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Amazigh Stormrage
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.27 23:31:00 -
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The Game is FAR from ready!
What we are doing right now, is assisting CCP and there development team in solving problems, balancing the game, giving notifications of what could be better, what should be down graded etc etc to make this FPS / RPG-MMO a topofthe line game.
in other words; stop crying and whining like a kiddo that got his lolipop stolen about what games are better funnier, better graphic, larger E-peen or what the F else.
WE ARE TESTING AND ASSISTING in the development PERIOD. |
TheAzureDragon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.08.27 23:33:00 -
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+1 to you sir just because i agree (although i guess i'm not "most players") |
wathak 514
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2012.08.27 23:39:00 -
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TheAzureDragon wrote:+1 to you sir just because i agree (although i guess i'm not "most players") I speak for anyone who is actually hlping with the test +1 |
TheAzureDragon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.08.27 23:44:00 -
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I actually try my best to help out as much as i can especially with this game, because I've been wanting to get in the beta for the longest time (then my friend gave me his key), and since the first day I got on until the beta's over, i'll do my best to help out in whatever way i can this game does have great potential |
Asai Marcel
4
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Posted - 2012.08.28 04:02:00 -
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Amazigh Stormrage wrote:Most of the DUST players got acces to the game trough our EVE-Online account.
The Game is FAR from ready>
What we are doing right now, is assisting CCP and there development team in solving problems, balancing the game, giving notifications of what could be better, what should be down graded etc etc to make this FPS / RPG-MMO a topofthe line game.
in other words; stop crying and whining like a kiddo that got his lolipop stolen about what games are better funnier, better graphic, larger E-peen or what the F else.
WE ARE TESTING AND ASSISTING in the development PERIOD.
+1 |
Patches The Hyena
204
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Posted - 2012.08.28 08:05:00 -
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To add...
Something people have forgotten is the largest hurdle to Dust being released is all network related, not gameplay. While everyone complains about hit registering and crying whenever CCP moves forward without fixing this or that, CCP is trying to male sure EVE and Dust can exist together on the same server and interact. If they can't make that happen it doesn't matter how smooth it plays, it will be a failure because it doesn't deliver on the primary promise.
This is why the Beta was pushed out so early, with several aspects and features in an obvious Alpha state. If the networking can't be worked out Dust dies regardless of anything else. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.28 08:16:00 -
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When most codes were given out via registration & pshome, the fact most players still here play EvE should be highlighting an alarming problem. This game isn't pleasing it's target audience "yet". Stick that in your "don't whine" pipe and smoke it. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.28 08:52:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:When most codes were given out via registration & pshome, the fact most players still here play EvE should be highlighting an alarming problem. This game isn't pleasing it's target audience "yet". Stick that in your "don't whine" pipe and smoke it. I don't think most players really are solely from EVE, I think it's probably a rather mixed community. Perhaps the majority of vocal testers are from EVE.
Edit: Also, I feel that this is relevant. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.08.28 11:33:00 -
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I think most of the EVE players understand DUST because they know how CCP works
Its the rest of em which have too much sugar in the morning that dont understand its a beta and not a demo |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.28 12:12:00 -
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Yeah, Dust is dead already then aye. |
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BestNameEva
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
86
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Posted - 2012.08.28 12:38:00 -
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Really? cause I'm having a blast so far Aaahahaha, blast get it!?...... but honestly I find it fun. I haven't played Eve myself but I always liked the look of the crazy depth and personalization, and Dust looks to be something similar. I think CCP will come through with something sweet.......and free +100 points |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.28 12:51:00 -
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Hoping there's more like you best. I think I'm just warped by the poisonous population of our beta. |
Amazigh Stormrage
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2012.08.28 12:51:00 -
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Well, every person i spoke in DUST 9and i've spoken alot of em, are actual EVE players, not a single non-EVE player, so i asume MOST (not all) are players from EVE-Online> :D |
BestNameEva
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
86
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Posted - 2012.08.28 13:00:00 -
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Amazigh Stormrage wrote:Well, every person i spoke in DUST 9and i've spoken alot of em, are actual EVE players, not a single non-EVE player, so i asume MOST (not all) are players from EVE-Online> :D
Sony must be happy |
Zero Harpuia
Maverick Conflict Solutions
422
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Posted - 2012.08.28 17:52:00 -
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Question posed to the people who say 'EVE players are not the core audience': why the hell are they not? The core audience is FPS players. EVE players and FPS players are not exclusive, its a Venn diagram with a large overlap. personally, I got into EVE from my TF2 buddies, and if the EVE players didn't WANT to play an FPS, they didn't sign up for the Beta. Simple as.
