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Cpl Quartz
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Posted - 2012.08.27 23:29:00 -
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jesus next youll be linking wizzo:P |
Avinash Decker
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.27 23:45:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:4447 wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:balanced gameplay good hit detection little lag good competitive community
damn i just described blackops 2 aka the savior of console FPS games. but wheres the innovation in BLACK OPS? Skill based leagues
Are you saying a skill based system is a new thing ? Because Halo , Battlefield bad company , and shadow run had it way before BO2.
Anyway they said they want a triple a shooter . And AAA goes are basically games that are high budget , quality, and usually really popular . Like Uncharted , Halo , COD, Battlefield , WOW , Starcraft,etc |
Cpl Quartz
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Posted - 2012.08.27 23:49:00 -
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Avinash Decker wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:4447 wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:balanced gameplay good hit detection little lag good competitive community
damn i just described blackops 2 aka the savior of console FPS games. but wheres the innovation in BLACK OPS? Skill based leagues Are you saying a skill based system is a new thing ? Because Halo , Battlefield bad company , and shadow run had it way before BO2. Anyway they said they want a triple a shooter .
no shooter is going to be triple A without jetpacks.
x , y and z.
in my opinion
i do realize the hard work people put into making games. i'm not trying to be ungrateful it's just i have known something special. |
Rugman91
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.27 23:57:00 -
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If you think cod 4 is a AAA game because it was "innovative" Then dust is going to be a AAAA game |
Cpl Quartz
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Posted - 2012.08.28 00:03:00 -
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Rugman91 wrote:If you think cod 4 is a AAA game because it was "innovative" Then dust is going to be a AAAA game
shouldnt dis other games. i enjoyed cod for quite a while, once i bound my knife to the up mousewheel. and ran round the map like a madman. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.28 00:26:00 -
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Rugman91 wrote:If you think cod 4 is a AAA game because it was "innovative" Then dust is going to be a AAAA game
COD 4 had things in it, that change FPS for console games the mixing of genre... DUST is a great game but a AAAA game? only one game can take that throne and that's ZELDA 64. |
Rugman91
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.28 00:40:00 -
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Still not seein it with cod 4. Zelda 64 on the other hand we agree on |
SoLJae
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.28 00:41:00 -
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4447 wrote:can dust be a AAA game? this is not troll post.
one thing i do know is it is a single letter A game for now.
What do you consider EVE online to be using your "A" scale?
If by triple AAA you mean a game that is revolutionary, genre-inspiring, and possessing of a rabid fan base, then yes, I believe that DUST 514 can achieve that accomplishment. |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.28 00:48:00 -
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I think the game needs to be fun before innovating. Just my opinion. Basic gameplay needs to be fun and addictive. To me its more frusturating and shallow.
:0 an opposing opinion appears! It uses post! Its super effective! |
Cpl Quartz
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Posted - 2012.08.28 00:48:00 -
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as an excel based game aaaaa:P |
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Average Joe81
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Posted - 2012.08.28 00:50:00 -
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4447 wrote:Rugman91 wrote:If you think cod 4 is a AAA game because it was "innovative" Then dust is going to be a AAAA game COD 4 had things in it, that change FPS for console games the mixing of genre... DUST is a great game but a AAAA game? only one game can take that throne and that's ZELDA 64. i played that |
Cpl Quartz
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Posted - 2012.08.28 00:51:00 -
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SoLJae wrote:4447 wrote:can dust be a AAA game? this is not troll post.
one thing i do know is it is a single letter A game for now. What do you consider EVE online to be using your "A" scale? If by triple AAA you mean a game that is revolutionary, genre-inspiring, and possessing of a rabid fan base, then yes, I believe that DUST 514 can achieve that accomplishment.
what would tribes be then or is eve in a small part a part of that?
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Cpl Quartz
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Posted - 2012.08.28 00:53:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:4447 wrote:Rugman91 wrote:If you think cod 4 is a AAA game because it was "innovative" Then dust is going to be a AAAA game COD 4 had things in it, that change FPS for console games the mixing of genre... DUST is a great game but a AAAA game? only one game can take that throne and that's ZELDA 64. i played that
turok was better or at least as good but less people played it. and has the one of the best weapons ever in the cerebrial bore. google it. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.08.28 03:40:00 -
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4447 wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:balanced gameplay good hit detection little lag good competitive community
damn i just described blackops 2 aka the savior of console FPS games. but wheres the innovation in BLACK OPS?
