armor/shield bonuses for all advanced and prototype suits. Now the primary differentiator between the levels is slot count * 25% damage reduction to swarm launcher and forge gun * 25% damage reduction to AV grenades Fixes: * Fixed swarm launcher max lock-on range to 400M * Correcting oversight on 'Minddrive' SMG * Tweaked the base reward level
Thank you, I was wondering where these were posted.
Are they just changing things to change them now? |
NEGA LEAVESEY
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:10:00 -
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Experiencing tank orgy right now, in one game, took out three of the feckers and 2 dropships then CRASH. FTG |
Thor Thunder Fist
Better Hide R Die
79
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:13:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:a dirty Shisno wrote:Extended Downtime ThreadHotfix notes for 8/31/12: Temporary balance test changes: * Removed armor/shield bonuses for all advanced and prototype suits. Now the primary differentiator between the levels is slot count * 25% damage reduction to swarm launcher and forge gun * 25% damage reduction to AV grenades Fixes: * Fixed swarm launcher max lock-on range to 400M * Correcting oversight on 'Minddrive' SMG * Tweaked the base reward level Thank you, I was wondering where these were posted. Are they just changing things to change them now?
they nerf'd AV damage because they fixed vehicle weak points |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:16:00 -
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Thor Thunder Fist wrote:
they nerf'd AV damage because they fixed vehicle weak points
And you're basing that assumption on... ? |
Gelan Corbaine
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:22:00 -
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Thor Thunder Fist wrote:[
they nerf'd AV damage because they fixed vehicle weak points
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! |
NEGA LEAVESEY
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:32:00 -
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Quote:* 25% damage reduction to AV grenades
Fair enough vs the LAV.
Quote:* 25% damage reduction to swarm launcher and forge gun
Completely and utterly taking the ****. |
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Vitriol18
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:46:00 -
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Seriuosly :(
no wonder we couldnt even dent this gunnlogi, christ its gonna be just like the previuos build where everyone got spawn camped by Suryas. |
olssam 62
What The French
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Posted - 2012.08.31 17:01:00 -
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What tanks are in difficult ????  Whenever I cross a moin it done 20 kills 0 deaths with such strength that the grenade AV tickle ccp and now you have to offer nerf+Žs??? Seriously .... good news for campers with tanks ... |
NEGA LEAVESEY
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2012.08.31 17:07:00 -
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Even shite tank drivers can roll around in relative safety unless there's a dedicated effort team wise to take it down. I predict 99% of infantry tonight are gonna play ONE game just to get the 1m SP, then plough it straight into HAVS.
Don't give a tom tit thats this is temporary, it's shows all where CCP want this game to end up. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1904
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Posted - 2012.08.31 17:09:00 -
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I wish CCP would at least state the logic behind these changes, other than "it's temporary". |
Aardwolf Pneumatic
SyNergy Gaming
18
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Posted - 2012.08.31 17:13:00 -
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lolPatch |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.08.31 17:24:00 -
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Aardwolf Pneumatic wrote:lolPatch
this ^
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lolDUST
and just so u guys know Wolfy here IS a tanker and even he is sayin lolPatch so yeaaaaaa GG CCP |
Evane Sa'edi
Celtic Anarchy
62
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Posted - 2012.08.31 18:20:00 -
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What is the CCP logic behind lowering the damage of the Swarm warheads? It took multiple locks and hits to even damage most t1 tanks before the change now its going to be impossible? WHY The only use for a swarm launcher is anti vehicle, this 'temp' change doesnot test anything new that furthers the game that I can see.?? |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.08.31 18:29:00 -
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Because CCP is balancing around good teams, not around fail fits. Tanks were too easy to solo before, now they require teamwork. Missing from those notes is forge gun is getting some range back. Considering I was killing all sorts of tanks with militia swarms and av grenades, this seems like it will actually require using good AV to counter good tanks. Plus RE traps are more attractive now. I still think missile damage and especially shake should be toned down in tandem. Not going to lie, those too cheap to buy a militia dropship are going to be slaughtered like lambs. |
Thor Thunder Fist
Better Hide R Die
79
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Posted - 2012.08.31 18:43:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:Thor Thunder Fist wrote:
they nerf'd AV damage because they fixed vehicle weak points
And you're basing that assumption on... ?
I read it somewhere on these forums and my little drive in my tank confirmed swarms hitting my rear did more damage then swarms hitting my side or front
EDIT: Search is your friend
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Ahem from IRC.
'CCP Wolfman> We're nerfing AV damage across the board and we fixed vehicle weak spots that where not working.
CCP Wolfman> We're also going to change how the HMG works, you're going to like it.
unknown CCP> We also know that shotguns where overbuffed well be toning them back as well. '
EDIT: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=281489#post281489 linkies to the thread that post is from |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1904
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Posted - 2012.08.31 18:47:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote: Plus RE traps are more attractive now.
Sure, let me run back to my nanohive three or four times as I place enough RE's to do any kind of damage, and while I'm at it I'll sit next to my shining beacon and pray to god no one sees me.
Epic. |
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fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.08.31 19:09:00 -
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So is dust the fps turning into world of tanks ? or a battle field rip off only with more armour ? |
Skilfer
Nova Corps Marines
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Posted - 2012.08.31 19:30:00 -
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6 players with swarms, I was using an assault forge gun up against a single drop ship. We couldn't even break through its shields the entire match. This adjustment severally destabilized the environment. 25% reduction was WAY too much for the primary anti-vehicle weapons (not AV grenades). My forge gun is better suited for anti infantry now and obviously does terrible at that too. Please remove these "temporary" changes as soon as possible. |
Terram Nenokal
BetaMax.
115
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Posted - 2012.08.31 19:58:00 -
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Shoot the tanks in the back. |
kalahari ilkeston
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2012.08.31 21:17:00 -
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olssam 62 wrote:What tanks are in difficult ???? Whenever I cross a moin it done 20 kills 0 deaths with such strength that the grenade AV tickle ccp and now you have to offer nerf+Žs??? Seriously .... good news for campers with tanks ...
tank camps?? so avoid them, dont chase them down making some half assed effort, make them come to where your team is camped |
Alamo TAYLOR1
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2012.09.01 00:00:00 -
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so tanks are not unstoppable anymore ****! I've been putting all my sp to vehicle command have'nt even leveled anything else
i saved 4.5million isk just to buy tanks!! now they can be destroyed :( |
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