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Icy Tiger 496	Posted - 2012.08.28 14:48:00 - [1] - Quote As a full time LAV driver with a 200 000 ISK fully-loaded Methana, I'm getting sick of AV grenades. Yes, I know that they're meant to be used for this purpose, but when any player can just grab a couple and toss them at my vehicle for an easy kill, it's pretty annoying. I can take one easily, but two are extremely hard to survive unless I can time my armor repairer just right. So I'm asking for a slight nerf to the "homing missle" effect that was put on it, or their damage. Keep them strong enough to kill militia LAV's with one hit, but no more. And for clarification, I'm talking about standard AV grenades. Also, there needs to be a driver lock on vehicles. I regularly switch to my turret seat to take out targets nearby. and when some a-hole wants to take a joyride in my LAV with me nervously sitting the the passenger seat, it's annoying as ****. Especially when thy ignore the fact that I have reppers on it, and just leave it at the first swarm hits. The End.
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 393	Posted - 2012.08.28 14:58:00 - [2] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: As a full time LAV driver with a 200 000 ISK fully-loaded Methana, I'm getting sick of AV grenades. Yes, I know that they're meant to be used for this purpose, but when any player can just grab a couple and toss them at my vehicle for an easy kill, it's pretty annoying. I can take one easily, but two are extremely hard to survive unless I can time my armor repairer just right. So I'm asking for a slight nerf to the "homing missle" effect that was put on it, or their damage. Keep them strong enough to kill militia LAV's with one hit, but no more. And for clarification, I'm talking about standard AV grenades. Also, there needs to be a driver lock on vehicles. I regularly switch to my turret seat to take out targets nearby. and when some a-hole wants to take a joyride in my LAV with me nervously sitting the the passenger seat, it's annoying as ****. Especially when thy ignore the fact that I have reppers on it, and just leave it at the first swarm hits. The End. I'm generally ok with AV nades, perhaps the cheap ones get a small nerf...small I agree, yo should have the option to lock your vehicle from teammates and they would have to hack a vehicle if it was locked, maybe a 1/3 of the time to hack an enemy vehicle but if the owner dies, the lock is removed..
EMPTY SL0T Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 41	Posted - 2012.08.28 15:03:00 - [3] - Quote Do the LAV's come with violins and tissues? I'm just askin'.... M.T.
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.08.28 15:08:00 - [4] - Quote upgrade to the rolling fortress called limbus. Thats all what i can say. natural damage resistance+armor reistance amplifiers=4 forgegun hits till you blow up. In the last build i even survived 2 sagaris railgun hits try to top that. And i dont know if its in this build the same but the limbus couldnt catch on fire even when you had only like 100 armor HP left. i think the enemy willl need around 5 Av grenades to blow it up.
Ignatius Crumwald Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 475	Posted - 2012.08.28 15:09:00 - [5] - Quote -No. -Yes.
VigSniper101 204	Posted - 2012.08.28 15:13:00 - [6] - Quote Did someone one ask for; Magnavolt
Anatoly Gasputin Doomheim 40	Posted - 2012.08.28 15:21:00 - [7] - Quote I am a dedicated user of those (infamous) AV grenades and after a few 'free kills' I noticed that they do quite a lot of damage. The starting AV grenades destroy militia LAV's on one hit and some of the tanks that I've seen get destroyed with 5-6. Those might be militia / otherwise poorly fitted. As a solution I might suggest that LAV drivers don't stop for too long and that the 'homing' distance to be reduced ever so slightly. Tank drivers could do better with fittings. I've seen tanks that I couldn't even scratch with 3 AV grenades.
Kincate Algintal Core Gallente Federation 27	Posted - 2012.08.28 15:26:00 - [8] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: As a full time LAV driver with a 200 000 ISK fully-loaded Methana, I'm getting sick of AV grenades. Yes, I know that they're meant to be used for this purpose, but when any player can just grab a couple and toss them at my vehicle for an easy kill, it's pretty annoying. I can take one easily, but two are extremely hard to survive unless I can time my armor repairer just right. So I'm asking for a slight nerf to the "homing missle" effect that was put on it, or their damage. Keep them strong enough to kill militia LAV's with one hit, but no more. And for clarification, I'm talking about standard AV grenades. Also, there needs to be a driver lock on vehicles. I regularly switch to my turret seat to take out targets nearby. and when some a-hole wants to take a joyride in my LAV with me nervously sitting the the passenger seat, it's annoying as ****. Especially when thy ignore the fact that I have reppers on it, and just leave it at the first swarm hits. The End. +1
Star Killer 420 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2012.08.28 16:14:00 - [9] - Quote AV - ANTI- VEHICLE ...... There Perpose is in the title...... Stop using standard LAV's & maybe you won't get blown up so much
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.28 16:20:00 - [10] - Quote My Saga laughs at AV grenades. You are always better off driving away than switching seats, ALWAYS.