leagues for competitive play skill based matchmaking now ingame live streaming without the need for capture equipment or a pc things in place for wannabe shoutcasters and pro shoutcasters to comment live streams
BO2 as much as i dont like cod has raised the bar and doin something for the competitive community so i give my props to treyarch
CCP needs to step up, game been around since 09 and still crap hit detection, clunky/sluggish gameplay lacking stuff for competitive play at launch, prob wont even get VR rooms aka private settings for corps to practice at launch either
This game is not even close atm to a AAA game....its fun but def not AAA clans will drop this game so fast if they dont have practice areas/VR rooms and idk how many will wait around for Gladiator arenas tbh
lets hope it turns out well tho, but i must say my hype has died down alot |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2012.08.28 04:05:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:4447 wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:balanced gameplay good hit detection little lag good competitive community
damn i just described blackops 2 aka the savior of console FPS games. but wheres the innovation in BLACK OPS? leagues for competitive play skill based matchmaking now ingame live streaming without the need for capture equipment or a pc things in place for wannabe shoutcasters and pro shoutcasters to comment live streams BO2 as much as i dont like cod has raised the bar and doin something for the competitive community so i give my props to treyarch CCP needs to step up, game been around since 09 and still crap hit detection, clunky/sluggish gameplay lacking stuff for competitive play at launch, prob wont even get VR rooms aka private settings for corps to practice at launch either This game is not even close atm to a AAA game....its fun but def not AAA clans will drop this game so fast if they dont have practice areas/VR rooms and idk how many will wait around for Gladiator arenas tbh lets hope it turns out well tho, but i must say my hype has died down alot
They should do this at the local bowling alley. The whole live streaming thing and amateur commentary.
Look, playing FPS games as if they were a weekly bowling league meet up is fun and I certainly understand and appreciate the allure of all that. I am looking forward to arena fights in Dark Souls and would be much more tempted to get a PC just for that than EVE. But EVE is all about persistent and total war, not the sporting kind, either. The idea of competitive FPS E sports is fun and all but kind of a sideshow.
Also it doesn't seem like a number of people get that this game isn't really going to launch. It is just going to keep chugging along and just sort of be there. It isn't like a box game where they need to pile in the players the first month after the game comes out and then hope some will be hooked enough to buy the DLC until the next sequel lands on store shelves.
I agree about the clunky, sluggish gameplay for the most part. Hit detection is hit or miss. Hopefully that will get sorted out.
But there's no need to get dramatic and all "the sky is falling!" about the supposed failure to launch. Just stop back in from time to time and see how things are going. If and when they get the FPS arenas up and running I am sure someone will pay you super stars some money to fight it out. Or throw a match. Who knows. And by that time there might be a whole new generation of COD kids who might be willing to give the game a try. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2012.08.28 04:10:00 -
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Cpl Quartz wrote:
jesus next youll be linking wizzo:P
Clowns do not exist.
Ok, this is not a troll question, seriously I totally mean it. But is anything cooler than jesus? |
Gemini Reynolds
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.28 04:22:00 -
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Aighun wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:
jesus next youll be linking wizzo:P
Clowns do not exist. Ok, this is not a troll question, seriously I totally mean it. But is anything cooler than jesus?
According to My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult...Yes. |
Cpl Quartz
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Posted - 2012.08.28 04:30:00 -
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Aighun wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:
jesus next youll be linking wizzo:P
Clowns do not exist. Ok, this is not a troll question, seriously I totally mean it. But is anything cooler than jesus?
they do and i can assure you they are not as funny as they think they are.
