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Mavado V Noriega
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Posted - 2012.08.16 02:31:00 -
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is still garbage. from my understanding it is done server side? that needs to change and make it client side or something.....sure we might occasionaly get some ppl dying around corners but tbh with how the maps are designed there arent much gunfights taking place around a bunch of corners and such.
it puzzles me how after so many builds the foundation is still so poor...... u dont build a mansion without setting down proper foundation first and to me it seems CCP is doing things in the opposite order we gettin the mansion 1st and then tryin to patch up the foundation after....that wont work.
no matter how fancy ur mansion looks with all the wonderful features, maps, "skills", "meta game" etc if the CORE mechanics are not fun the game will fall flat on its face
its a FPS first and foremost and ppl will dload the game to shoot ppl in the face and if that part is broken there goes ur playerbase.
Ive seen alot of fanboys on different grps either fb or on here keep saying "the game is amazing" "great job ccp" "i rather play this game with its fps mechanics than something else" im here to tell u CCP as someone who play alot of FPS games on console ur game is NOT even close to being up to par with competitors and now sony is making the mistake of letting PS+ ppl demo the game....yes demo they are not gonna actually beta test it they gonna treat it like a demo and if what im currently playing is what they are gonna be playing on the 21st.......then there goes a chunk of ur potential playerbase again.
we get a bunch of new **** added to this build but hit detection is arguably worse than before? get the priorities straight CCP...fix the FPS side of the game FIRST worry about cosmetics and other bs after. As a huge fan of the potential of this game and wanting this to succeed more than most ppl here i can tell u the shooting in this game is terrible compared to other games........inb4fanboyssaylolcod sorry fanboys i dont play cod......start listening to the actual FPS crowd and not the EVE only crowd who think they know what makes a good console shooter (no offense to EVE only players but feedback on the FPS side should be done by ppl who actually spend alot of time on FPS same reason any EVE-DUST link feedback on that should be primarily be taken from the EVE only crowd imho)
all in all u have a gem on ur hands but u need to seriously put all focus on the fps side if u honestly intend to release in 2012 |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.08.16 03:46:00 -
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makes me wonder wtf were they doin all this time from 2009 till now u would think that from 2009 the foundation and core mechanics would be the 1st **** they worked on
and as u said with 2 builds left till release im very worried atm for the 1st time in a while me and my clan are startin to look towards a backup game should dust fail epicly at launch which atm they on course to do tbqh
console community is not forgiving and CCP cant expect to release a FPS with terrible FPS mechanics and expect to retain a playerbase till whenever they fix it...it has to be good and fun to play at launch...not months after...or years after....they get ONE shot at this |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.08.16 09:24:00 -
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theschizogenious wrote:it might just be me but ive had no troubles with the hit detection so maybe... work on your aiming?
im not trying to troll its just that not once have i been in a game since pre-E3 where some one has complained of their hit detection.
LOL...and here i thought that one other dude was the only one with the delusion that hit detection isnt a problem. ppl dont complain about it enough but ppl know its an issue broski
this is why this game will flop....ppl that live in a bubble that think nothing is wrong with the FPS mechanics and that hit detection is fine lol
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Mavado V Noriega
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Posted - 2012.08.16 09:27:00 -
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theschizogenious wrote:iGlassJaw wrote:theschizogenious wrote:it might just be me but ive had no troubles with the hit detection so maybe... work on your aiming?
im not trying to troll its just that not once have i been in a game since pre-E3 where some one has complained of their hit detection. >.> oh yea the server side lag is NO problem at all. You obviously don't know how this system works. I cba to explain it to you, but people like you shouldn't give feedback. If you think the hit detection is fine...then smh... this game is doomed to fail if CCP listens to people like you. before you start acting like a know it all pos douchebag actually bother to read the frickin post. did i say ithat there was no problem with lag? nope, i said i have not had any problem with the hit detection in GAMES I PLAY. but theres a solution for why your having trouble with hit detection its called the R1 button you press it to shoot the gun so if there are no more questions mister evetard tryhard ill kindly leave so that you can start realizing what an arse youve made yourself look like on the beta while i was just voicing an opinion. have a nice day
so u assume GlassJaw is an EVEtard tryhard? u do realise it is u who made urself look like an ass assuming that right? |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.08.16 20:00:00 -
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Diagon Vasari wrote:oh look another troll post hm. not suprising.
