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Tailss Prower
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.28 11:36:00 -
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PlayA Hater wrote:Actually one more question what's better to have more shield or more armour is one more resistant than the other?
nither really they both suck you want a good build I can give you one in-game as I don't want these other guys to copy me :P but shields are better because they can regen over time while armor can't |
TEBOW BAGGINS
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Posted - 2012.08.28 11:37:00 -
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Tailss Prower wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:PlayA Hater wrote:Thank you guys for the help, I think I'm gunna start pouring skills into dropships then now I know they can take abit of damage and are worth while you'll just to put up with a bunch of smacktalk from morons who think their high kill counts on leader boards mean something special.. you'll find a consistent squad very easy tho if you fly well.. that wasn't pointing out it was special just that normally me and my gunners work well enough togather that win or lose we still showed them hell while having fun
i wasn't refering to you |
Tailss Prower
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.28 11:40:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Tailss Prower wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:PlayA Hater wrote:Thank you guys for the help, I think I'm gunna start pouring skills into dropships then now I know they can take abit of damage and are worth while you'll just to put up with a bunch of smacktalk from morons who think their high kill counts on leader boards mean something special.. you'll find a consistent squad very easy tho if you fly well.. that wasn't pointing out it was special just that normally me and my gunners work well enough togather that win or lose we still showed them hell while having fun i wasn't refering to you oh my bad :P |
PlayA Hater
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.08.28 11:44:00 -
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Tailss Prower wrote:PlayA Hater wrote:Actually one more question what's better to have more shield or more armour is one more resistant than the other? nither really they both suck you want a good build I can give you one in-game as I don't want these other guys to copy me :P but shields are better because they can regen over time while armor can't
Haha fair enough, probably just go for shield then |
Tailss Prower
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.28 11:50:00 -
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PlayA Hater wrote:Tailss Prower wrote:PlayA Hater wrote:Actually one more question what's better to have more shield or more armour is one more resistant than the other? nither really they both suck you want a good build I can give you one in-game as I don't want these other guys to copy me :P but shields are better because they can regen over time while armor can't Haha fair enough, probably just go for shield then
well I'll say this my myron which is a shield tank dropship has 2500 shields and almost 2000 armor and can take around 5-10 shots given that I'm flying away from them so my shield recharge easy enough in between them my dropship acturally can last around 5-10 games easy without being shot down |
Tailss Prower
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.28 11:52:00 -
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and thats with a good few of those games have half their team focused on me with swarms which is normally how we win the game :P we distract the hell out of them but hey if you want a test run in mine so I can show ya the ropes let me know when the server comes back online or later on I'll show ya how to set it up and what to go for to make it as good as mine the rest would be your own flying skill |
PlayA Hater
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.28 12:06:00 -
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Alright might send you a message when I'm online and I can be a turret man for a bit and check out your ship |
Adaris Manpher
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Posted - 2012.08.28 12:19:00 -
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Asimov Black wrote:These new dropship physics are awesome. With the exception of landing, even a gentle landing will cause massive damage. Never-mind that **** though, I can ******* pull an Immelmann turn over missiles! Good times are ahead, if I can find a good gunner.
you lookin for an ace gunner that is me bub! |
Tailss Prower
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.28 12:30:00 -
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I'd take both of you :P and I had that same idear in mind having you gun while checking out my dropship setting I have a mic to so I can explain it while playing and having a ace gunner ehhh I need to put you to the test lets see how well your aim is when I am going at max speed under all the pipes :P |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.08.28 13:11:00 -
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I'm trying dropships again. If I lose the kitten thing while learning the controls I'm going on a rampage with my militia scout....I'm gonna miss being at the top of the charts lol >_< |
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MusterBuster Buster
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.28 13:13:00 -
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Just read through this entire thread, giggling my socks off as I went. Despite the horror stories and fail-tales, I'm STILL training to be a fly-boy :D
Does anyone have a good DS fit they'd be able to share?
MB |
Tailss Prower
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.28 13:22:00 -
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MusterBuster Buster wrote:Just read through this entire thread, giggling my socks off as I went. Despite the horror stories and fail-tales, I'm STILL training to be a fly-boy :D
Does anyone have a good DS fit they'd be able to share?
