Not saying anything about whether or not HAVs need to be nerfed.

Just pay attention to what he says. "you become quite vulnerable in a choke point"

Based on a few of the maps that we've seen thus far (between this build and last build)
There aren't too many choke points for AV guys to use to kill a leveled up HAV.
Actually there are hardly any... and as any good and experienced HAV guy will tell you, you have to make a mistake, or literally have several AV guys chasing after you to kill you.
Not that a HAV guy can't be killed, but it takes 4-5 AV guys to kill one good HAV. It's too easy for them to run off and repair shields/armor after tanking a couple blasts.

thats because if they did watch the vid they would hav to admit that tanks are working as intended, and no i dont use tanks. besides even if they impliment cap, cap warfare, neuts, webifiers, tracking disruptors basically anything that will bring a tank to its knees that isnt a AR they wont use it anyway and still say its op

That was a nice vid!!! Loved how they focused on teamwork! If you don't have that, you're pretty much screwed. Doesn't sound like they will be changing much, if any, of the tanks designs.

As for the plateaus being a tank map. I want to disagree. Correct me if i'm wrong. I see it like this you only have like a few places to actually rep your shield/armor without being shot from overhead. The map for the most part is open from above. That gives dropship/forge guns from buildings/other tanks more of an advantage to shoot at you. You can't shoot straight up so that means dropship gunners can rain down on you and if they are good enough you will not get the shot on them. Personel on top of building good luck hitting them unless you get lucky and see your cursor turn red if you actually can get it on him. Dropships on top of buildings easier target because they are big. As for tank vs tank its easy to get to a position to fall behind the tank you are engaging and get the easy kill. As mentioned before he has to turn around when he is being shot from behind. In most cases its the tank that gets the first shot off thats going to get the kill. Whether or not you have smart enough turret men to realize a tank is shooting at you or if you even have turret men at all. Like mentioned before it's a tank it is supposed to be dangerous. Think of real warfare tanks are built to withstand claymores, IED's, grenades and whatnot. They are built to put out massive ammounts of damage. Tank is OP because a tank is OP. Props to CCP. Tanks are also easily taken down with proper team work. As in an earlier match me and a new recruit and another guy put together a plan on the fly to take down an enemy tank. Two of us pulled out our prototype forge guns and one called in a drop ship. The drop ship distracted the tank(that had been destroying our team, due to lack of AV fits) while me and my partner got into position with our protoforge guns. Four or five shots later tank goes boom. Tanks are not invinsible you just have to work together to destroy them. So I say lay off the complaints and turn on your mics and work as a freaking squad and do work.

Thanks for making an ass of you and me by assuming I didn't watch the video. Just because they are working as intended by CCP's standards don't make it right!

Vehicles that can can rep each other is a broken mechanic by the way...

Thanks mate - you continue to show you're not like the rest of the whining fools in these forums and actually back up your arguments with legitimate, valid proof of your side. On release - I'm half tempted to throw you some ISKies just for being awesome. Again - thank you mate =)

New build in a week, we shall see then, as for now enjoy your last few hour(maybe days) with your millions of sp and proto gear; maybe practice in some militia so its not such a shock on the 21st.

Tbh I'd rather see the damage mod removed from all tanks, let modules, pg and CPU be more important than just picking the "killer" tank.
These need balancing before release. I don't think cost/sp is a good enough reason for them to dominate how they can currently.

That's a lie and you know it the Javelin is the strongest AV weapon in the game and requires you to lock on and you still need 2 shots 3 if they have reactive armor. Taking a tank down in 5 seconds wont even happen if you hit a tank in the back because you still need 2 shots. Maybe some AV mines will do it but a smart driver keeps his eye on the road!

So they envisioned tanks to be the end all be all death machines that they are? Good luck retaining a player base like that I can see why they plan on porting it to PC because they know the console player base wont stick around long.

But you don't have to be good at driving a tank here to do well! Not with the mass amount of shield and armor they have. I don't mind the regen on shields but the self rep on tanks is what makes them OP to me. Armor on vehicles should only be reped by a outside source. That video even said vehicles will be able to rep other vehicles! Thats just to much IMO whats the point of a repair guy when the tank driver can go nope I got it!

I'm not your dude...

My point exactly the enemy can't do a OS if you control it and there ships are getting blown to hell. No different than controlling an AAA IMO!

LOL At lurch getting mad because I don't want him to call me Dude. It has or had nothing to do with me being a **** to you if you can't except the fact that I don't want to be called dude then oh well I guess. I don't even let my brothers call me "dude".

LOL At lurch getting mad because I don't want him to call me Dude. It has or had nothing to do with me being a **** to you if you can't except the fact that I don't want to be called dude then oh well I guess. I don't even let my brothers call me "dude".

But you don't know the damage out put of these things to say that. Sure it may be a sponge to other ship fire but that beam swallowed that ship whole in the E311 video so I'm guessing it's a one and done.

Maybe planets don't come with anti-orbit guns and you need to buy them and other planetary features with the gun in the video being a top tire high-power but low-RoF model.