DUST Search - Ambush Maps

Dillan NightStorm wrote:

Mathiassen wrote:

What is being forgotten is this feature will be along side the Battle Finder at final. In that release, Instant Battle will only be for when you don't care what mode and just want to play.

Since we've already tested the heck out of Battle Finder, we need to test Instant Battle. The reason why the Instant Battles are any game mode is because that's also a part of the calculations for finding a battle for you, and thus need testing.

Though, not sure why people are in outcry over Ambush/TDM.

The only gripe I have with it is some levels are not designed with vehicles in mind, so when someone spawns a vehicle, it becomes very broken.

What you fail to realise is that if Instant Battle is in there in it's current form I WILL NEVER USE IT!

I do not want to play Ambush/TDM I feel it is a inferior game mode and will never play it so if Instant Battle is going to be there in it's current form without any form of filter then I for one will not be using it! As this is the only mode there is in game of finding a match then I am no longer testing it.

Why can't people see this. What we are complaining about is the fact that you are FORCED to play a game mode you do not want to play when selecting Instant Battle. There will be other game modes, one would hope, and if there is going to be an instant battle option there needs to be a filter in it to allow you to select the type of battle you want to play.

The problem with TDM in any game is it takes no thought and imagination to create it. Would you go to a paintball match and be happy with being shoved in a square room with the opposing team and told the door will be locked for 3hrs have fun!