Wakko03 Better Hide R Die 134	Posted - 2012.08.28 16:39:00 - [11] - Quote Stop trying to run people over, you took the risks of bringing it within the limited throwing distance of an av grenade, unless they changed something and you can throw the advanced level grenades more than 5-10 meters. My fat suit costs more than your LAV, so does that mean I automatically win against it.... cost is the rally cry of the ones who need a vehicle with unlimited ammo against low level players in order to justify their "skills".
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.08.28 17:13:00 - [12] - Quote So, you drive at people with AV nades, and then you jump into the most exposed position you could find on your whole vehicle. And you want things nerfed? You might be specialising in LAV's, but they're never going to take a lot, and the "turret" is free headshots.
Dane Stark Golgotha Group 178	Posted - 2012.08.28 17:22:00 - [13] - Quote Maximus Stryker wrote: I agree, yo should have the option to lock your vehicle from teammates and they would have to hack a vehicle if it was locked, maybe a 1/3 of the time to hack an enemy vehicle but if the owner dies, the lock is removed.. I agree with the lock and the removal of lock if owner dies - no hacking - defeats the purpose of locking IMO. I hate when this has happened to me. Usually, for me though, it's cause I spawn a jeep to get some where - get out - and intend to get back in after I have accomplished my goal. Some fool runs a long and steals my LAV while I'm busy. That sux - I have only used stock builds so it's not so painful, but if you are vested in a vehicle such as OP, then I would be ****ing pissed.
RedBleach 50	Posted - 2012.08.29 05:22:00 - [14] - Quote I feel the same about my Dropships, I imagine that with more skills in my upgrades to armor and shields I'll be even better with my fitings. Swarmers own my butt every time. I can get out of the area of a Forger (to slow to aim) but the swarmers still take me out. With 300-500k builds they are damned expensive - and not really worth it for the cash payout we have now.. but that is off topic. Sorry, deal with it. I want counter measures - dont nerf anything, just give me ways to adapt. What would help you Adapt? I would like some flares. U?
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.29 05:40:00 - [15] - Quote Equip a suitcase.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.08.29 05:46:00 - [16] - Quote lol @ OP and LOL @ ppl that STILL try to run ppl over thanks for the kills AV workin as intended :D
STB Vermaak Doe 558	Posted - 2012.08.29 05:51:00 - [17] - Quote Since av nades ohk standard vehicles, it seems fair that vehicles (including modules) add up to the same cost of the weapon that ohk them
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2012.08.29 06:12:00 - [18] - Quote You need to not be so close to enemy infantry that they're able to hit you with these things.
TEBOW BAGGINS FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET 549	Posted - 2012.08.29 06:14:00 - [19] - Quote i saw omnipotents zitro's LAV tank 1
carl von oppenheimer Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2012.08.29 06:23:00 - [20] - Quote Nades are just fine as they are, dodging cars as a sniper is already annoying enough, I never need to dodge missiles mind you but the car it self ...

TEBOW BAGGINS FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET 549	Posted - 2012.08.29 06:31:00 - [21] - Quote after one AV nade it should be the clue that it's time to move.. just sayin
Seran Jinkar Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 214	Posted - 2012.08.29 07:37:00 - [22] - Quote LOL :) I agree and still I think that it might be the purpose of AV nades to have the purpose of stopping people running over every pedestrian. Or at least make them think about it. My GF tells me everytime we have been killed by an AV nade that I DID NOT HAVE TO try to run over them. Actually it's pure stupidity of myself .. same as running head on on a scout suit with a shotgun.
Blowtorch McHurrypants 4	Posted - 2012.08.29 07:47:00 - [23] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: Also, there needs to be a driver lock on vehicles. I regularly switch to my turret seat to take out targets nearby. and when some a-hole wants to take a joyride in my LAV with me nervously sitting the the passenger seat, it's annoying as ****. Especially when thy ignore the fact that I have reppers on it, and just leave it at the first swarm hits. Um, those A-holes are trying to assist you in piloting and manning a multi-person vehicle. If the LAV was meant to be driven and fired by the same person, I'm pretty sure they would have included the controls to do so. Get a teammate in your "pro" LAV and quit bitching. Maybe your teammates find it annoying when you drive off solo in a vehicle as they sprint towards it ready to help you? Don't you just hate it when other people in a team game try to help each other?... Just just... go play CoD or something please.
Timothy Reaper ZionTCD Legacy Rising 321	Posted - 2012.08.29 08:27:00 - [24] - Quote Blowtorch McHurrypants wrote: Um, those A-holes are trying to assist you in piloting and manning a multi-person vehicle. If the LAV was meant to be driven and fired by the same person, I'm pretty sure they would have included the controls to do so. Get a teammate in your "pro" LAV and quit bitching. Maybe your teammates find it annoying when you drive off solo in a vehicle as they sprint towards it ready to help you? Don't you just hate it when other people in a team game try to help each other?... Just just... go play CoD or something please. Good point, sir. +1 There's too many people trying to play the game as if it were a single player campaign. When Dust is released such players will have trouble finding work, because who wants a teammate who won't play as a team?
