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Wakko03
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Posted - 2012.08.24 05:02:00 -
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I can also say that the above doesn't work in all situations.
Is he playing as a single player or in a group? Did anyone buy anything? How long is a base time to wait for it to catch up...
Are you being invited to a group that has played a round and then asked you to join after you have played a round or two?
What happens when the server doesn't end my clients team chat....even though I didn't use it. Same thing with that system, flip it and for the love of all things sane.... stop making it a squad in the merc quarters make it a group, or are there really 6 SL's able to set a frago for a ambush match?
Backing out of a Battle Initiliazing because one person was left behind in the merc quarters, if you leave the queue to try to pick them back up, nope you freeze because now the server doesn't know where the client is. If you then rejoin the group without remaking the whole thing you got a 70-30 chance that 1 person at least will get in-valid drop suit glitch.
I'd love to be able to stay restocked up to 50, I just don't have the 15 mil isk it would take this time around. How much militia gear can I test before it becomes boring?
If you end a game and the Team Channel or multiple team channels are in the select button area, chances are 60-40 that you will freeze or get the drop suit glitch.
Can it possibly have something to do with the fact that order the dropsuits are supposed to be in gets messed up.
Meaning I have paid suits mixed in between my [starter fits], and on top of that my created ones are in no particular order and are not in the order to which I created them. Oh sure sometimes they reset back to the order they were created in, and then that usually results in the drop suits going invalid shortly.
I have also gotten invalid on the first game in the merc quarters when I re-added a friend to the group without remaking the whole group.
It has occcured because we have switched Squad leaders, but then again I have the same friend with 2 different accounts with the same NAME....so there is a laundry list that keeps going around; how about put up a sticky and move all posts about the issue to one thread and keep us appraised of which one of them are actually not the reason and are just coincidence? |
Wakko03
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Posted - 2012.08.27 10:18:00 -
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Update: (I got 12 games in a row with a group of 2 that was only stopped by a random joining into our squad during a match more on this later) [& many sessions of 7 or more before more people joined unexpectly, in match.]
Question: How are you making your groups? Are you selecting the first open slot right under your name and loading up 2-3 names from your contact list and sending out a bunched group invite? Has anyone taken the tediously long time to invite each person to an open slot?
General Information about the problem, it is generally associated / linked with the mechanics that control the Marketplace as you have 0 gear even for militia stuff in your assests and the market is normally not accessible, you will not be able to save any changes to vehicle and dropsuit fittings as they won't be saved upon restart, you are no longer properly connected to the server.
Before joining into a group, there can be no previous group, the whole group has to be remade (meaning that if you have 2, and a 3rd wants in, you both have to leave and also if you have 3 and want a 4th).... I need to test this more when we go to get into 3's & 4's in the group more) If you do get the invalid glitch because of an extra team text/voice channel, everyone must restart the game only, not the entire ps3, unless it freezes going back to the xmb.
Also before joining a group
Step 1: IF your dropsuits are out of order, do the trick where you get them to line up the right way.
Step 2: Then once you are in group waiting to launch an instant battle, only the squad leader can go into the neocom (start button menus), and only to select instant battle at this point. Do not look at anything while waiting for people to arrive, you just have to sit there and do nothing. Also avoid going anywhere near the Local channel (select button menu) as that trying to load names while hang many a system and only displays the written conversation.
If someone gets left behind in the merc quarters while the battle initializing menu is on the screen, do not back out until you are in the warbarge or the choose spawn location option is available. You can sometimes back out, but once the team chat channel is created you have to ride it out until the match launches - if already in progress or be in the warbarge with more than 20 seconds on the clock before start. If anyone has the extra team channel, you should remake the whole group.
For whatever reason, the marketplace seems linked at least in some way to the host or squad leader before you get in the war barge (this is just a rudimentary guess at best and I know it has been mentioned by others already about not doing anything until in game).
Once you get into the warbarge the system seem to stop thinking of you as a group or squad and links your account to the battle, for score and kills/deaths, sp and isk. It is at this time or in match that you should be able to access the menu and restock or adjust. |
Wakko03
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Posted - 2012.08.27 18:43:00 -
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I am going to be further testing my theory in a little while, however it might all be do to the fact that some of our salvage items are not in the market place at all and can not be restocked, when you do try to restock them it says item not found in market (or something close to that).
Listen, this is just like the First Batman movie with micheal keaton, and jack nickolson.....you can't use deodorant while also using hairspray and toothpaste type of thing. Since it is still an ongoing problem, I felt the need to just spitball with everyone about the limited success I have had. I did game yesterday for about 8 hours, with about 6-7 random in-valids hitting the squad leader mostly (who was playing in the menus and restocking while in the merc quart), while I had 2-3 random in-valids hit only when I also did something by hitting a button either select or start button menus, when I didn't do anything but turn my merc around to not look at the screens in my quarters.
I still have my 4 default starter fits in their original defaults, no changes to modules or anything within them. I have my loadout's names customized (renamed) all 14 of them +the original 4 starter fits.
Can you please share how you are making your groups?
I don't know about the rest of you, but my local chat channel is so huge it never loads, don't even bother to look at it as it seems to want to keep trying to load for a good 5 minutes or more sometimes. |
Wakko03
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Posted - 2012.08.28 07:57:00 -
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I was not having the best of luck either last night, I ended up only able to get 8 games in before a 5pt skirmish bricked on the controller out to the merc quarters.
Rolling as a single player was a nightmare, when the invalid glitch didn't hit the comm channel would lock on to the team channel...
requiring a lot of restarts of the game. i got pulled into so many groups, to just explain things; like how the squad up works and the chat channels, even how to make a militia dropsuit.....so much mail came in to my ps3, let me just say it is a pain for me to type with the move so text messaging was a pain in the tuckus. I am forced to hip fire everything, and can't use most of the stuff but that is okay.....magically they will get that working perfectly for launch with no input from anyone actually using it; but again that is another issue.
You can only hide behind the "it is a beta, for so long".............wish we could get a pity post of some sort or response from someone in ccp with something other than we are not really concerned with this, we are working on the new stuff.
Well, I just want to know, are you going to let this go until the next build (because it is not an issue in that one; which will be eluded to for a long time before we actually get to play it), and could you give us a ballpark figure on if that will be in the end of september or the beginning of october.
You at ccp don't want me wasting your time, please take the same consideration for mine....how much feedback can we give when the only thing we are talking about is, how are your suits, hey they are okay.....mine are invalid, okay restart and make the group....see you in 6 minutes.
I mean something to take the stink off the past 11 days of this nonsense.
I wonder how many new players are giving up because of this and deciding to get a different game. |
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