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STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:31:00 -
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I will never stop requesting it |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:41:00 -
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Why it may not happen but ccp might like the concept |
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:45:00 -
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pew pew youredead wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Why it may not happen but ccp might like the concept and like i said before, the players of EVE have their say in this also, and i think, no, i'm positively sure they're not gonna let it happen
It's only even gonna happen if someone gets separated from the group of ships as in to randoms in eve |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:55:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Why it may not happen but ccp might like the concept I'm sure that they do like the concept; it's such a fun idea, it would be amazing, but it cannot happen without putting EVE players at the mercy of Dust players. It would come down to mercenaries saying "move us here or we wont defend you" or "give us this or we will kill you" perhaps even "ha, you paid us to board and protect your ship.... bad idea. *proceed to list ransom demands*". And again mercs would be at the mercy of eve players because they need eve players to move them onto a ship by using a ship that can launch pods, then damaging the ship enough where pods are can be launched safely |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:57:00 -
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pew pew youredead wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:pew pew youredead wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Why it may not happen but ccp might like the concept and like i said before, the players of EVE have their say in this also, and i think, no, i'm positively sure they're not gonna let it happen It's only even gonna happen if someone gets separated from the group of ships as in to randoms in eve what i'm saying is beyond in-situ..... but you're not listening....
But what happened to the cold, unforgiving world of new eden and do you really think i didn't take notes. The only people it'll happen to are nobodies (or somebodies who f up) not nearly enough to cause quitting |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.25 09:03:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Why it may not happen but ccp might like the concept I'm sure that they do like the concept; it's such a fun idea, it would be amazing, but it cannot happen without putting EVE players at the mercy of Dust players. It would come down to mercenaries saying "move us here or we wont defend you" or "give us this or we will kill you" perhaps even "ha, you paid us to board and protect your ship.... bad idea. *proceed to list ransom demands*". And again mercs would be at the mercy of eve players because they need eve players to move them onto a ship by using a ship that can launch pods, then damaging the ship enough where pods are can be launched safely Then tell me, how are mercs going to move between stantions/planets/systems/regions if we have to be lugged around by EVE players? Dust mercs are capable of independent movement.
But they won't be very capable of defense in the war barge |
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Posted - 2012.08.25 09:14:00 -
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It may not rely on eve but it may play a role as war barges may be defenseless (other than it's precision strike) |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.26 03:26:00 -
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Bump to continue discussion |
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Posted - 2012.08.26 04:01:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Avenger 245 wrote:you assume dusties will move an act as a whole? if these dusties wont help you find some other or friends. besides it is a interesting concept for larger ships and well we would still rely on eve for manuacturing logistics and space control boarding could tip the scales in a battle but not destroy it we dusties would still be dependent on eve players for everything The fact that you think Dust is supposed to rely on EVE for all of its supply, shows that you are unaware of what Dust is meant to be in relation to EVE. CCP have directly stated that if one game were removed from the server, the other would survive just fine. Dust is going to have manufacturing, resource gathering, somehow even sovereignty. Having a corporation made 100% of Dust players, will be able to provide for all of their own needs, and own their own planets/systems. That said, giving Dust players the ability to board player owned ships, would sky rocket their value, and suddenly EVE would rely on Dust. It would make having mercenaries aboard your ship for protection, a necessity in hauling, PvP, exploring, mining, etc. If you did not having anyone aboard your ship, a group of total noobs would be able to take you out, so long as they have some Dust players to throw at you.
Make the mercs have to do certain actions aboard the eve ship that if improperly done could result in a seizure of assets ftom the merc, enough to make it a risk v reward scenario |
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Posted - 2012.08.26 04:48:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Make the mercs have to do certain actions aboard the eve ship that if improperly done could result in a seizure of assets ftom the merc, enough to make it a risk v reward scenario The all of the ships main functions are controlled by the capsuleer as far as I know, and mercenaries are created specifically as war machines, they don't have much other value. So what "actions" would they be tasked with?
That is where I'm stumped. Basically the actions regular crew would perform but exactly how to do it, i can't say |
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STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.26 05:03:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:We could use dust soldiers to harvest areas far to dangerous/expensive to pay a for a non immortal to give up 20 years of schooling for in one shot.
Belive it or not mercs and capsuleers are 'cost effective' vs using regular humans.
I actually like this, can i apply to work aboard your ship now? |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.26 06:50:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote: I will never stop requesting it The only kind of ship boarding that's possible is mcc boarding in the style of bf2142, there are ex dice at ccp so maybe that will happen at some point, but as far as eve ship boarding goes.........forGET it! Not gonna happen......ev-er. like someone else posted on this thread....they would have to create full maps for the ships interior, x that buy the amount of ships IN new eden.....on top of all the data for the planetary maps.............toooooooo much data.
Simple answer, one map per class of ship |
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Posted - 2012.08.26 07:11:00 -
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kellogs27 wrote:The major issue with ship boarding is that both parties will have to sit around for 10-20 minutes. In high sec concord will just come and blow the offender up, In Nullsec the person being boarded can just call his friends and they'll destroy the other guy.
Plus it is much easier to just kill someone yourself then sit around for that long waiting.
What if taking a ship could be done in a manner more complicated than simply killing the crew. Maybe a complicated hack sequence that takes a shorter time then having a full battle but something to keep taking a ship difficult |
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Posted - 2012.08.28 22:32:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote: I will never stop requesting it cough, cough ur a *** cough, cough
B*tch |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.29 04:52:00 -
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Make the smaller ships impossible to board (next size up or 2 from the frigate and the rest below that size) |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.29 05:29:00 -
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Show me where the lore states that all ships have built in internal security systems.
If I'm not mistaken a battleship can be use to mine (i wouldn't but it's possible) |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.29 05:42:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Show me where the lore states that all ships have built in internal security systems.
If I'm not mistaken a battleship can be use to mine (i wouldn't but it's possible) While it can be used to mine its a waste of a hull with the new mining changes in that gives some barges more hp than some battleships and of course better yeild. Unfourtuantely its in published material, EON magazines. Capsuleer ships have some extremly nasty defenses becuase they can be more automated than regular crewed ships which is more reliant on crew to repell intruders and even worse is the outership defenses, trying to dock with an active eve ship that doesnt want you to dock can be rather dangerous. Only once in the lore had a capsuleer ship had ever been boarded without inbound incident all because slaves aboard the ships released a poision that forced evactuation of the entire crew and pod captain. The slaver hounds left on the ship ate well that night however and they wherent even part of the original defense plans.
Can i get a link and if boarding was restricted to the three largest ship classes, how many maps would that make |
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