DUST Search - Explaination of what "Free to play" means

J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:

Somebody around here has a superiority complex... 0_o

No, the problem here is that you see "Free 2 Play" as "Free 2 Download and Play Only".

Those who disagree (including me) say that "Free 2 Play" means not only "Play", but have as likely a given chance of winning with NO MONEY sunk into it. If I can play all I want, but those who pay have a much higher chance of winning if we are evenly matched in skill (say, if AUR dropsuits had 10,000 shield hp and were OP), then I regard the Game as Pay 2 Win.

In essence,
You are happy to be able to play a game thats explicitly advertised as "Free 2 Play" and not "Pay 2 Win", and have to pay for features that many regard as a must have in a teamwork based game, such as Corp and Alliance chat.

Others regard that as a fallacy and point out this:
That by making key features or parts of the game that are key to success unavailable to the "free" players, you have compromised the integrity of your promise of making a quality free 2 play non p2w game.

Therefore, I reject your (rather condescending) argument, as I do not regard a game with useful features barred off to the free players as a true "Free 2 Play" game.

Now lets face it, this is mostly about UVTs. I regard them as a bad idea not in use but in ideals, as it keaves a kind of bitter taste in a game thats "Free" to have to pay for voice comms on private chats. And fo be honest, will they even be used when you can just squad up with a friend and talk? Also, the whole argument about DUST/EVE connectivity.

Long story short, you can call a bus a Lamborghini if you want to, but everyone else is going to see it for what it is and call it a bus.

Have a nice evening. :)


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Dzark Kill Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 115	Posted - 2012.08.17 09:31:00 - [1] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Somebody around here has a superiority complex... 0_o No, the problem here is that you see "Free 2 Play" as "Free 2 Download and Play Only". Those who disagree (including me) say that "Free 2 Play" means not only "Play", but have as likely a given chance of winning with NO MONEY sunk into it. If I can play all I want, but those who pay have a much higher chance of winning if we are evenly matched in skill (say, if AUR dropsuits had 10,000 shield hp and were OP), then I regard the Game as Pay 2 Win. In essence, You are happy to be able to play a game thats explicitly advertised as "Free 2 Play" and not "Pay 2 Win", and have to pay for features that many regard as a must have in a teamwork based game, such as Corp and Alliance chat. Others regard that as a fallacy and point out this: That by making key features or parts of the game that are key to success unavailable to the "free" players, you have compromised the integrity of your promise of making a quality free 2 play non p2w game. Therefore, I reject your (rather condescending) argument, as I do not regard a game with useful features barred off to the free players as a true "Free 2 Play" game. Now lets face it, this is mostly about UVTs. I regard them as a bad idea not in use but in ideals, as it keaves a kind of bitter taste in a game thats "Free" to have to pay for voice comms on private chats. And fo be honest, will they even be used when you can just squad up with a friend and talk? Also, the whole argument about DUST/EVE connectivity. Long story short, you can call a bus a Lamborghini if you want to, but everyone else is going to see it for what it is and call it a bus. Have a nice evening. :) I can log in to Dust without spending a penny. I can start a game without spending a penny. I can talk to every player on my team in that game without spending a penny. I can equip items that are more powerful than Aurum items (read officer mods) without spending a penny. My team can kill the opposition repeatedly without spending a penny. Now please rather than whining about a concept that has been made up in your head with no real evidence that concept is correct, explain exactly how my team above would be defeated. ( Unless im mistaken and these UVT token's can be thrown at the enemy causing 1,000,000 to every player in a 10Km radius which i doubt) If you dont want to spend aurum chatting to people who wont affect the battle too much then pick up you mobile, load skype on your PC, pick up your land line send a text message. There a plenty of ways you can get the exact same functionallity of what people currently assume UVT are for which brings me to my final point. Wait for the mechanic to be fully explained by CCP before passing judgement. Untill then ill keep playing beta without spending a penny and winning on this perfect example of a FREE to WIN game. Peace out.