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Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2012.08.17 22:25:00 - [1] - Quote If were going to be forced to use instant battle can we get rid of ambush maps? Sick of spawning in the middle of a group of reds only to instantly die.
Trinity Ashima Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 32	Posted - 2012.08.17 22:28:00 - [2] - Quote I'd like to see a filter for which battle types it will place you in to. Lets face it this needs to go in now since some people only like objective, some people only like team death match. This is a beta but since we're testing it for free people aren't going to play something they don't like so CCP is killing themselves feedback wise (at least with people who actually provide feedback and bug reports.)
Carilito Algintal Core Gallente Federation 345	Posted - 2012.08.17 22:35:00 - [3] - Quote Ambush just isnt a great game for anyone that isnt infantry spec
jimmyfishy 4	Posted - 2012.08.17 22:36:00 - [4] - Quote Or at least throw in Skirmish map's I cant handle all ambush all the time
Trinity Ashima Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 32	Posted - 2012.08.17 22:36:00 - [5] - Quote Ok from what I can see it's all ambush. This is not good.
crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.08.17 22:44:00 - [6] - Quote Um the weekend with 3000 players how many were playing ambush? 324 . No one likes ambush its a good map for testing new gear , but most of the time we want to be in skrimish.
jackbubu United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 24	Posted - 2012.08.17 22:46:00 - [7] - Quote I just had a skirmish map via the instant battle, i guess you are just unlucky :D
jimmyfishy 4	Posted - 2012.08.17 22:48:00 - [8] - Quote jackbubu wrote: I just had a skirmish map via the instant battle, i guess you are just unlucky :D I knew I should have stocked up on Karma during the week
Carilito Algintal Core Gallente Federation 345	Posted - 2012.08.17 22:50:00 - [9] - Quote Its a mix bag with alot of ambush
jackbubu United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 24	Posted - 2012.08.17 22:50:00 - [10] - Quote and it was a new map to me aswell, 2 MCCs battling it out over a new map layout that had biomass and plateau structures and some new skyscrapers on it
panoscape01 Doomheim 71	Posted - 2012.08.17 22:51:00 - [11] - Quote Hate the instant battle. This will definitely affect my time playing... as in, not very much. Routine: load instant battle, if it's an ambush game then exit game, repeat till skirmish game loads.
Trinity Ashima Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 32	Posted - 2012.08.17 22:57:00 - [12] - Quote I have left feedback about this in the feedback forum. Tried to link it here but it wouldn't let me for some reason. Please add to it if you feel it's a problem. I only play objective based shooters online really because that's what I enjoy. I only play deathmatch with people in the same room usually, or at least with friends over skype or something. I can't stand games like COD that promote lone-wolf playstyles. I'm sorry CCP but if you want my time and feedback for free you have to make it worth my time and enjoyable. At the moment I am not inclined to play.
Debacle Nano Shadow Company HQ 639	Posted - 2012.08.17 22:59:00 - [13] - Quote I just want battlefinder back....
Trinity Ashima Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 32	Posted - 2012.08.17 23:07:00 - [14] - Quote Debacle Nano wrote: I just want battlefinder back.... Then go say something about it in feedback. That's where they will check most likely. It's a valid complaint just be polite about it.
Dillan NightStorm Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 70	Posted - 2012.08.18 10:51:00 - [15] - Quote Started up the game to play the new build, Seen that Ambush was the only game mode available, Turned off Playstation! Get rid of this crap game mode please for gods sake!
D'Finn Rhedlyne Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 266	Posted - 2012.08.18 11:46:00 - [16] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: If were going to be forced to use instant battle can we get rid of ambush maps? Sick of spawning in the middle of a group of reds only to instantly die. Tip: Always have an RE at the ready... you die... they die!
Korey Sangrenta Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 16	Posted - 2012.08.18 12:07:00 - [17] - Quote I was playing after then did there little reset to fix the victory screen of doom And I got several skirmishes in Instant battle. The ambush thing in the battle finder is just a place holder
BlacMage Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 59	Posted - 2012.08.18 13:08:00 - [18] - Quote Carilito wrote: Ambush just isnt a great game for anyone that isnt infantry spec This. I have had Ambush matches that I was able to help a lot in as a Medic\uplink logistic, but I was playing at a large disadvantage the whole time. I know Ambush is great for the ten minute match FPS fan, but please give us the option. Show love for both groups^^
Dillan NightStorm Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 70	Posted - 2012.08.18 17:12:00 - [19] - Quote Is there a Skirmish mode in? If there is I might play again however if there is not and i keep getting Ambush I am sure as hell not going to be playing this for long! Remove Ambush or lose a player base. I really don't want to play that horrible game mode as I'm sure many many others will also. If there is a Skirmish available then there needs to be a way to select skirmish only.
Badly Owned xOne Man Armyx 49	Posted - 2012.08.18 17:18:00 - [20] - Quote Stfu, use instant battle and help test there match making system. As a beta tester it's your duty. If you get a game mode yea do not like then leave, and do instant battle again. Test it till you break it!!!!!! Edit BTW there are least 3 different skirmish modes I have seen so far.
Evane Sa'edi Celtic Anarchy 62	Posted - 2012.08.18 17:30:00 - [21] - Quote The ambush game ratio is too large in the autoselection settings. CCP should change it so that its either 1:1 ambush to skirmish or introduce a player controlled selection on what type of game to play. How can I test the new Assault Swarm Launcher (with the double lock) if all the games I am placed in are the running gun battle at close quarters of an ambush game PLEASE, open up the skirmish objective based maps to wider selection
DPyro WSG Wraith Shadow Guards 12	Posted - 2012.08.18 17:31:00 - [22] - Quote Ambush mode is completely ********. I got more kills in that mode by just spawning a vehicle and running people over.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.08.18 18:06:00 - [23] - Quote Battle Finder still exists in my MQ. Not sure why you can't find it.