Kyromus Lyndis Kytaar Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 27	Posted - 2012.08.29 09:16:00 - [25] - Quote Timothy Reaper wrote: Blowtorch McHurrypants wrote: Um, those A-holes are trying to assist you in piloting and manning a multi-person vehicle. If the LAV was meant to be driven and fired by the same person, I'm pretty sure they would have included the controls to do so. Get a teammate in your "pro" LAV and quit bitching. Maybe your teammates find it annoying when you drive off solo in a vehicle as they sprint towards it ready to help you? Don't you just hate it when other people in a team game try to help each other?... Just just... go play CoD or something please. Good point, sir. +1 There's too many people trying to play the game as if it were a single player campaign. When Dust is released such players will have trouble finding work, because who wants a teammate who won't play as a team? To comment on the original posters post, LAVs are intended as quick transport, using speed to avoid attacks, like AV grenades. I've seen people adapt to people on a match using AV grenades. You know what they do? Stop trying to run people over and getting blown up. This is a team game. On another point even in a squad based game lone wolves are sometimes required. But a lot of people are in the cod mindset, so most players are lone wolfing it, which is a problem, but eventually I feel those people shall be weeded out for the cooperative mindset to sink in.
VoidOpz Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.08.29 09:18:00 - [26] - Quote Just the other day I finally unlocked a full HAV Gunnlogi with Large missile launcher and sweet do-dads that all in all set me back around 400-500k. Needless to say I was so excited with my new monster and was counting the seconds for it to deploy when all of a sudden I was Dead! Silly me... I hadn't realized it was quite a BIG monster and had crushed me The worst part was that one of my own team ran up, did NOT heal me ( he was in a Logi suit ) and stole it as I looked on in horror... So yea... Driver lock FTW! At least for possibly 30 seconds or so even after your dead
TEBOW BAGGINS FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET 549	Posted - 2012.08.29 09:23:00 - [27] - Quote Timothy Reaper wrote: Blowtorch McHurrypants wrote: Um, those A-holes are trying to assist you in piloting and manning a multi-person vehicle. If the LAV was meant to be driven and fired by the same person, I'm pretty sure they would have included the controls to do so. Get a teammate in your "pro" LAV and quit bitching. Maybe your teammates find it annoying when you drive off solo in a vehicle as they sprint towards it ready to help you? Don't you just hate it when other people in a team game try to help each other?... Just just... go play CoD or something please. Good point, sir. +1 There's too many people trying to play the game as if it were a single player campaign. When Dust is released such players will have trouble finding work, because who wants a teammate who won't play as a team? the OP does treat it like that, trust me, I've seen this... "pro... in action.. A solo heavy suit running accross the volcanic Ambush map is always a comedy to watch..
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 437	Posted - 2012.08.29 09:44:00 - [28] - Quote Timothy Reaper wrote: Good point, sir. +1 There's too many people trying to play the game as if it were a single player campaign. When Dust is released such players will have trouble finding work, because who wants a teammate who won't play as a team? Yes, cause a highly mobile missile launcher platform at the cost of one team member is in no way an asset for a team. What are you smoking and where can I get it?
carl von oppenheimer Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2012.08.29 09:47:00 - [29] - Quote VoidOpz wrote: Just the other day I finally unlocked a full HAV Gunnlogi with Large missile launcher and sweet do-dads that all in all set me back around 400-500k. Needless to say I was so excited with my new monster and was counting the seconds for it to deploy when all of a sudden I was Dead! Silly me... I hadn't realized it was quite a BIG monster and had crushed me The worst part was that one of my own team ran up, did NOT heal me ( he was in a Logi suit ) and stole it as I looked on in horror... So yea... Driver lock FTW! At least for possibly 30 seconds or so even after your dead Welcome to new eden !
Timothy Reaper ZionTCD Legacy Rising 321	Posted - 2012.08.29 10:32:00 - [30] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: Timothy Reaper wrote: Good point, sir. +1 There's too many people trying to play the game as if it were a single player campaign. When Dust is released such players will have trouble finding work, because who wants a teammate who won't play as a team? Yes, cause a highly mobile missile launcher platform at the cost of one team member is in no way an asset for a team. What are you smoking and where can I get it? My comment wasn't about the vehicle, it was about the driver. The jeep isn't of much use if it's a burned-out shell because the driver tried to use it as a battering ram or his own personal missle-lauching platform. By the way, I don't smoke. Perhaps you should quit, because it seems to have affected your reading comprehension skills.

Ferocitan 22	Posted - 2012.08.29 11:13:00 - [31] - Quote still think homing allways was stupid. make them stick to vehicles on a successfull throw. no prob.
AcmeBoy The Southern Legion 1	Posted - 2012.08.29 11:32:00 - [32] - Quote I used AV grenade the other day hit the driver left the LAV intact. LOL One in a Million chance thing I guess.


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