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fred orpaul
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.28 07:16:00 -
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AAA is the equivalent of a big hollywood movie. it doesnt have to be anything new, it doesnt need to sell well, hell it doesnt even need to be good. It just needs a big budget. and in that regard yes dust is most definitely a AAA FPS. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2012.08.28 07:20:00 -
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I hear CCP is aiming for AAAA. |
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.08.28 09:10:00 -
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Aighun wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:4447 wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:balanced gameplay good hit detection little lag good competitive community
damn i just described blackops 2 aka the savior of console FPS games. but wheres the innovation in BLACK OPS? leagues for competitive play skill based matchmaking now ingame live streaming without the need for capture equipment or a pc things in place for wannabe shoutcasters and pro shoutcasters to comment live streams BO2 as much as i dont like cod has raised the bar and doin something for the competitive community so i give my props to treyarch CCP needs to step up, game been around since 09 and still crap hit detection, clunky/sluggish gameplay lacking stuff for competitive play at launch, prob wont even get VR rooms aka private settings for corps to practice at launch either This game is not even close atm to a AAA game....its fun but def not AAA clans will drop this game so fast if they dont have practice areas/VR rooms and idk how many will wait around for Gladiator arenas tbh lets hope it turns out well tho, but i must say my hype has died down alot They should do this at the local bowling alley. The whole live streaming thing and amateur commentary. Look, playing FPS games as if they were a weekly bowling league meet up is fun and I certainly understand and appreciate the allure of all that. I am looking forward to arena fights in Dark Souls and would be much more tempted to get a PC just for that than EVE. But EVE is all about persistent and total war, not the sporting kind, either. The idea of competitive FPS E sports is fun and all but kind of a sideshow. Also it doesn't seem like a number of people get that this game isn't really going to launch. It is just going to keep chugging along and just sort of be there. It isn't like a box game where they need to pile in the players the first month after the game comes out and then hope some will be hooked enough to buy the DLC until the next sequel lands on store shelves. I agree about the clunky, sluggish gameplay for the most part. Hit detection is hit or miss. Hopefully that will get sorted out. But there's no need to get dramatic and all "the sky is falling!" about the supposed failure to launch. Just stop back in from time to time and see how things are going. If and when they get the FPS arenas up and running I am sure someone will pay you super stars some money to fight it out. Or throw a match. Who knows. And by that time there might be a whole new generation of COD kids who might be willing to give the game a try.
i remember another game that was about persistence and total war as well and only tried to do that.......wonder how that game turned out.....................
Dont get me wrong i will love that side of the game but im sayin is that FPS games are competitive by nature despite what the genre has recently become catering to casuals it has always been a competitive arena and i can guarantee u that just like MAG not every clan will have 500 zerglings to throw around to deal with planetary conquest, ppl have standards unlike those zerg clans so planetary conquest and actually holding territory will not be feasable for alot of the FPS clans so then all thats left for them is mercenary roles which will get boring fast which is why arenas will appease to those especially the competitive bunch |
Seran Jinkar
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.28 09:38:00 -
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Annoyance - Check Aggravation - Check Adaptation - Check
Yep .. sounds like Triple A to me.
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Echo-418
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.28 09:46:00 -
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Seran Jinkar wrote:Annoyance - Check Aggravation - Check Adaptation - Check
Yep .. sounds like Triple A to me.
Give this man a cigar... |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.28 09:58:00 -
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Cpl Quartz wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:4447 wrote:Rugman91 wrote:If you think cod 4 is a AAA game because it was "innovative" Then dust is going to be a AAAA game COD 4 had things in it, that change FPS for console games the mixing of genre... DUST is a great game but a AAAA game? only one game can take that throne and that's ZELDA 64. i played that turok was better or at least as good but less people played it. and has the one of the best weapons ever in the cerebrial bore. google it.
turok was good, i think the game just got shadowed by golden eye and prefect dark... |
BlacMage
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
59
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Posted - 2012.08.28 11:13:00 -
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4447 wrote:can dust be a AAA game? this is not troll post.
what makes a AAA game? how many copies they sold? how many bugs in the game? graphics,gameplay or both? story? innovation? budget?
i can name some games that are AAA games but didn't sell well, does that make them AAA games? i remember when snake was on a NOKIA 3210 everyone was playing it, does that make snake a AAA game?
COD 4 was a AAA game because it was new way of looking at a FPS but, does that make MW3,BLACK OPS and BLACK OPS 2 AAA games? is the word AAA games used to much? because there seems to be a lot of AAA games coming out ever year with no new innovations in the games.
the problem with games companies calling there games AAA is it for free publicity? is there really that many AAA games that come out ever year or is it a hand full every decade?
what makes DUST 514 a AAA title? it has innovation, it has story i don't know, has it got a big budget i don't know. one thing i do know is it is a single letter A game for now. In DUSTs case, AAA just means that the game will be a full FPS experience that is F2P, rather than the smaller scale games that F2P normally is associated with. Think the difference between farmville and civilization 5; both sim games but only one is AAA. While other AAA F2P are out there (DCUO, PS2, SW:TOR) the term is normally used for more casual type games. CCP just want advertisment to reflect the full sized scale of the game. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.08.28 11:50:00 -
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May be if they focus on what is wrong and sort it out mainly the shooting part,after all it's supposed to be an fps.
