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STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.18 20:08:00 -
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Virex Staz wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:No offense but you should stick to eve, higher dusters to do your will. No offence taken. In Eve I'm a bittervet; been there, done that. Class 6 wormholes became routine so back to flying around lowsec in a rifter for kicks. If I need a planet taken then I'll have my Eve char drop a few hundred million / a few billion / whatever. I certainly won't try and do it single-handed in Dust with my pi**-poor skills. If I need to kick back and have fun of an evening I'll die a lot in Dust and (maybe) learn a thing or two.
Ever thought of funding a corp? Stb could use some funding in the full game |
sendeth
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.18 20:18:00 -
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1 - you will improve with skills
2 - watch your mini map
3 - talk to people
4 - use on this rule: anyone can get a kill; work on staying alive. i can't stress this enough.
5 - use cover
6 - stay near allies (see rule 3)
7 - stay out of the open (see rule 5)
8 - teamwork
9 - teamwork
10 - teamwork
after all of this, if you are still having problems then focus on support. be a medic, give out ammo, rep peoples armor, repair structures. tbh you will be more valuable doing this stuff rather than trying to kill and people will LOVE you. trust me when i tell you that people will think much more highly of you and you will be a more valuable member of your team if you are the guy that gets 20+ revives or reps 20+ heavy suits rather than the guy who gets 20+ kills. |
Virex Staz
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
53
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Posted - 2012.08.18 22:13:00 -
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sendeth wrote:
3 - talk to people
How?
Does voice comms work? I've had a headset plugged in all evening, and have been trying regular comms checks, but with no success. I've enabled voice and push-to-talk in the options (and yes, I *am* pushing the PTT button).
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Mr TamiyaCowboy
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
121
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Posted - 2012.08.18 22:19:00 -
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Virex Staz wrote:sendeth wrote:
3 - talk to people
How? Does voice comms work? I've had a headset plugged in all evening, and have been trying regular comms checks, but with no success. I've enabled voice and push-to-talk in the options (and yes, I *am* pushing the PTT button).
yeah it works, but most keep quiet they to scared incase they sound ghey.
or are female and dont want to be duster stalked |
CLONE 2774
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
83
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Posted - 2012.08.18 22:20:00 -
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Virex Staz wrote:I'm an Eve player and Dust is the first console multiplayer FPS I've ever played. I therefore suck, really, really badly.
I think I managed to get a kill once, and I've had a couple of assists, but I've died hundreds of times. I can empty entire magazines at someone then they'll casually turn round and kill me with one shot. I have virtually no clue what is going on around me. Whichever team I'm on always seems to lose, and I'm worried its my fault.
What are the most important things I need to be doing to improve my game to just "bad"?
Please include all the really obvious stuff, by the way, as it probably isn't obvious to me, and include hardware setup, pre-fight prep and combat stuff. Also, any attempt to rank the advice in terms of how much it will improve my game ("do this first") will be appreciated.
Or, if there is a page/post somewhere that has all this already, just link it and call me a moron.
Thats me back in 2009.Anyway im pro now and i have exellent aim now.Dont worry its natural to have sucky aim at first.But eventually you will aim a controller just as good as a mouse.I now get like 15 kills before dying in dust 514.Trust me aiming with a controller will be a breeze in no time. |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.18 22:22:00 -
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Practice is the key. One bit of advice is to strafe to fine tune your aim. Especially when the enemy is not too close your turning might go past the person if they just move to the side. if you move to the side then it should follow the other person. Up close this will help you get out of his line of fire.
Also ignore the trolls, although i am sure you learned that in EVE  You dont want to catch an STB, I mean an STD.  |
carl von oppenheimer
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2012.08.18 22:26:00 -
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Virex Staz wrote:sendeth wrote:
3 - talk to people
How? Does voice comms work? I've had a headset plugged in all evening, and have been trying regular comms checks, but with no success. I've enabled voice and push-to-talk in the options (and yes, I *am* pushing the PTT button).
PTT doesn't work properly, turn it off and use the built in mute if your head set has a one. |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.18 22:28:00 -
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SILENTSAM 69 wrote:Practice is the key. One bit of advice is to strafe to fine tune your aim. Especially when the enemy is not too close your turning might go past the person if they just move to the side. if you move to the side then it should follow the other person. Up close this will help you get out of his line of fire. Also ignore the trolls, although i am sure you learned that in EVE You dont want to catch an STB, I mean an STD.