Dillan NightStorm Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 70	Posted - 2012.08.19 03:12:00 - [24] - Quote I can not see why a 1:1 Ambush to Skirmish ratio would help you will still be thrown into a crap game mode you don't like playing. Please remove it and put back in the game selection window we had before. I realise CCP are testing out game selection modes but they will hardly be able to test a thing if people just stop playing the game like me because they detest Ambush/TDM!
Mathiassen New Eden Regimental Navy Rebel Alliance of New Eden 8	Posted - 2012.08.19 04:12:00 - [25] - Quote What is being forgotten is this feature will be along side the Battle Finder at final. In that release, Instant Battle will only be for when you don't care what mode and just want to play. Since we've already tested the heck out of Battle Finder, we need to test Instant Battle. The reason why the Instant Battles are any game mode is because that's also a part of the calculations for finding a battle for you, and thus need testing. Though, not sure why people are in outcry over Ambush/TDM. The only gripe I have with it is some levels are not designed with vehicles in mind, so when someone spawns a vehicle, it becomes very broken.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.08.19 04:15:00 - [26] - Quote The only issue with TDM is the fact that the maps are way too big and the spawns are horrendous.
Dillan NightStorm Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 70	Posted - 2012.08.19 10:12:00 - [27] - Quote Mathiassen wrote: What is being forgotten is this feature will be along side the Battle Finder at final. In that release, Instant Battle will only be for when you don't care what mode and just want to play. Since we've already tested the heck out of Battle Finder, we need to test Instant Battle. The reason why the Instant Battles are any game mode is because that's also a part of the calculations for finding a battle for you, and thus need testing. Though, not sure why people are in outcry over Ambush/TDM. The only gripe I have with it is some levels are not designed with vehicles in mind, so when someone spawns a vehicle, it becomes very broken. What you fail to realise is that if Instant Battle is in there in it's current form I WILL NEVER USE IT! I do not want to play Ambush/TDM I feel it is a inferior game mode and will never play it so if Instant Battle is going to be there in it's current form without any form of filter then I for one will not be using it! As this is the only mode there is in game of finding a match then I am no longer testing it. Why can't people see this. What we are complaining about is the fact that you are FORCED to play a game mode you do not want to play when selecting Instant Battle. There will be other game modes, one would hope, and if there is going to be an instant battle option there needs to be a filter in it to allow you to select the type of battle you want to play. The problem with TDM in any game is it takes no thought and imagination to create it. Would you go to a paintball match and be happy with being shoved in a square room with the opposing team and told the door will be locked for 3hrs have fun!
Antonius Dacinci Bragian Order Amarr Empire 65	Posted - 2012.08.19 10:15:00 - [28] - Quote Dillan NightStorm wrote: Mathiassen wrote: What is being forgotten is this feature will be along side the Battle Finder at final. In that release, Instant Battle will only be for when you don't care what mode and just want to play. Since we've already tested the heck out of Battle Finder, we need to test Instant Battle. The reason why the Instant Battles are any game mode is because that's also a part of the calculations for finding a battle for you, and thus need testing. Though, not sure why people are in outcry over Ambush/TDM. The only gripe I have with it is some levels are not designed with vehicles in mind, so when someone spawns a vehicle, it becomes very broken. What you fail to realise is that if Instant Battle is in there in it's current form I WILL NEVER USE IT! I do not want to play Ambush/TDM I feel it is a inferior game mode and will never play it so if Instant Battle is going to be there in it's current form without any form of filter then I for one will not be using it! As this is the only mode there is in game of finding a match then I am no longer testing it. Why can't people see this. What we are complaining about is the fact that you are FORCED to play a game mode you do not want to play when selecting Instant Battle. There will be other game modes, one would hope, and if there is going to be an instant battle option there needs to be a filter in it to allow you to select the type of battle you want to play. The problem with TDM in any game is it takes no thought and imagination to create it. Would you go to a paintball match and be happy with being shoved in a square room with the opposing team and told the door will be locked for 3hrs have fun! WElcome to beta, get over it.
Dillan NightStorm Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 70	Posted - 2012.08.19 10:24:00 - [29] - Quote Antonius Dacinci wrote: WElcome to beta, get over it. LOL dude if I didn't work for a Beta testing group and been beta testing games for almost 20 years I'd have told you to come up with a better line but I realise these days any idiot can join in on a beta and generally they aren't educated enough to come up with decent responses. So I'll ignore a response like this and move on!
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.08.19 11:08:00 - [30] - Quote Dillan NightStorm wrote: Antonius Dacinci wrote: WElcome to beta, get over it. LOL dude if I didn't work for a Beta testing group and been beta testing games for almost 20 years I'd have told you to come up with a better line but I realise these days any idiot can join in on a beta and generally they aren't educated enough to come up with decent responses. So I'll ignore a response like this and move on! Except that he's actually making a far more relevant point than you're giving him credit for. Beta = testing. We're in a beta = we're here to test things. Right now, CCP need the Instant Battle system tested, so that's the primary matchmaking option for now. Use it, find out how and why it breaks, and that, along with CCP's stat tracking, will tell them what's a problem, what needs fixing, and what works or doesn't. That's what testing IS. You can't have been a very GOOD tester if you didn't know that already.

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