On a related note: Tank drivers are not all 'EVEtards', all people who ask for prone aren't 'CoDbabies', and those two derogatory terms aren't exclusive. I've seen people who are both simultaneously. When we speak to each other, can we just talk about what is being talked about, and not go 'well you must just play EVE' or 'You Ritalin fueled CoD *****', it gets old when the very point of threads is killed for the sake of pseudo racist remarks.
Venting rant over
OP: We need to sticky this thread, it'd do a world of good to stop some pointless threads. Anyone remember the thread about marketability? |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.28 18:16:00 -
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EvE players make up a tiny weeny fraction of FPS gamers. No they are not mutually exclusive. But they are certainly the minority. Idea is you play EvE while others play Dust. Again not exclusively.That's why it's not designed for EvE players. Next problem comes when EvE players buy a ps3 just for Dust, even if they don't play FPS. I mean wtf? I don't get that... Then we change the game to suit them? "I'm a Logi bro. I need more health cos I die a lot. I play Logi because I'm not very good at FPS but want to contribute to the team" bah. Nubs nubs nubs. You die a lot because your bad. Thanks for makin my assault chars pretty pointless... Can you stick to your spaceships please? Support the team by producing "stuff".
So that's why people "whine and moan." Because they die. However it seems a great deal of people see any complaint or ask for a nerf as whining an moaning. THESE are the people who arent helping. "your view doesn't count because you moan". What kinda attitude is that? |
Amazigh Stormrage
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2012.08.28 19:18:00 -
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who said eve players only play eve? and not other games including FPS'games ? i for a fact also play CS, halflife, quake, halo, command and conquer, i play lot of types, don't place people in a cabin. in fact i can easly say that EVE players behave more adult then any other gamers focusing on their own little game. prolly because they HAVE to use their brains in games.
+ ur missing thewhole point of this topic,actualy hasn't got to do anything with it, so leave it and go cry somewhere else. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.28 19:23:00 -
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Read what I posted again. You can play both. But 500k people is a minority when there's 11million CoD players. Even if all 500k played CoD. |
Swinging Donkey
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.08.28 19:41:00 -
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Lest we forget this is just a beta and we're helping work out the bugs. Most players on Ps3 don't even know this game exists, I've talked with some guys who have never played on EvE that were given the keys by friends who do. Most of the players on the beta are EvE guys because some of us prefer to shoot people on the ground than podding miners, or listening to a kid rage over his tengu that just died. The biggest issue we'll face is Ps3 isn't exactly known as a Shooter console, now I don't intend or want to start a debate on 360 vs Ps3. The simple fact is to make this game successful we need to recruit everyone we can, regardless of console loyalty. |
Amazigh Stormrage
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2012.08.28 19:57:00 -
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Swinging Donkey wrote:Lest we forget this is just a beta and we're helping work out the bugs. Most players on Ps3 don't even know this game exists, I've talked with some guys who have never played on EvE that were given the keys by friends who do. Most of the players on the beta are EvE guys because some of us prefer to shoot people on the ground than podding miners, or listening to a kid rage over his tengu that just died. The biggest issue we'll face is Ps3 isn't exactly known as a Shooter console, now I don't intend or want to start a debate on 360 vs Ps3. The simple fact is to make this game successful we need to recruit everyone we can, regardless of console loyalty.
atleast you undertand the point of this topic :) high five |
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.28 20:11:00 -
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+1 Donkey. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.08.28 21:02:00 -
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Amazigh Stormrage wrote:The Game is FAR from ready!
What we are doing right now, is assisting CCP and there development team in solving problems, balancing the game, giving notifications of what could be better, what should be down graded etc etc to make this FPS / RPG-MMO a topofthe line game.
in other words; stop crying and whining like a kiddo that got his lolipop stolen about what games are better funnier, better graphic, larger E-peen or what the F else.
WE ARE TESTING AND ASSISTING in the development PERIOD.
So am I testing and giving feed back, but when the basics of an fps are not getting the attention they should (shooting , aiming, hit detection) and repeated posts simply get the it's beta or the one I like best gtfo that gives people the right to whine as you put it. After so many builds the basics are still poor.
Also what feed back do we get from ccp each week on these forums about our concerns ?
Posts like this are part of the problem with this games advancement
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.28 21:23:00 -
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Yup, but I think we're all agreed. Everyone should be welcomed warmly. That way we'll have more players to kill, and for bombardment from space. Everyone's happy. Less venom. |
Amazigh Stormrage
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2012.08.28 21:39:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Yup, but I think we're all agreed. Everyone should be welcomed warmly. That way we'll have more players to kill, and for bombardment from space. Everyone's happy. Less venom.
now ur talking tony ... high five o7 o/ |
Brock Motsu
6
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Posted - 2012.08.28 21:56:00 -
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Amazigh Stormrage wrote:The Game is FAR from ready!