Problem with STB? |
Laz Ulian Sol
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
187
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Posted - 2012.08.19 01:12:00 -
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There are a lot of helpful posts in this thread that more people really ought to see. It's amazing how many people are actually interested in positive forum use for once instead of trolling and complaining.
This is exactly what this forum should be about, helping your fellow duster. |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2012.08.19 01:39:00 -
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Virex Staz wrote:sendeth wrote:
3 - talk to people
How? Does voice comms work? I've had a headset plugged in all evening, and have been trying regular comms checks, but with no success. I've enabled voice and push-to-talk in the options (and yes, I *am* pushing the PTT button).
yah just disable push to talk. also there are seperate channels in game for squad and team. try hopping into the team channel and see if anyone is talking there.
you swap by hitting select in game or in the war barge, you'll see a team tab, when you click on it you'll get a prompt to "enable voice" and that'll swap you to the team wide channel.
of course then you can't hear people in the squad channels, even YOUR squad but... eh. |
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Altessan Vigarde
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
84
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Posted - 2012.08.19 02:00:00 -
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My best advice is to find some other people in game and stick with them. There's strength in numbers. Every time I've gone against multiple enemies alone I've lost badly, every time we out number the enemy we almost always win. |
sendeth
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
45
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Posted - 2012.08.19 02:16:00 -
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everyone should be joining the team channel. some people don't know how yet. the separate squad channels are more for organized groups. like it you want one squad of people to defend a certain build and worry about nothing else then they can go into their own channel. if this game end up with the same tactics a method on eve, i think there will be some very coordinated fights when it is launched and people get organized. |
Jarre Jardox
Cool Story But It Needs More EVE
30
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Posted - 2012.08.19 02:35:00 -
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The most important tip that nobody has given yet is get on voice chat even if u don't have a mic cus really for a newbie fpser its important to know where the beast tank or proto heavy is so u can avoid those areas. Then second would be what everyone else has said teamwork. Remember the sp u get at the end isn't directly related to the kills u get its related to ur war points and even assists earn war points. Stick with a buddy and even better get in a squad before a match cus someone will eventually start to help u out u just have to keep asking. Third I would have to say is know ur weapons and wat they are good at assault rifles are typically medium to close range, smgs are close combat weapons, if ur going the swarm route someone suggested don't run around with it thts a terrible idea cus they are terrible anti infantry weapons and slow u down incredibly. Other than tht its just about practice. |
Lonewolf514
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Posted - 2012.08.19 02:39:00 -
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whats the jetpack key? i cant seem to get off the ground :( |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.08.19 04:15:00 -
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Stick at it is all I can say. First time I picked up a PS3 controler was for dust and it seems its basicly just a case of putting in the hours. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2012.08.19 11:46:00 -
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carl von oppenheimer wrote:Virex Staz wrote:sendeth wrote:
3 - talk to people
How? Does voice comms work? I've had a headset plugged in all evening, and have been trying regular comms checks, but with no success. I've enabled voice and push-to-talk in the options (and yes, I *am* pushing the PTT button). PTT doesn't work properly, turn it off and use the built in mute if your head set has a one.
It also doesn't help that because voice defaults to "off" most players don't realise they need to fix that. |
Trinity Ashima
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.19 12:34:00 -
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Virex Staz wrote:I'm an Eve player and Dust is the first console multiplayer FPS I've ever played. I therefore suck, really, really badly.
I think I managed to get a kill once, and I've had a couple of assists, but I've died hundreds of times. I can empty entire magazines at someone then they'll casually turn round and kill me with one shot. I have virtually no clue what is going on around me. Whichever team I'm on always seems to lose, and I'm worried its my fault.
What are the most important things I need to be doing to improve my game to just "bad"?
Please include all the really obvious stuff, by the way, as it probably isn't obvious to me, and include hardware setup, pre-fight prep and combat stuff. Also, any attempt to rank the advice in terms of how much it will improve my game ("do this first") will be appreciated.
Or, if there is a page/post somewhere that has all this already, just link it and call me a moron.
First off FPS requires a completely different set of skills that eve does, I in no way mean this insultingly but it may just be that you are crap at playing FPS. Not everyone is good at playing cross genre. That being said it could be that you just need practice.
Second all console shooters are crap when it comes to controls (from the prospective of a PC player). I personally suck at using the controller for FPS, I'm a mouse and keyboard person but don't have a spare keybaord and from what I'm seeing on forums the mouse support is terrible anyway.
