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kalahari ilkeston
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.27 16:16:00 -
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kellogs27 wrote:The major issue with ship boarding is that both parties will have to sit around for 10-20 minutes..
Sit around and wait why? the attacking ship fires the dust soldiers at your ship then leaves
if the defending ship has no security contract or clones on board they can call friends to send some over or hope your internal security is up to, |
kalahari ilkeston
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2012.08.27 16:22:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:I'm just gonna say it again - ship boarding would make mercenaries to valuable. Any number of ways could make it a more "complicated" endeavor, but complex or not complex it would still be far to valuable. It would make having mercenaries at your disposal a necessity rather than an opportunity.
problem??? its just another weapon on your ship, that im sure you have by necessity |
kalahari ilkeston
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:25:00 -
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pew pew youredead wrote:we will never stop pointing out why it is not gonna happen
i wont ever stop pointing out pvp, deal with it
i board your ship, you die
your friends blow up your ship, i die
technically i dont due to an implant that transfers consciousness at the point of death
lol i just love how you always pointed out "dust troops, hold your ship for ranson"
how is this any different to eve players holding your ship for ransom after asking for help? |
kalahari ilkeston
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:34:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Why it may not happen but ccp might like the concept I'm sure that they do like the concept; it's such a fun idea, it would be amazing, but it cannot happen without putting EVE players at the mercy of Dust players. It would come down to mercenaries saying "move us here or we wont defend you" or "give us this or we will kill you" perhaps even "ha, you paid us to board and protect your ship.... bad idea. *proceed to list ransom demands*".
pay them after leaving the ship, at the moment we get paid after going into battle not before, should be no different
and for the record dust wont run like eve does
for the dust player it'll all just ends with no chance of holding ship for ransom after victory has been achieved
so if us dust players dont defend the ship we dont get paid, and once we win or loose thats the end of the game for us
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kalahari ilkeston
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:36:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:
Then tell me, how are mercs going to move between stantions/planets/systems/regions if we have to be lugged around by EVE players? Dust mercs are capable of independent movement.
We will move around the same way we will without and kind of ship boarding in the system |
kalahari ilkeston
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:47:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: It would make having mercenaries aboard your ship for protection, a necessity in hauling, PvP, exploring, mining, etc. If you did not having anyone aboard your ship, a group of total noobs would be able to take you out, so long as they have some Dust players to throw at you.
How is this any different from a bunch of noobs being able to take out your mining ship etc with any other kind of weapon
if i shoot your ship with enough dusties youll be taken over
if i shoot your shoot with enough missiles youll be destroyed
you need some way to defend against the missles... hmm so shields become a nesseccity
you need some way to defend against the dusties... hmm so dusties become a nesseccity
missiles and explosions inside your ship is a bad idea?
well if i cant destroy a building on the ground with a tank i doubt i can do anything to your ship with a hand held launcher |
kalahari ilkeston
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2012.08.27 20:02:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:
Um? I think you misunderstood what I was saying, possibly you didn't read what I was responding to. Also, I'm not really sure what you're saying, you wrote that sentence awkwardly.
dusties rely on eve players to be moved around???
once released dusties are supposed to be used to "take over objectives on planets for eve players"
IRL im not going to be waiting in a transport to get to said planet
to put it simply just replace "ship boarding" with "planet landing"
its pretty much the same thing with a different end result
eve player attacks a ship owned by a eve player with mercs, defensing eve player needs mercs to defend it
eve player attacks a location on the ground owned by a eve player with mercs, the other defending eve player that owns this piece of land will need mercs to defend it
IRL dust players are not going to be waiting on the ground waiting for someone to come along and attack
just like they wont be waiting in ships to be transported to a planet to attack it
I suspect ccp will heavily use the "brain implant that allows consciousness to be transported, even at the point of death" to explain away many of these timing and distance issues. It would explain how its possible for instant troop deployment on any planet at any time. meaning IRL the typical dust player just gets seamlessly transported instantly to battle, either on the ground or not on the ground |
kalahari ilkeston
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2012.08.27 20:13:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:they would have to create full maps for the ships interior, x that buy the amount of ships IN new eden.....on top of all the data for the planetary maps.............toooooooo much data.
ill mention this again
the typical RL dust FPS player will play the exact same map shooting the same people over and over and over, we dont need different maps and wont even care if all ships, even use the same random 5 maps, over and over and over again |
kalahari ilkeston
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2012.08.27 21:17:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:
I'm not the one that said Dust players will require EVE players to move them around. Someone else was saying that, and I was telling them that Dust players are capable of independent movement. You should read what you're replying to.
Im supporting your opinion, I suppose I should have made that clearer |
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