What we are doing right now, is assisting CCP and there development team in solving problems, balancing the game, giving notifications of what could be better, what should be down graded etc etc to make this FPS / RPG-MMO a topofthe line game.
in other words; stop crying and whining like a kiddo that got his lolipop stolen about what games are better funnier, better graphic, larger E-peen or what the F else.
WE ARE TESTING AND ASSISTING in the development PERIOD.
Dude, +1 on that!
I was a beta tester for a little mod for BF2 called PoE(Point of Existence) and I can tell you now that people need to calm down.
It may seem like your voices are not being heard, but really it is. I'm sure that bug system they are using is supersaturated with bugs right now. They are NOT going to implement core gameplay issue fixes right now as there is WAAAAAAY to much they still have to put into the core game to test. People need to calm down and realize balancing will happen but you need to be patient and WAIT for it to happen. Keep noting when you run into issues. however, stop whining, crying, b1tching and complaining about the core issues you are seeing. They will get to it when they get to it.
Thank you.
See you all in game!
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fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.08.28 22:04:00 -
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Brock Motsu wrote:Amazigh Stormrage wrote:The Game is FAR from ready!
What we are doing right now, is assisting CCP and there development team in solving problems, balancing the game, giving notifications of what could be better, what should be down graded etc etc to make this FPS / RPG-MMO a topofthe line game.
in other words; stop crying and whining like a kiddo that got his lolipop stolen about what games are better funnier, better graphic, larger E-peen or what the F else.
WE ARE TESTING AND ASSISTING in the development PERIOD. Dude, +1 on that! I was a beta tester for a little mod for BF2 called PoE(Point of Existence) and I can tell you now that people need to calm down. It may seem like your voices are not being heard, but really it is. I'm sure that bug system they are using is supersaturated with bugs right now. They are NOT going to implement core gameplay issue fixes right now as there is WAAAAAAY to much they still have to put into the core game to test. People need to calm down and realize balancing will happen but you need to be patient and WAIT for it to happen. Keep noting when you run into issues. however, stop whining, crying, b1tching and complaining about the core issues you are seeing. They will get to it when they get to it. Thank you. See you all in game!
These core issues are they to do with the combat aspect? Because they should have been priority a couple of builds ago as stated they have been told about this so many times it's getting silly and still nothing changes in this area all we get are some pretty graphic upgrades,
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Brock Motsu
6
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Posted - 2012.08.28 22:06:00 -
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Brock Motsu wrote:
They will get to it when they get to it.
enough said. |
Saiibot
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.08.29 14:06:00 -
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Amazigh Stormrage wrote:The Game is FAR from ready!
What we are doing right now, is assisting CCP and there development team in solving problems, balancing the game, giving notifications of what could be better, what should be down graded etc etc to make this FPS / RPG-MMO a topofthe line game.
in other words; stop crying and whining like a kiddo that got his lolipop stolen about what games are better funnier, better graphic, larger E-peen or what the F else.
WE ARE TESTING AND ASSISTING in the development PERIOD. "The Game is FAR from ready!" Thats why it was a grave mistake to had made the beta so 'access friendly' because the game in its current state, left a bad impression on alot of people who weren't expecting such a bare-bones experience. |
Patches The Hyena
204
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Posted - 2012.08.29 14:53:00 -
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Also doesn't it make sense most people here are EVE players? They were the ones given immediate free access to the Beta. When EVE players were the primary group made aware of Dust and given access it only makes sense the beta is flooded with EVE players. |
Templar Two
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.08.29 15:06:00 -
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You can say what you want but Tony is right: EVE is undeniably a small game compared to any major MMO or any online FPS. |
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J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.08.29 19:26:00 -
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If its far from ready why are we allowing PS+ members in. Thats one step away from open beta folks.
I think you guys are having a little bit of wishful thinking. The train might have left the station on this one already.
Also, if anyone EVER posts "Its a beta" in an honest and thought out post I make, I usually wanna go stuff a kitten down their throat. Thats the lamest fanboy excuse ever. I don't like name calling in general, even "fanboy" because it tends to subvert the truth of the argument and instead of addressing your opponents points attacks them personally. |
Corban Lahnder
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2012.08.29 19:29:00 -
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+ 1
Now. Never be afraid to post criticism like this:
Theres graphical bugs on the SMG when you run with it.
