Yeah CCP, debacle can't do laundry and go 30-0 anymore. HELP CCP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh no now you have to actually try to get a good score how dare you CCP.

oh no now you have to actually try to get a good score how dare you CCP.

It takes plenty more skill to use a HAV than it does while playing infantry.

You just need to work as a group to keep that tank, where was your support? eww that felt good.....in a dirty way, what's the matter you can no longer be a one vehicle red liner?

I don't understand how you can not be owning in it due to the football field size of the splash damage.

They've nerfed the tanks so bad, I can still go around killing as if I am in a marauder, even when I am in a Soma.



really really u being serious

You just need to work as a group to keep that tank, where was your support? eww that felt good.....in a dirty way, what's the matter you can no longer be a one vehicle red liner?

I don't understand how you can not be owning in it due to the football field size of the splash damage.

It must be really hard to roll around in something with 5000 health

I am being plenty serious.



It's not the fact that I die from infantry, it's the fact that the marauder is as weak as a Soma.

so driving a tank that has over 5,000 health a usally a OHK shot takes more skill then running around trying to kill other infantry and tanks while using a gun that takes about two magazine to kill someone and unable to kill a tank.

u do not know the meaning of skill

I'm sorry anyone can flick the analog stick a few times and hold down R1. In tanks we have to know where and where not to be, when to leave, how to manage modules, when to turn modules on, how to coordinate with your gunners, figure a good fit out that is financially good, how to multitask while moving, and you want to say that infantry takes more skill. You're funny.

reserving my spot in a potential classic.

I'm sorry anyone can flick the analog stick a few times and hold down R1. In tanks we have to know where and where not to be, when to leave, how to manage modules, when to turn modules on, how to coordinate with your gunners, figure a good fit out that is financially good, how to multitask while moving, and you want to say that infantry takes more skill. You're funny.

My tank has over 5,000 armor and I still run around the map and go 30/0 Dude complaining doesn't have any skill TBH and my tank fits suck

My tank has over 5,000 armor and I still run around the map and go 30/0 Dude complaining doesn't have any skill TBH and my tank fits suck

You must adapt to situations faster

It's so true. Nothing against u proto just talking about your fit. Lol. Can you afford the new prices?

I'm sorry anyone can flick the analog stick a few times and hold down R1. In tanks we have to know where and where not to be, when to leave, how to manage modules, when to turn modules on, how to coordinate with your gunners, figure a good fit out that is financially good, how to multitask while moving, and you want to say that infantry takes more skill. You're funny.

I bought a whole bunch before the price hike

You have to do most of that with infantry as well. (bold below)
Particularly if you want to be a real force in a match. (not just some scrub hiding in a corner somewhere)

"know where and where not to be, when to leave, how to manage modules, when to turn modules on, how to coordinate with your gunners, figure a good fit out that is financially good, how to multitask while moving"

Sorry, but you really sound like a whiny beyotch, with your "anyone can flick the analog stick" argument.

tanks are fine.

Adapt or Die
Welcome to New Eden
Go back to COD, er, I mean EVE!

Prices are not difficult to overcome with the increase of ISK gain honestly, I guess you need to make your tank last an extra round now, but that's not all that difficult.

Nope. Infantry can maneuver faster than tanks and can go to places where tanks cannot.

With 3 people in a tank I cannot get away when I'm spotted by a tank

I can't out run one

And tanks go places they shouldn't go ATM

Leaving is easy for infantry as they have more mobility. Infantry does not need to worry about price, my fits for tanks cost 1.5 million isk per.

Notice how my tank is 20x bigger than your infantry, which paints a much bigger target for the already overused forge guns. I know this because I use one. Before you start calling me a "whiny beyotch", take note that infantry are a lot easier to escape with.

Infantry is more mobile, yes... but tanks are much faster, so escape is really not easier, especially when a tank has 5-6k HP, and infantry has around 5-6 hundred HP.
Price-wise, not sure if you checked, but infantry suits are up too. A proto loadout can EASILY run 300k isk.
Besides, it's not that tough to obtain 500-600k isk now.

I'm pretty peeved about the tank price hike too, but not gonna let that stop me from playing. what does get to me is that there's no reason to use the syura, instead of the soma, they're the same tank now.

We haven't gotten the increase in ISK gain. Maybe later though, which will take that out of my argument.

Really? I seem to be making a ton more than usual.

I'll get this off my chest quickly:
Not even 24 hours from the update, tankers are "whining" that they aren't strong enough. You hypocritical kittens.
Anyway...

Lurch is bang on, and my opinion of him just went up. He's right about the rebalancing...
1.) Tanks are now balanced within their own niche far better than before. A prototype infantry can be caught off guard by any militia suit with a shotgun. Now, a marauder can be killed in the same way by a militia railgun soma. Previously the Sica/soma got 1hit killed. 2with a good fit.
2.) Tanks are now all but immune to small arms fire. Playing "tank bronco" doesn't work anymore. Which is good because 400SMG bullets shouldn't wreck a tank.
3.) Large missile launchers. 900ish spash damage sir? Large railgun. Awesome AV weapon sir? Now tanks are developing roles. The Nerf to small missile launchers was needed. It's still damn good.

The biggest problem for tankers now is avoiding being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Complacency is your enemy. Oh, and draw distance. But that's fair to both parties.
Hit detection is also key for tankers to remove hostiles before they can become a threat. That was why I disliked the 1.5 damage mod with small missiles. Tanks are easy to hit with even the hit detection and lag from the replication build. Scouts however need good hit detection to kill. Even with splash.
We should really test a bit more before making wild claims.

1.) I don't feel like marauders are worth it. A 1 million increase in price from the standard HAV for what? A little extra CPU and PG and a extra high slot? Nah. Totally not worth it. EDIT: If I go that high in price, I'll buy me a Kubera.

2.) I'm glad about that.

3.) I don't use missiles or railguns, so doesn't matter to me.

3) Whoa wut?! You were just in my thread talking about how you shot me with a railgun!
shenanigans.

On a side note, I have always been an advocate of tank nerfing, but I think HAV speed and turret turn speed should be nerfed, not damage.