MB lol if they had one wouldn't they have shared it already while bragging ................... besides me even though I didn't share mine :P right now I don't see many or even any who use a dropship let alone can fly one hell yesterday me and my buddy who was in the gunner seat watched this one poor sap try to fly a viper we almost didn't want to shoot him and see if he would crash it was kinda sad to watch so most can't fly let alone spec right to even make it good but I'm more than happy to share in game as it would be nice to see MORE PLAYERS USING THEM kinda boring being the only guy in the air who can survive let alone fly it |
MusterBuster Buster
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.28 13:32:00 -
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Quote: lol if they had one wouldn't they have shared it already while bragging ................... besides me even though I didn't share mine :P right now I don't see many or even any who use a dropship let alone can fly one hell yesterday me and my buddy who was in the gunner seat watched this one poor sap try to fly a viper we almost didn't want to shoot him and see if he would crash it was kinda sad to watch so most can't fly let alone spec right to even make it good but I'm more than happy to share in game as it would be nice to see MORE PLAYERS USING THEM kinda boring being the only guy in the air who can survive let alone fly it
Erk - sounds tragic!
I guess it's going to take some practise time before we see some real dropship heroes in the skies. I too saw someone fly straight into a tower and plummet to the ground yesterday whilst I was looking through my scope - I lol'd, then got headshotted from half a mile away whilst distracted.
The lesson? If nothing else, bad pilots make for excellent weapons of emotional warfare and distraction :D |
TEBOW BAGGINS
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Posted - 2012.08.28 17:19:00 -
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Tailss Prower wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Tailss Prower wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:PlayA Hater wrote:Thank you guys for the help, I think I'm gunna start pouring skills into dropships then now I know they can take abit of damage and are worth while you'll just to put up with a bunch of smacktalk from morons who think their high kill counts on leader boards mean something special.. you'll find a consistent squad very easy tho if you fly well.. that wasn't pointing out it was special just that normally me and my gunners work well enough togather that win or lose we still showed them hell while having fun i wasn't refering to you oh my bad :P is ok bro.. +2 to fellow pilot
when the null sec wars happen we'll get more recognition maybe for our role.. as it is now the community basically craps on us
good dropship/pilot and good gunners cause the enemies rage meter to rise and go off the charts, making a bunch of enemy infantry go AV which weakens their offensive power on the ground vs other friendly infantry,
then they get so raged that they go out and try to kill the survivors of the crash.. best to fly your burning ship out to BFE/middle of no where causing them to the leave the ground fight to try to kill the crash survivors,
we 3 killed like 4 out 6 of them and their LAV before they killed us 3 crash survivors.. cheers and laughter ensued on our mic..
a wiser man from another MMO once said: "a pilot without an attitude is just some guy..." |
Dane Stark
Golgotha Group
178
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Posted - 2012.08.28 17:38:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: good dropship/pilot and good gunners cause the enemies rage meter to rise and go off the charts, making a bunch of enemy infantry go AV which weakens their offensive power on the ground vs other friendly infantry,
then they get so raged that they go out and try to kill the survivors of the crash.. best to fly your burning ship out to BFE/middle of no where causing them to the leave the ground fight to try to kill the crash survivors,
we 3 killed like 4 out 6 of them and their LAV before they killed us 3 crash survivors.. cheers and laughter ensued on our mic..
a wiser man from another MMO once said: "a pilot without an attitude is just some guy..."
Brav-f-ing-O! |
Sees-Too-Much
332
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Posted - 2012.08.28 17:40:00 -
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This thread confuses me. Many of you are posting Myron fits with less eHP than mine, but claiming that you can tank more shots than mine by several times over.
You claim that dodging swarms is a simple matter of "moving left and right" or "outrunning them" but when I run full speed they catch up and when I pull sharp turns or duck behind buildings they turn faster and hit me. Clearly everyone but me has magical dropships.