Even after all these builds it's still hit and miss, no pun intended |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.08.28 11:54:00 -
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4447 wrote:
how many copies they sold? how many bugs in the game? graphics,gameplay or both? story? innovation? budget?
With that list i dunno tbh
COD>BF3>KZ3>MAG for copies sold but tbh that means **** all to me, for all i know 1million retards bought the same game but does that make said game awesome? no
Bugs - BF3 still cant group up with ppl and mics still dodgy not to mention always an OP weapon because patches always break something and make guns useless aka foregrip adds recoil how ******** is that, flares distract a lazer guided missile lol, forgot crap servers since majority are private, MAG lots of bugs tbh
Graphics - BF3 wins, but 12v12 on a console on massive maps = boring and quiet, COD uses same engine i think for past few years and KZ3 did look good but meh, graphics for me not too fussed about, MAG bad graphics
Gameplay - BF3 only for vehicles, KZ3 for something different, MAG for large scale
Story - BF3 short and crap tbh, COD never bothered with it but sounds crap, KZ3 prob best of the lot but the 3rd installment was too short and half arsed at best
Innovation - BF3 none, KZ3 none, COD none, MAG lots tbh
Budget - COD and BF3 prob heavily advertised and KZ3 had a little bit but once again means nothing to me
AAA titles are a myth these days for me |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.08.28 13:52:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:4447 wrote:
how many copies they sold? how many bugs in the game? graphics,gameplay or both? story? innovation? budget?
With that list i dunno tbh COD>BF3>KZ3>MAG for copies sold but tbh that means **** all to me, for all i know 1million retards bought the same game but does that make said game awesome? no Bugs - BF3 still cant group up with ppl and mics still dodgy not to mention always an OP weapon because patches always break something and make guns useless aka foregrip adds recoil how ******** is that, flares distract a lazer guided missile lol, forgot crap servers since majority are private, MAG lots of bugs tbh Graphics - BF3 wins, but 12v12 on a console on massive maps = boring and quiet, COD uses same engine i think for past few years and KZ3 did look good but meh, graphics for me not too fussed about, MAG bad graphics Gameplay - BF3 only for vehicles, KZ3 for something different, MAG for large scale Story - BF3 short and crap tbh, COD never bothered with it but sounds crap, KZ3 prob best of the lot but the 3rd installment was too short and half arsed at best Innovation - BF3 none, KZ3 none, COD none, MAG lots tbh Budget - COD and BF3 prob heavily advertised and KZ3 had a little bit but once again means nothing to me AAA titles are a myth these days for me
name five games in gaming history that are AAA games.
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SoLJae
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
351
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Posted - 2012.08.28 17:01:00 -
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4447 wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:4447 wrote:
how many copies they sold? how many bugs in the game? graphics,gameplay or both? story? innovation? budget?
With that list i dunno tbh COD>BF3>KZ3>MAG for copies sold but tbh that means **** all to me, for all i know 1million retards bought the same game but does that make said game awesome? no Bugs - BF3 still cant group up with ppl and mics still dodgy not to mention always an OP weapon because patches always break something and make guns useless aka foregrip adds recoil how ******** is that, flares distract a lazer guided missile lol, forgot crap servers since majority are private, MAG lots of bugs tbh Graphics - BF3 wins, but 12v12 on a console on massive maps = boring and quiet, COD uses same engine i think for past few years and KZ3 did look good but meh, graphics for me not too fussed about, MAG bad graphics Gameplay - BF3 only for vehicles, KZ3 for something different, MAG for large scale Story - BF3 short and crap tbh, COD never bothered with it but sounds crap, KZ3 prob best of the lot but the 3rd installment was too short and half arsed at best Innovation - BF3 none, KZ3 none, COD none, MAG lots tbh Budget - COD and BF3 prob heavily advertised and KZ3 had a little bit but once again means nothing to me AAA titles are a myth these days for me name five games in gaming history that are AAA games.
Grand Theft Auto 4 Metal Gear Solid 4 Mass Effect 3 Assassin's Creed 2 Red Dead Redemption Halo Uncharted 3 Half-life 2
and many others.
I mean AAA to be the" best of the best." |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.08.28 17:12:00 -
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Is AAA meaning the best of the best?
These days it means the most known games with the biggest budgets to me, not meaning the best gameplay
Is COD/BF3 AAA? to me they are substandard and dont deserve a single A more like a U
The games i will name as AAA are as follows
Metal Gear Solid Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Metal Gear Soild Peace Walker |
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