Play something that requires less shooting. I personally like logistics class in this game because it has a decent weapon but is more about supporting other players. Maybe you might enjoy that more. I'm also a great fan of logistic dropships, which is no shooting what so ever. I like the whole avoiding getting shot while not being able to shoot back thing, find it nice and challenging.
Even if you are bad at the shooting doesn't mean you can't be useful since the main focus of this game is pushing objectives and team play. |
howard sanchez
Conspiratus Immortalis
448
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Posted - 2012.08.19 15:47:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Stick at it is all I can say. First time I picked up a PS3 controler was for dust and it seems its basicly just a case of putting in the hours.
Thanks for saying this, Sha Karn, DUST is my first fps too. Probably played 30 minutes of battlefield 3 in my life - hated it. Love eve. CCP announce dust. Great, now what do Ido?
And to hear you,someone I think of as a more skilled player than myself, is encorouging. Because,as a fellow struggling neophyte fps'r, this crap is HARD to learn!
Just prior to this wipe I had 17.5million sp in a verybroadrange of skills over about 30+ days of beta @ ~4hrs/day when game up.
What is that? Around 60ish hrs of playtime? That sounds like more than I have played ; probably over estimating my hrs. But my point is I was just beginning to really feel the hand eye comfort level kicking in then. Unless CCP has scaled equipment/skill and game mechanics to a well balanced pace, it is taking me a LOT of hours of grinding to get the fps thing. |
Karyld Ulvaer
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.08.19 16:56:00 -
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Couldn't see anybody mentioning this - keep in mind that when you've just started out, you barely have any character skills, the range of your weapons will be incredibly poor. Even if you see an enemy and fire at him and you're sure you should hit, he might just be out of range of your gun. So I'd recommend, depending on what kind of weapon you'll be using, that when you get enough skill points you should put them into the Light Weapon Sharpshooter skill (which will affect the assault rifle, shotgun and sniper rifle). When you've maxed out, or at least is at level 3 at that skill, it will increase the range of the weapons to a degree that you should be able to hit most enemies you can see in somewhat close quarters combat. When you've taken the gun range problems out of the equation, it'll be much easier to learn the other parts, I think. Then when you've figured out what kind of weapon you feel best with, max out Weaponry and then the skill trees for your weapon of choice (if you - like most - will go with assault rifles, you should probably first do weaponry, then assault rifle operation, light weapon ammo capacity and assault rifle proficiency). All so you can start learning to play with YOUR skills, rather than struggling against the artificial skill limitations that the game puts on you. |
Virex Staz
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
53
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Posted - 2012.08.22 00:03:00 -
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I had no idea you could press the zoom button and fire at the same time. No wonder I was missing a lot!
Obvious stuff is not obvious. |
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The Polish Hammer
Doomheim
373
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Posted - 2012.08.22 00:25:00 -
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There's really nothing much to add to everything that has been said, although, this is a FANTASTIC example of the community feel that has been spoken of by people in past forum posts. Great job to all the people who have given advice :D
/endasskissing |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.22 01:00:00 -
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Virex Staz wrote:I'm an Eve player and Dust is the first console multiplayer FPS I've ever played. I therefore suck, really, really badly.
I think I managed to get a kill once, and I've had a couple of assists, but I've died hundreds of times. I can empty entire magazines at someone then they'll casually turn round and kill me with one shot. I have virtually no clue what is going on around me. Whichever team I'm on always seems to lose, and I'm worried its my fault.
What are the most important things I need to be doing to improve my game to just "bad"?
Please include all the really obvious stuff, by the way, as it probably isn't obvious to me, and include hardware setup, pre-fight prep and combat stuff. Also, any attempt to rank the advice in terms of how much it will improve my game ("do this first") will be appreciated.
Or, if there is a page/post somewhere that has all this already, just link it and call me a moron.
hey bro if you wanna try my squad we can put you on.. we're won't berate you as long as you can follow the squad orders which we are constantly changing on the mic and be cool. (my voice sometimes gets excited but it';s because I'm excited when things are getting hot not because I'm mad at anyone) your skillz is not a big issue we have that locked down.. we are like a democracy in between games and we vote on if to take a break or not and for how long, and we recommend what equipment to pack based on certain things..
i guess i'm forming a new squad atm because i just rebooted due to invalid fit.. and we can only form 4 man squads at this time |
Virex Staz
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
53
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Posted - 2012.08.22 18:21:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:hey bro if you wanna try my squad we can put you on.. we're won't berate you as long as you can follow the squad orders which we are constantly changing on the mic and be cool.
When I don't follow orders it is invariably through incompetence rather than insubordination 
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