We have yet to see with Dust. If they don't make this fun it's kinda pointless. Sunday night I ran a shotgun. Made the game fun for a few games.
Problem is, when you have to pay ISK for everything, you can't afford fun loadouts. Not to mention wasting a million SP on a knife you use once a week...(for example, shotgun or mass driver are 2 others) I think this is a real fun killer, but part of the basis for the game. Troublesome.

CCP is not new to QQ and complaining. High sec miners whine and cry all day and say the same things, make the same ultimatums, and CCP stonewalls them to the delight of everyone else. They make their own game. IF you want to build your own game around your style of play every 3 months there's EA for that.

Well the high sec miners did get their way this time. :|

What he could have said was:

'The culture clash on the forums has been fascinating, but what is really exciting is that we're starting to see signs of an evolution in how people are thinking about what they want out of an 'fps'-style game. We realize that all parts of DUST won't be everybody's cup of tea, but we can see from our closed beta forums that some of the traditional fps community are starting to understand what we're really offering them, and are signing on for what promises to be a very entertaining ride.'

haha, you'll have to figure out other ways to pick on carebears.

i dabble in can flipping noob mission runners in Rens but mostly I rat/explore null sec, i suicide ganked a cov op cheetah that was parked uncloaked 0m from a high sec sun but i was ignorant to GCC and couldnt loot it...

He fails to mention the raging debates on the forum and the furious arguments over whether the game is fun or not,

But hey...

What else is PR for?

What he could have said was:

'The culture clash on the forums has been fascinating, but what is really exciting is that we're starting to see signs of an evolution in how people are thinking about what they want out of an 'fps'-style game. We realize that all parts of DUST won't be everybody's cup of tea, but we can see from our closed beta forums that some of the traditional fps community are starting to understand what we're really offering them, and are signing on for what promises to be a very entertaining ride.'

He fails to mention the raging debates on the forum and the furious arguments over whether the game is fun or not,

But hey...

What else is PR for?

CCP is good at sifting through useless QQ and finding actual input on the beta build.

You describe the EvE community so well icy. If only they were half decent at fps's instea of thinking they are...

The thing thats been bugging me how ccp have gone about there beta stage is that you are locked into testing one build how can this give reliable feedback this is due to the way the sp system is set up for beta.

Now if they would allow testers ( and thats what we are supposed to be) to be able to reset there builds and use the accumilated sp then we would be able to test more builds and give better information .

Seems strange the way we are locked in like this in a testing phase

Fenrir, that's how the game works. They need to test it like this so that people can't just change their skills after a battle. You won't be able to in the release. I don't think everyone needs to test everything, just what matters to you, what kills you, and what you are just plain interested in.
It allows CCP to identify tends.

Well he's hardly going to say:

"People like it; Well except for a small minority of whiny children who consider themselves "professional" fps players, but in reality have just left school and have no idea what to do with their lives, whose over indulgent parents let them sit in the basement all day eating cheesy poofs, drinking Gatorade and screaming at strangers from all four corners of the globe. Then when their throat is tired from screaming at a game they allegedly hate they come on a internet forum to post comparative analogies to see how much attention they can drum up to replace the friends they long since alienated with their self entitled attitudes."

Fenrir, that's how the game works. They need to test it like this so that people can't just change their skills after a battle. You won't be able to in the release. I don't think everyone needs to test everything, just what matters to you, what kills you, and what you are just plain interested in.
It allows CCP to identify tends.