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Ender 22
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.16 04:09:00 -
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As ccp constantly talks about the taps and sinks in the eve economy what they've done is create the largest sink in the eve economy that I'm aware of.
TL;DR: The economy in Dust is broken. The tap is dripping into a sink with a full 4 inch drain. New players will stop playing when they go broke
No so tldr:
The game is set up in a well established circle: kills/gameplay = money and SP -> enough money and sp = easier ways to kill/gameplay -> repeat.
However this circle that keeps players playing is broken. There's no point to push towards more gear because you will never become money stable with it. Unless you can ensure you never die...
The honest reason i kept playing the beta was the same reason I play eve, the next shiny thing. I've worked from standard to advanced and have just unlocked the proto suits, I'm 320k sp from proto assault rifles. Ever since Monday I've been itching to log on and get that last 320k sp. But now, why bother?
Here's how to fix it:
If you are a positive influence to the team, logi/kills, then your cost to replace is covered and then some.
This is a minimum requirement for any FPS. No-one will log on to lose because they can't afford the best gear, period. People that say "oh it's so the mega eve alliances will have the best equipment" are crazy, FPS players will not stand to play will **** gear that WILL result in them losing.
Eve Econ's: Have the cost to create the gear 10% less than what the NPCs sell the gear for. This leaves a margin for competition and profit and will prevent the eve players from becoming ridiculously rich. With this said, I've never heard of a poor arms dealer before and would assume there is money to be made.
I was serious, what is the point of playing now? |
Ender 22
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.16 04:48:00 -
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theschizogenious wrote:used full militia died alot made 500k isk your argument is invalid have a nice day 
I fail to see how that invalidates my argument, What are you going to do with that 500k? Die 2.5 times in your shiny proto gear and go back to the useless milita gear with your awesome 1:4...1:6 kdr? |
Ender 22
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.16 05:32:00 -
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theschizogenious wrote:12:5 please good sir and no screw proto gear i dont need to little room to make mistakes without seeing your guy become a couple hundred thousand isk smear on the ground. id much rather prefer living it up in tier 2 or advanced armor with my militia modules and complex damage modifier with a passive 15% damage increase keeping costs low while still being effective thats how you make money my friend
I'll accept that but then why play and work away at SP when you've essentially capped out at 2mil sp?
I agree there is still a workable mechanic here, for every change in rules there will always be a way to succeed. But why have the proto gear when there's no sustainable way to use it.
Also this was an annoying side effect: The price gap creates an inherent refusal to push in teams that start losing.
Honestly I don't have the proto gear and my KDR is/was good. But I just have lost to want to play this game. |
Ender 22
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.17 02:26:00 -
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Where did CCP say they wanted this to be the mechanic? Like I haven't seen anything from CCP saying this is how they want the game to be. All I've seen and heard are ideas from the players.
The game balance is broken. I will not play this game if this is how they want to release the game. My hope today is that they are fixing this and restoring the balance / cloging up the sink |
Ender 22
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.17 03:22:00 -
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Corvus Ravensong wrote:Dude, if you just lost all your shiny little toys in a match, you are supposed to either 1. stroll over to the market and replace them, or 2. play a couple matches in some militia or cheap gear so that you can afford your proto gear again.
What you are probably not supposed to do is 1. cry about losing all your proto gear (shows you weren't really ready to use it) or 2. run all proto gear w/o checking your wallet 1st to make sure you can afford it.
Game balance isn't broken (in this case), your ability to keep a budget through use of basic math skills is broken.
It should be mentioned that I'm not losing all my shiny gear. I'm rolling in advanced and am staying at the same amount of isk (5.2 mil). I'm not fighting this for the good players I'm fighting this for the new players the players who we hope will join the game, like it and play it forever.
I'm not investing my time to unlock stuff that I can't use until i hopefully get a ton of money from an eve player.
I'll wait until CCP mentions something specific before i make any more rash decisions
EDIT: What I'm worried about is the end game. The thing that makes the grind worth while. The "fun" reward of working through all the levels
I'm sorry if you can't look at a serious discussion about the flow of money in this game.
Further have you played on a team that pushed hard for the first engagement the would never push again because people don't want to lose their gear? Great for epic mega fights... Bad for the weekend warrior |
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