Why have you nerfed heavies?! All heavies now have 650 armour, which must be a statistical error, but regardless all the heavies have lost a lot of armour? And forges and swarms have lost a LOT of damage. Swarms now do 100 less damage per rocket and forge guns lost 25% of their damage?! Why has this been done? How will we fight tanks now?

2 guys

3 AV grenades, and a few advanced swarm launcher rounds after getting in correct position to do so.

2 guys

3 AV grenades, and a few advanced swarm launcher rounds after getting in correct position to do so.

Not just heavies... all suits.

AKA, run around all match with a weapon that can't hit infantry in the hopes that the tank breaks cover long enough for you to get off a couple good shots, before getting sniped.

<3 AV

they actually did reduce the health for the heavies and nerfed one of the heavy only weapons .... is there a reason to go as heavy or are we just big slow expensive targets now?
i understand they are testing it and it might all go back as it was but it's a big hit towards heavies then other classes.
especially me when one of my character is a heavy forge gun spec and my other is a assault swarm launcher spec. i made it my purpose to be anti tank because how OP they are and now i feel like I'm dead no matter what

Probably because most heavies I come across either have an assault rifle or smg equipped and don't bother going antitank

Probably because most heavies I come across either have an assault rifle or smg equipped and don't bother going antitank

Let's see.
1 well fitted AV Heavy - 250k ISK.
3 well fitted people in a tank - 2 mil+ ISK.

HEY GUYTHHHH! HOW COME I CANT KILL A TANK? I HAVE AN AV GRENADE BUT IT NO WORK.

How the kitten are we supposed to afford our AV stuff if we don't kill people from time to time ? This stuff aint cheap and in case you haven't noticed heavies in AV fit life expectancies aint exactly high among all the dust bunnies.

Av grenades *seem* to do less damage too. Maybe now its only x8 more dam rather than x10

Just an idea but they give you free assault suits so you can earn isk and sp and use that for your custom heavy fit or are they not as good as these so very weak heavie builds

Just because we are clones doesn't mean we should be kittening clones of each other .... I put my points into heavy suits so I damn well am going to use em .

I am simply baffled...just baffled.... AV needed a buff, not a nerf, anyhoo this will no longer be a FPS but tank wars....CCP loves vehicles so I suppose I should have suspected it was going to go this way...A temp fix?? Now swarms can't kill LAVs, and prototype tanks will not be killed, unless fighting another tank or the driver is a complete kitten...

If you cant afford to lose it don't use it, there are options there for you , your choice you cant have it all ways, if you just want to earn isk and sp use what they give you if your with your corp or friends put your best on.

No disrespect inteded, but thats how I do it but as I say it's up to you.

/facepalm .... reading comprehension fail . Cant afford AV .......kill people to afford AV. What's not to understand ? Both posts say THE EXACT SAME THING .

This is going to go on forever , you were moaning about making money then use free suits to make money so you dont have to replace your heavy suit that costs money there fore useing the free suit you wont lose money that sounds simple enough to me .

Not the suit you want to use but it will pay for the suit you want to use and not cost anything how hard is that to understand.

It isn't the heavy suit that he is worried about losing, it is the Forge Gun that kills his wallet and earnings.

We done here?

Anti-tank aint cheap

Ahem from IRC.

'CCP Wolfman> We're nerfing AV damage across the board and we fixed vehicle weak spots that where not working.
CCP Wolfman> We're also going to change how the HMG works, you're going to like it.
unknown CCP> We also know that shotguns where overbuffed well be toning them back as well. '

2 guys

3 AV grenades, and a few advanced swarm launcher rounds after getting in correct position to do so.

Lol
So play as a team, draw the tank into a trap instead of doing your own thing and individually charging. Eg do more camping, defend a spot and make them d o the lone wolf charging