Deployment menus are popping up randomly.
The reload animation is playing randomly after reload.
Put that on bugs.
For feedback leave constructive stuff like:
I understand that scout DS should be hard to hit but right now its too difficult and heres some reasons why-
Tanks are overpowered in Team Death match because of XYZ etc.
When you say stuff like:
This game isnt done yet I hate it, or This doesnt play like shooter XYZ and they had a beta and it was done!
Its not helpful.
We want people to post there findings during the beta we're not trying to stifle this. We're trying to tell people who are angry that this isn't a finished product that there are more constructive things to do with your posts.
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Brock Motsu
6
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Posted - 2012.08.29 19:50:00 -
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Corban Lahnder wrote:+ 1
Now. Never be afraid to post criticism like this:
Theres graphical bugs on the SMG when you run with it.
Deployment menus are popping up randomly.
The reload animation is playing randomly after reload.
Put that on bugs.
For feedback leave constructive stuff like:
I understand that scout DS should be hard to hit but right now its too difficult and heres some reasons why-
Tanks are overpowered in Team Death match because of XYZ etc.
When you say stuff like:
This game isnt done yet I hate it, or This doesnt play like shooter XYZ and they had a beta and it was done!
Its not helpful.
We want people to post there findings during the beta we're not trying to stifle this. We're trying to tell people who are angry that this isn't a finished product that there are more constructive things to do with your posts.
Yes. This exactly.
Thank you
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Reb El
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.08.29 20:31:00 -
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Amazigh Stormrage wrote:Tony Calif wrote:Yup, but I think we're all agreed. Everyone should be welcomed warmly. That way we'll have more players to kill, and for bombardment from space. Everyone's happy. Less venom. now ur talking tony ... high five o7 o/
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expendable teammate 285
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.08.29 21:02:00 -
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Patches The Hyena wrote:To add...
Something people have forgotten is the largest hurdle to Dust being released is all network related, not gameplay. While everyone complains about hit registering and crying whenever CCP moves forward without fixing this or that, CCP is trying to male sure EVE and Dust can exist together on the same server and interact. If they can't make that happen it doesn't matter how smooth it plays, it will be a failure because it doesn't deliver on the primary promise.
This is why the Beta was pushed out so early, with several aspects and features in an obvious Alpha state. If the networking can't be worked out Dust dies regardless of anything else.
Networking issues? From a game studio that's had the only monthly pay MMO to stand up to WoW? Yeah i'm sure they have a hard time with "networking issues"
Anyways it's not a network issue when all your valid starter dropsuits are invalid, it's not a networking issue when the game freezes in the map or on a loading screen. |
Amazigh Stormrage
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2012.08.30 00:25:00 -
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expendable teammate 285 wrote:Patches The Hyena wrote:To add...
Something people have forgotten is the largest hurdle to Dust being released is all network related, not gameplay. While everyone complains about hit registering and crying whenever CCP moves forward without fixing this or that, CCP is trying to male sure EVE and Dust can exist together on the same server and interact. If they can't make that happen it doesn't matter how smooth it plays, it will be a failure because it doesn't deliver on the primary promise.
This is why the Beta was pushed out so early, with several aspects and features in an obvious Alpha state. If the networking can't be worked out Dust dies regardless of anything else. Networking issues? From a game studio that's had the only monthly pay MMO to stand up to WoW? Yeah i'm sure they have a hard time with "networking issues" Anyways it's not a network issue when all your valid starter dropsuits are invalid, it's not a networking issue when the game freezes in the map or on a loading screen.
guy's guy's ur going off topic, monthly pay NOR WoW has todo with it, besides, WoW is for kiddo's nowadays, you levell and gear up a char from 1 to85 and gear it up witrh the highet level gear over a weekend...
WoW = hitting eachother on the head witha blank weapon.. both EVE-online and Dust are a bit more advanced and you need brains for it>
and the morepeople writing here, the more they go off topic.
read the first topic and thats all you need to read, people sstarting to tell theirlove storyin other game i NOT what this topic i ment for.
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Amazigh Stormrage
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2012.08.30 00:31:00 -
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Amazigh Stormrage wrote:The Game is FAR from ready!
What we are doing right now, is assisting CCP and there development team in solving problems, balancing the game, giving notifications of what could be better, what should be down graded etc etc to make this FPS / RPG-MMO a topofthe line game.
in other words; stop crying and whining like a kiddo that got his lolipop stolen about what games are better funnier, better graphic, larger E-peen or what the F else.
WE ARE TESTING AND ASSISTING in the development PERIOD.
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