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Mo Gallas Gentralde
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.31 03:04:00 -
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How do you compare a homophobic war to the US revolution?... quite clearly the Gallente are homophobic according to the lore.... while the US revolution was because if the US was cut in half it would easily be reclaimed by European countries seeking to discredit the nation as a whole. |
Mo Gallas Gentralde
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.31 03:11:00 -
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Edit: Okay.. now I've got the right quote.. >.<
Van Aewulf wrote:Oops. The US Revolution was against Britain my friend, the US Civil War was between the Union and the Confederacy where the Union forced the Confederacy back into the Union. Basically, the Federation wants to force the Caldari (read: confederates) back into the Federation (read: union).
I'm not saying it's 100% analogous but it's close.
I'm not sure what you mean by homophobic war though?
These kinds of mistakes happen when you're trying to split attention between homework, posting.. and want for sleep. >.<;;
double Edit: No wait.. wrong quote.. what am I posting ???.. >>.....<<
Have to re-read through the text now. |
Mo Gallas Gentralde
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.31 03:40:00 -
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Van Aewulf wrote:I'm not sure what you mean by homophobic war though?
Okay so, basically what this is saying is that two nations developed on entirely different planets. These are entire planets by the way.. and they share population and gene pools on a daily basis... similar to countries in Europe.
Being that they are ENTIRE PLANETS one would assume that there would be about 20+ different races amongst each planet before they regained their intestellar technology. (cause lore states they lost technology when the wormhole collapsed I believe).... which I just made a point for myself to go read up on the earth chronicles...
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Earth
... joy.. *sigh*
When a game gets too much lore, it becomes a major headache to talk about.
Anyway... either they have been purging their populations on a regular basis to keep only "one race" originating from each planet, or they're doing something to all the other minorities... oh wait.. I think there were like... Four minorities left on Gallente Prime right?
Not to mention that there is an entire planetary void between the planets that can act like a massive enviro-political barrier. Countries on Earth could be decisively separated by something as simple as a river, and live peacefully next to each other.. but here.. hundreds of thousands of miles is "too close"... :/
Edit: Thousands of years have passed since the closing of the EVE gate, this would give plenty of time for divergant races to arise. |
Mo Gallas Gentralde
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:30:00 -
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Van Aewulf wrote:Unfortunately you're clearly misunderstanding a lot of the lore. The Intaki and Mannar don't live on Gallente Prime, they have their own homeworlds. Two separate planets joined in a Federation, like the northern and southern states. They may as well have been two separate planets what with slavery and what not. The south left the union and the north forced the south back into the union. The gallente are doing the same, but they don't even have the moral justification of slavery. Homophobic means anti-gay friend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomophobiaGenocide is not something the Caldari partake in. Your Gallente homeworld bombarded and invaded our homeworld committing genocide of millions of our own people to maintain control. Your people murdered ours on our own homeworld. I used the wrong roots of the word. Homo refers to humanity's history, and somehow homophobia, the fear of humans became culturally known as a fear of gay/lesbian behavior... Xenophobia is what I meant to write.
I roughly calculate there being.. 6,000 years between the settling of Caldari/Gallente, and their first contact.
If minorities do not naturally exist on these planets the only explanation can be purging by both parties.
Another point of note is that within 50 years.. they went from faulty space travel to the creation of stargates. Imagine how that would be like on earth... to discover how to use horses, then about 4 years later build cars designed like those of today. Also of note.. the jump drive was developed AFTER they discovered the Intaki and Mannar... in other words they somehow managed commuication between planetary systems with nothing but basic thruster systems.... what?....Van Aewulf wrote:
Jump drive technology was rediscovered jointly by both efforts between the Gallente and the Caldari about 500 years before the start of the Caldari-Gallente war:
Shortly after jump gate technology was jointly discovered by the Gallente and the Caldari a little over five hundred years before the Federation formed, the Caldari corporations had started their own interstellar surveying and colonization, separate from that conducted by the Gallente. It was these colonies, kept as a secret from the Gallenteans, that became the source of friction between the Gallenteans and the Caldari, culminating in the latterGÇÖs defection from the Federation and an ensuing war between the two races.
Then suddenly, after 300+ years of coexisting peace they decide that their neighbor is untrustworthy and has to have sanctions applied against them... yet again this feels faulty. That would be like the US suddenly placing embargos against Europe for attempting to send missionaries to Africa.. or something like that.
Countries with amicable relations for so long don't tend to go off the handle at one another like the lore says. :/ |
Mo Gallas Gentralde
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.31 04:58:00 -
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My references of time come from here
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Age_of_Expansion
It's a timeline that includes highlights for the Gallente and Caldari.
Also, as to the "hidden colonies" bit... the only way this could happen is if Gallente was giving Caldari 100% of its trust. Why? Because if they were distrustful of each other even just a tiny bit, they would have spies in the government of the other race. After 300 years of contact such a thing would be trivial for both parties.
Not to mention that in space, the void allows one to see public transportation quite clearly.. and if thousands of tons of materials are being transported out of a refueling hub, yet there are no records of the vehicle's cargo at its next "destination" and no reports of overt piracy in a region... that would send red flags everywhere that a structure was being built. Countries always look for these kinds of things due to the fact that the structure could potentially be military in nature. Not only that, but communication signals steadily coming from unauthorized regions of space, and supply lines incoming with no registered point of origin would also start the same flags up, as the new colonies would need trade in order to survive and prosper. |
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