Nerf every dropship but mine! |
TEBOW BAGGINS
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Posted - 2012.08.28 17:45:00 -
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^^^ Sees I don't have the luxury of taking exact count of SL's my new ship can take, I had to take my best guess..
I made a new ship with the SP I had banked up after you logged out.
The Viper is trash. |
Sees-Too-Much
332
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Posted - 2012.08.28 17:49:00 -
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I wasn't even referring to that, though I'm sure we gave them much more of a fight than they were expecting.
I'm referring to the DS pilots who claim they can "easily" avoid swarms. I have yet to find such a technique. Perhaps...more altitude? I have noticed that the DS seems to go faster when you're higher up. BTW, CCP, we need an altimeter and spedometer in our dropships!
Also, someone earlier mentioned shield rechargers. I'm going to tinker with my fits later and see if I can get a more effective fit by using rechargers rather than boosters. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
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Posted - 2012.08.28 17:53:00 -
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Sees-Too-Much wrote:I wasn't even referring to that, though I'm sure we gave them much more of a fight than they were expecting. I'm referring to the DS pilots who claim they can "easily" avoid swarms. I have yet to find such a technique. Perhaps...more altitude? I have noticed that the DS seems to go faster when you're higher up. BTW, CCP, we need an altimeter and spedometer in our dropships! Also, someone earlier mentioned shield rechargers. I'm going to tinker with my fits later and see if I can get a more effective fit by using rechargers rather than boosters.
my bad sees.. confusion abroad today lol..
i had some luck with rechargers last build.. it's like a passive shield tank in EVE.. it's really hard to say if a booster or chargers is better. I'm wondering if we're getting capicitors on the ships soon, where boosters take cap like they do in EVE.
that would be sick if we both flew dropships the same match, with one gunner on mic each.. (+a random gunner or none at all, as long as we have 1 gunner each on the mic) and then coordinate attacks from the cockpits next time we squad..
see you next time |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.08.28 17:57:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I'm trying dropships again. If I lose the kitten thing while learning the controls I'm going on a rampage with my militia scout....I'm gonna miss being at the top of the charts lol >_<
Better to be on top of the battlefield than on top of the short sighted KDR leader board. |
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Tailss Prower
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.30 07:57:00 -
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ok then you guys want the best fit I have come up with so FAR I'll give each and everyone of you the fit but it will only work with your own skill added on
I got a myron with 3 shield amps on which each take off 25% dmg but what ever penalty their is and 1 shield extender plus with my shield management skill at around lvl 2-3 I got around 2600 hp on shield and got a armor booster plus with skill puts it at around 1900 armor you don't need this but you can have it to help and a merc piece of **** 10% amp on that and I use the At1 rockets so gunners hurt like a ************ when they hit something or someone now if you want more speed add instead of the armor and armor amp put the chassie upgrade which lowers armor for more speed the rest depends on you and your piloting skills now me I can at last and outrun swarms all day long as long as I don't make a mistake or use bad judgement but there are a rare few who happen to get me and I will say this with this setup even the ******* railgun instalation needs at least 3-5 shots to get you to armor so tanks are not to big a threat unless you let them get to where they can hit you :P enjoy guys I hope to see more in the air to **** around with but I will say this I am working on other possible builds so if you keep in touch with me I might give you a better one and I can come up with builds for more than just a dropship so just ask and I may be nice like this :P
BYE NOW :P :P :P |
PlayA Hater
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.08.30 09:49:00 -
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Yes!! Last night I took out a tank with my dropship first time ever that has happened, must of been a really bad tank fit haha |
PlayA Hater
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.08.30 09:52:00 -
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And you guys were right with enough modules on the ship you can take a fair amount of beating, I'm very close to get the myron but even in the viper I could take some damage. So I can only imagine what the next tier is like
Also very close to surviving an entire round, there was only 4 kills left in ambush and them bam dead |
Ferocitan
22
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:13:00 -
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What dropships do you regularry fly then? And survive longest with. So far my viper and gorgon can survive for minutes if hit 1 time with rail/forge if I evade the ground. |
STB-Quickgloves EV
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
527
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:19:00 -
