Not tanks, vehicles. Dropships and lav should go down 1vs1 well enough. I lost a lot of hav to forge gunners last build.
pistols are a high damage weapon, breach is over a hundred per hit, close to 200 with good skills and weapon mods.

Soloing a HAV should be impossible.

I leveled up my heavy last build to proto everything and the most I could ever take is 1 hit and die on the second that was all armor and shield no regeneration so that it had the highest chance of surviving.

So I am wondering if the heavy has lost its original role. Its more for anti infantry in closed in areas.

It says it can withstand small arms fire. Well tell that to pistol Pete who puts me down with 2-3 shots?

The new build has better overheat reduction, but weaker armor and shields, any thoughts


Here is the ccp description of the heavy
HEAVY

The Heavy dropsuit is a second-generation solution designed to withstand concentrated small arms fire and protect the wearer from the concussive, thermal, and impact forces of low-grade explosives. Additionally, its power-assisted exoskeleton facilitates usage of the heaviest caliber personal weapons. Heavy dropsuits lack the mobility of lighter suits, but this trade-off results in a defensive system that defies standard infantry conventions. No other classification of personal armor can claim to be able to stand toe-to-toe with enemy vehicles and survive.

The look of this Amarrian suit has changed little since it was first created, due largely to the commonly held belief that its original form is immaculate; the perfect amalgam of science and religion. Aesthetics are as important as function, because to the Amarr, aesthetics are function. Enshrined within the armor, the wearer becomes a vessel, the embodiment of GodGÇÖs will and an instrument of holy wrath, unmistakable, and feared, by all who look upon him. To the Amarr, the dropsuit itself is the weapon.

Soloing a HAV should be impossible.

No it shouldn't not with the forge gun. soloing should be possible you don't know what your talkin about dude.

No one is saying we want to solo a hav we want to survive an encounter like the description says. More than one shot

The whole idea is that the suit is our best weapon, which means survivability.

dude its more for splash damage than direct hits here is a tip don't stand in front of the turret you will die. i am not trying to be mean but have you looked at the damage the rail gun does its intense!

If a heavy could go head tobhead with a tank what would be the point of a tank? Answer that if your forge does as much damage as a tank main gun + can take the damage dished out by a tank amd go where a tank cant then whats the point of a tank?

Heavy arnt meant to go toe to toe with a tank there meant to wield heavy weapons the HMG and the forge built to dish out damage like a tank but not go toe to toe.

Not tanks, vehicles. Dropships and lav should go down 1vs1 well enough. I lost a lot of hav to forge gunners last build.
pistols are a high damage weapon, breach is over a hundred per hit, close to 200 with good skills and weapon mods.

WTF no they are not. They are designed to take hit. From what I remember from the little lore we got about them a while ago they were tank killers, but by no means should they stand out in the open in front of a tank. Lets see, standing still in front of a tank with a forge gun = standing in front of a scout with a forge, ofc your gonna die. Silly people think they can stand in front of tanks with a heavy.

I have an idea, I posted a thread on buffing Logi's, it was a 10% "specialty bonus" to equipment used by the Logi.
Well, what if each suit had it's own "specialty bonus"?
Heavy suits could have an 10% damage reduction bonus from small arms fire, possibly with the ability to upgrade that with skills, Logi's could have the 10% increase in equipment efficacy, and people could think up a different solution for assaults and scouts(too lazy to think right now).

Just a thought.

Lavs maybe but even a bad driver can run over a heavy before we have enough time to hmg them. Certainly no chance against a drop ship 1 vs 1 even if he only has one gunner we can maybe take three rounds from a basic drop ship.

The suit is supposed to bring fear I think its more like giggles here is a sitting duck in open spaces.lol

As far as the pistol goes we should own this fight by the description of small arms fire.

I'm not complaining, I'm just trying to understand the role its designed for by ccp own description. And looking for input

They should not have nerfed the rail gun range...that really ******** the heavy role....now you can't hit tanks from a distance...and you also can't anti snipe...but seriously snipers shouldn't sit so still :)

1. Just to be clear the description says to be able to survive an encounter with vehicles, that the point I'm making we cant survive 1 shot from tank or 1 direct hit from a drop ship

2. or even an encounter with an lav.

Just trying to figure out if the original purpose of the heavy has changed to just an anti infantry role.

Heavy suits could have a bonus 10% damage reduction from light weapons
Logi's could have a bonus10% increase in equipment efficacy
Assault suits could have a bonus 5% increase to AR damage
Scout suits could have a bonus 10% effective range to all light weapons

I know exactly what I am talking about. A HAV takes teamwork to support. It should take teamwork to kill it.

Sorry charlie, no way you are doing "close" to 200 dmg with a breach pistol, MOST you can get is 40% and I am being generous saying that it does 130dmg base...that is 180dmg....with a fire rate of 200RPM that is NOT close to 200 dmg...assault pistol is soooo much better, but heavies eat pistols....like 11 bullets...because of misses I normally let loose 22....2 clips worth.