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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.08.25 07:07:00 -
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When was the last time you died? |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.25 07:10:00 -
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Butthurt much? |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.08.25 07:12:00 -
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Legitimate question, how do you actually die?
Like, as a dedicated tank driver, what the hell actually kills you? |
Ruthra V25
Conspiratus Immortalis
40
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Posted - 2012.08.25 07:14:00 -
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hell im happy to finaly start seeing some tanks this build. welll see them until they hide behind a hill :P |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.25 07:16:00 -
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A couple (3 or 4) av people with av grenades duh |
Antonius Dacinci
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:19:00 -
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When those bastard organized squads get on my ass basically xD 4 guys coordinated as a strike force against my tank has got me bothed enough that I as a dedicated tank driver wish to work with other tank drivers to outnumber you four to one :3 So stop bitching because if you really were bothered by tanks you would be super bothered by the enemy having 4 tanks. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:22:00 -
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I would love to start lobbing grenades at tanks, however, CCP decided to say "**** you" to KBM users, in regard to throwing grenades. They made it "X". Honestly, "X"? So now I have to either A) stop moving to throw a grenade (in other words I'm boned) or B) I have to twist my hand so awkwardly that I stop moving anyway (in other words I'm boned). |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:25:00 -
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Stop moving to throw? Huh? Middle finger on W or S, index finger hits X. What kind of strange, bird-like claws are you using to play Dust with? |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:26:00 -
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Half baked tank fit here and I only loose em if I major derp. Totaly OP yea we know but tankys cry big time when anyone says so. Cheap too if you ask me I'm rolling in isk because of loltank.
AV needs a buff or if tanks are suppost to be this tought then they need to have the mid level tanks cost a little more. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:28:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Stop moving to throw? Huh? Middle finger on W or S, index finger hits X. What kind of strange, bird-like claws are you using to play Dust with?
What kind of awkward angle do you keep your keyboard at? I have to move my hand to the left in order for my index finger to properly hit "X", otherwise my knuckles hit and my fingers don't bend far enough. |
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Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:29:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Stop moving to throw? Huh? Middle finger on W or S, index finger hits X. What kind of strange, bird-like claws are you using to play Dust with?
What kind of awkward angle do you keep your keyboard at? I have to move my hand to the left in order for my index finger to properly hit "X", otherwise my knuckles hit and my fingers don't bend far enough.
Edit: Sorry for the double post, forums lagged out on me, said it didn't post and just saved a draft. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:32:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=32930&p=3
If tanks are fine just how they are and AV is also where it should be at then maybe its a queston of Isk ?
The isk to performance is way outa wack if you ask me. If you dont think so post so in link above also same if you think they should be a wee bit more expensive. |
Sees-Too-Much
332
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:32:00 -
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Took out a Gunnlogi last fight. He wandered too far from his team so he wasn't able to hide and recharge his shields. I found him exchanging fire with some guy with swarms. I joined in and he didn't last long. Probably new to tank driving if he made it that easy on us. |
Antonius Dacinci
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:34:00 -
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I can hit X fine o.o I thought ZXC were conventially accepted secondary item buttons in FPS? Man you must just hate that R is on reload. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:38:00 -
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Seriously Antonius, you can hit it fine too? It hurts my hand to hit it without moving my middle finger  R is no problem at all. When playing FPS games I usually set tab to switch primary/secondary, Q as flashlight (if available), E action, R reload, F melee, 3 or 4 as grenade (generally select grenade, left click to throw). |
Antonius Dacinci
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:41:00 -
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Of course I am not saying custom binded controls are something we all don't want but yeah it's conventional for most people on the PC that X is a easily hitable key, if you really need to you can also use your thumb but it comes down to, how do you type with ZXC but you can't do it while playing the game? |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:44:00 -
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Z pinky, X ring, C middle. With my middle finder on W though, I can't hit X with either my ring finger or my index finger, I have to shift my whole hand. Hitting it with my thumb is just awkward as well and still throws me off. |
Antonius Dacinci
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:51:00 -
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As I said though, it's a commonly accepted secondary use button, you just happen to be that small minority who cant use it. Though I never did understand unrebindable keys, especially on the unreal engine where it's basically a text file. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:53:00 -
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Yeah, I was very disappointed when I found I couldn't re-bind them. |
Kyy Seiska
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
188
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Posted - 2012.08.25 10:40:00 -
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Tanks seem fairly balanced now that ISK is actually worth something.
Most of the tanks can be blown up with militia swarm launcher so infantry actually needs to defend the tank from AV-Infantry. In the last build some tank builds where nearly un-killable, but now you can take down most if not all tanks with militia swarm launcher or forge-gun. Un-killable ones cost a fortune now. |
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Aardwolf Pneumatic
SyNergy Gaming
18
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Posted - 2012.08.25 10:48:00 -
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Most of my deaths in tanks seem to of come from AV grenades. Literally 3 of them. 3 AV grenades Vs Tank fitting. Mad ISK difference. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.08.25 10:48:00 -
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Every tank driver I see this build is a god awful pilot. I took out 3 tanks across a handful of matches earlier today because the drivers were being idiots. If you hate tank drivers now, you must have really hated me last build because the difference in driving ability and situational awareness is just staggering.
At the same time, people with AV weapons are idiots as well. All too often I face little to no resistance in a tank, and then people ***** that I roll them. Learn to properly fight back with forge guns and swarm launchers before complaining that it's overpowered. You can easily take out a Standard tank by yourself with a militia swarm launcher and no weapon skills if you're smart about it, especially with these drivers lately... |
oneshytalk
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2012.08.25 11:12:00 -
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Kyy Seiska wrote:Tanks seem fairly balanced now that ISK is actually worth something.
Most of the tanks can be blown up with militia swarm launcher so infantry actually needs to defend the tank from AV-Infantry. In the last build some tank builds where nearly un-killable, but now you can take down most if not all tanks with militia swarm launcher or forge-gun. Un-killable ones cost a fortune now.
LMAO.... Yet again an opinion without knowledge or experience. |
Forte Haulerson
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.08.25 12:51:00 -
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I think it becomes more an issue with overall team balance usually... sometimes playing as a random, no one on the team is either skilled enough to load AT weapons, or just decides to stay out of the way of them altogether and go after other infantry. I'm pretty sure most people know to team up against a tank using the proper weapons. However, who wants to a) suicide to change fit, and/or b) hope that someone else on your squad/team does the same thing. It might be made easier if comms were reliable enough to bark commands at folks being rolled by a tank or two or three... a
Some folks aren't even checking the overview map for HAV threats before spawning so just they respawn into the same fit and keep going...
Are there AT Mines? Will remote explosives do any damage? Those are other tactics to try...
L8r,
FH
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Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.08.25 13:11:00 -
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Antonius Dacinci wrote:When those bastard organized squads get on my ass basically xD 4 guys coordinated as a strike force against my tank has got me bothed enough that I as a dedicated tank driver wish to work with other tank drivers to outnumber you four to one :3 So stop bitching because if you really were bothered by tanks you would be super bothered by the enemy having 4 tanks.
We had the same problem in the last build. People complaining that tanks are OP. So much so that CCP forgot to listen to reason, and overnerfed them, yet here they are again, gunslingers bitching about OP tanks they can solo kill with their AR's.
Tanks are supposed to be mobile fortresses, anything short of a coordinated effort by a full squad should not be able to threaten them.
I've killed a few militia tanks, and even a Gunnology, though I suspect that I might have had help I didn't see, still, my militia SL chewed up its shields pretty easily. I thought that was lame that a militia fit could do that. |
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