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seriously agree to this thread but i also cannot land.. lol landing is more or less i wonder how late i can actiate my inrtia dampner.. lol as my dropship plummets towards an objective squishing red dots lol |
PlayA Hater
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:24:00 -
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I have got alright at landing,what I do if I'm going forward and I want to land I push back on the left stick and push l1 to slow me down then level out and just press l2 slightly to slowly lower myself this is probably obvious imfomation. Also I have found out that if you just use the right stick for flying it's more stable but you can't turn quite as quickly. |
Sees-Too-Much
332
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Posted - 2012.08.30 13:15:00 -
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Tailss Prower wrote:ok then you guys want the best fit I have come up with so FAR I'll give each and everyone of you the fit but it will only work with your own skill added on
I got a myron with 3 shield amps on which each take off 25% dmg but what ever penalty their is and 1 shield extender plus with my shield management skill at around lvl 2-3 I got around 2600 hp on shield and got a armor booster plus with skill puts it at around 1900 armor you don't need this but you can have it to help and a merc piece of **** 10% amp on that and I use the At1 rockets so gunners hurt like a ************ when they hit something or someone now if you want more speed add instead of the armor and armor amp put the chassie upgrade which lowers armor for more speed the rest depends on you and your piloting skills now me I can at last and outrun swarms all day long as long as I don't make a mistake or use bad judgement but there are a rare few who happen to get me and I will say this with this setup even the ******* railgun instalation needs at least 3-5 shots to get you to armor so tanks are not to big a threat unless you let them get to where they can hit you :P enjoy guys I hope to see more in the air to **** around with but I will say this I am working on other possible builds so if you keep in touch with me I might give you a better one and I can come up with builds for more than just a dropship so just ask and I may be nice like this :P
BYE NOW :P :P :P
With the penalties one of those resist mods is only doing about 14.25% resist. If you can use the high quality DCUs they have a 14% resist bonus to shields AND armor while costing WAY less CPU. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.08.30 13:35:00 -
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Skihids wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I'm trying dropships again. If I lose the kitten thing while learning the controls I'm going on a rampage with my militia scout....I'm gonna miss being at the top of the charts lol >_< Better to be on top of the battlefield than on top of the short sighted KDR leader board.
My Skill Point and ISK gains beg to differ.... |
hupi testi
22
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Posted - 2012.08.30 17:45:00 -
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Kittens me! These dropships are a blast. Kitten to fly, but extremely enjoyable eventhough I have crashed 2 out of 2 that I have flown. Flight controls need to get used to, but love the fluidity of flight and feeling of actually flying something.
Oh man, first time I even got to take of and flew around in one of the smaller maps which takes place in that complex building. In my exitement started to experiment with diving from high and when closer to surface pull up. All went well until that red-line went past me... Ooo kittens!
Second time ended allso ditching my DS for trying to make a loop.
By the way is there any way to position the camera more downwards, so that I can see where I'm landing? Was able to land on one of those towers, but took a sweet time.
Now I have to note that I have only been in beta for few days so I don't know last builds flight mechanics. So in that front I don't have past experience to compare to, but if they were more *arcade* like then I think I'll like this current system more. |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.08.30 17:56:00 -
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hupi testi wrote:Kittens me! These dropships are a blast. Kitten to fly, but extremely enjoyable eventhough I have crashed 2 out of 2 that I have flown. Flight controls need to get used to, but love the fluidity of flight and feeling of actually flying something. Oh man, first time I even got to take of and flew around in one of the smaller maps which takes place in that complex building. In my exitement started to experiment with diving from high and when closer to surface pull up. All went well until that red-line went past me... Ooo kittens! Second time ended allso ditching my DS for trying to make a loop. By the way is there any way to position the camera more downwards, so that I can see where I'm landing? Was able to land on one of those towers, but took a sweet time. Now I have to note that I have only been in beta for few days so I don't know last builds flight mechanics. So in that front I don't have past experience to compare to, but if they were more *arcade* like then I think I'll like this current system more.
Pull back on the R stick and the external camera will rotate up over the ship ( yeah, that feels backward ).
I believe a good part of new pilots control problems come from confusing the camera view shift for pitching the ship. |
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