troll post? |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.08.17 01:45:00 -
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Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote:Bumping for dev response...
on a side note that i should probably make an individual thread for, the ressing with nano injector is annoying as you have to go where the body died, not where the body is, in order to res the person. So if thier body flew a bit, gotta play a guessing game to where it was.
na son! devs never respond to logical threads tbh need to add in asking for something gimmicky like better living spaces and sliding! those get noticed but core stuff? pffft all about cosmetics yo!
on a real tho its really discouraging to post feedback and ideas and gamebreaking issues and good feedback then to see dev input of comical stuff......and not even mentioning some of the basic core stuff being workd on in the patch notes
lack of communication CCP...... |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.08.17 05:22:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote:Bumping for dev response...
on a side note that i should probably make an individual thread for, the ressing with nano injector is annoying as you have to go where the body died, not where the body is, in order to res the person. So if thier body flew a bit, gotta play a guessing game to where it was. na son! devs never respond to logical threads tbh need to add in asking for something gimmicky like better living spaces and sliding! those get noticed but core stuff? pffft all about cosmetics yo! on a real tho its really discouraging to post feedback and ideas and gamebreaking issues and good feedback then to see dev input of comical stuff......and not even mentioning some of the basic core stuff being workd on in the patch notes lack of communication CCP...... gotta go to the IRC chat for that (This has honestly been the strangest beta i've ever been a part of) (been beta testing PS3 exclusives for years at that)
same here ive been in pretty much every ps3 exclusive beta since i got my ps3 and this one is being handled very weird indeed
inb4fanboyssayitsarealbeta yeaaaaa.....alot of the others i played in were real betas too still wasnt handled this poorly
1. treating a beta like a celebrity event with "beta events" inviting ppl from gaming websites to play when ur CORE **** not even functioning properly = bad advertisement = bad reviews cuz ppl WILL judge it based on what they play = word of mouth being negative
2. Priorities all messed up....still cant get core stuff right yet we get a bunch of new cosmetic **** and more vehicles and toys to attempt to play with. NEWSFLASH doesnt matter how feature packed ur game is if the shooting is terrible ppl will not give it more than 2 matches at best when they dload it
3. When inviting ppl to a beta to work on the core mechanics invite ONLY the ppl who can give good feedback on that specific area TILL ITS COMPLETE THEN INVITE OTHERS. Having a bunch of EVE only ppl who rarely pick up a console controller or rarely spend time on a fps giving feedback on fps mechanics is laughable....thats like console fps player goin to beta test EVE and giving feedback on it like he knows wtf hes talkin about
Again no offense to the EVE only ppl but its the truth. DUST is being marketed as a console game , everytime i hear someone say "well in EVE it works like this....." i get sick because some ppl cant grasp that not everything that works in EVE can be translated into a FPS its 2 different games and should be treated as such |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.08.17 09:33:00 -
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lol as much as i hate cod proto i was really impressed with what BO2 is doing for competitive play with the leagues and ingame live streaming
its like cod took my vision how i want dust to handle gladiator arenas and making it a reality....very jelly tbqh
and yea id say pretty much all PS exclusives have failed to live up to the hype and expectations since about 2010 imo |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.08.23 06:23:00 -
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if i aim at u i should hit u the way it is right now to hit ppl u deliberately have to MISS ur shots aka lead to whichever side their strafing, why should u have to lead for strafing? thats ********. i dont got a problem with leading shots WHEN PPL ARE IN FULL SPRINT AND A FAR DISTANCE OFF....but seeing lolscouts survive encounters they clearly shouldnt when all they doin is just moving their stick back and forth and having lolhitdetection enable legend strafe is laughable.
pretty sure all the console PS+ fans are having a WONDERFUL time right now "demo'in" this game.... every other beta ive played the core stuff was worked on first....idk what sort of backwards steps CCP taking to build their game but they are losing potential players by having their "closed" beta so open and in such a poor state
if i was a newbie that didnt know anything about DUST, what it plans to do or anything like that and just got in the beta i would NOT play this game on launch the way it is.
So bottom line simple solution for CCP....if i aim at u and ur strafing i hit no bs leading with ur crap hit detection if ur in full sprint and mid range and i aim and shoot i should hit u. if u are long range and sprinting and i shoot i should have to lead. |
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