take your game back to pc, console players don't want it. After seeing the new patch notes, I now know for sure, that you don't give a $hit about actual gameplay. the people who know how FPS' should work have screamed at you relentlessly to NERF vehicles and the game would be fine. but what do you do? You buff HMG's (OMG not again they're already good enough) bring new tanks, and nerf one of the $hittiest AR's in the game. (wanna know why everyone uses it and thinks it's so OP? because you suck at making this game have actual hit detection so when we contact we want our bullets to count you freaking idiots, the breach assault rifle DPS wise and DPC (damage per clip) is one of the worst. and you just made it even worse) bring us new stealth tanks, and just overall make it worse for the people who know what the fucl{ a first person shooter is.

I hate to say this CCP.

You promised me a hardcore game for people with skill to dominate.
I lost faith in you.

At the end of the day the "FPS Player" will never be happy as it aint like COD/BF when are you all going to realise that this is DUST FPSMMO it is never going to be like COD or BF or HALO for that if that is the kind of game you want to play then go play them. I think ccp are doing a great job and for the fact that this is still beta personly cant wait for it to go live. Stop whinning and start adapting

take your game back to pc, console players don't want it. After seeing the new patch notes, I now know for sure, that you don't give a $hit about actual gameplay. the people who know how FPS' should work have screamed at you relentlessly to NERF vehicles and the game would be fine. but what do you do? You buff HMG's (OMG not again they're already good enough) bring new tanks, and nerf one of the $hittiest AR's in the game. (wanna know why everyone uses it and thinks it's so OP? because you suck at making this game have actual hit detection so when we contact we want our bullets to count you freaking idiots, the breach assault rifle DPS wise and DPC (damage per clip) is one of the worst. and you just made it even worse) bring us new stealth tanks, and just overall make it worse for the people who know what the fucl{ a first person shooter is.

I hate to say this CCP.

You promised me a hardcore game for people with skill to dominate.
I lost faith in you.

The ppl that are whining the most are going to continue until they get someone from CCP to say "You're right. We'll fix it." But they'll never happen because they are nothing but whiny, spoiled kids.

At the end of the day the "FPS Player" will never be happy as it aint like COD/BF when are you all going to realise that this is DUST FPSMMO it is never going to be like COD or BF or HALO for that if that is the kind of game you want to play then go play them. I think ccp are doing a great job and for the fact that this is still beta personly cant wait for it to go live. Stop whinning and start adapting

No one is asking for the game to be like COD or BF3 but people are asking to make the game better! Instead of fixing things they think they are adding things to make this a hardcore shooter when in fact it's really not. Where were your adapt or die idiots when people werer crying because they couldn't use DS3 and needed there KB+M. Where were you when everyone was using swarm launchers like halo rocket jumps. Please get off your high horse!

No one is asking for the game to be like COD or BF3 but people are asking to make the game better! Instead of fixing things they think they are adding things to make this a hardcore shooter when in fact it's really not. Where were your adapt or die idiots when people werer crying because they couldn't use DS3 and needed there KB+M. Where were you when everyone was using swarm launchers like halo rocket jumps. Please get off your high horse!

agree with almighty on some aspects and disagree on others
u know what really bothers me.....is the ppl that say "go back to cod town" the moment someone disagrees with how the FPS part of the game should be

do ppl even know HOW cod plays? if ppl did alot of these "go back to cod" comments wont even be made cuz some of the complaints ppl making are not even near how cod plays, hate when ppl just jump on a bandwagon cuz "its the kool kid thing to do" pretty sure most ppl dont even have a legit reason to hate on cod btw other than "its cod"

PS: inb4gobacktocod.......i hate cod but i DO have a legit reason on why i hate the mechanics in the game and not just on a "hate cod bandwagon"

Anyway vehicle wise we'll have to see how the AV stuff and groupin works im more concerned how the core fps mechanics still need alot of work

agree with almighty on some aspects and disagree on others
u know what really bothers me.....is the ppl that say "go back to cod town" the moment someone disagrees with how the FPS part of the game should be

do ppl even know HOW cod plays? if ppl did alot of these "go back to cod" comments wont even be made cuz some of the complaints ppl making are not even near how cod plays, hate when ppl just jump on a bandwagon cuz "its the kool kid thing to do" pretty sure most ppl dont even have a legit reason to hate on cod btw other than "its cod"

PS: inb4gobacktocod.......i hate cod but i DO have a legit reason on why i hate the mechanics in the game and not just on a "hate cod bandwagon"

Anyway vehicle wise we'll have to see how the AV stuff and groupin works im more concerned how the core fps mechanics still need alot of work

COD sucks because it's P2P. If it wasn't P2P it would be a great game.

Tanks are OP and take zero real skill to use been roaming around with them dropping anywhere from 80-100 kills.

Blatant ignorance - apparently didn't read that hit detection was being improved.

This game is operating solely on core gameplay elements with Eve Online mechanics first - and FPS mechanics second.

It's cool though, we from New Eden know that you've just made this thread to warrant attention like so many others before you in Eve Online. It's the same argument, you didn't get your way so you're done with the game.

See you in a few months, mate. No-one ever truly leaves New Eden.

The reason we're all saying "go back to CoD town" is because there's no meaning in your gameplay. Might have better mechanics - maybe - but at the end of the match what did you accomplish? A new unlock? A new prestige level? Congratulations, you're one of a few million.

I'm willing to over-look petty non-sense in a BETA of an EXPERIMENTAL game that HAS NEVER BEEN ATTEMPTED BEFORE in which all of my choices and decisions have PERMANENT CONSEQUENCES in a PERSISTENT world.

I'm sorry but most people don't really give two ***** about EVE and it's persistent world other than the EVE players. Most of us are just looking for a decent shooter that supports games larger than 12v12 so we can get all our buddies into matches together without having to break up groups.

I'm sorry but most people don't really give two ***** about EVE and it's persistent world other than the EVE players. Most of us are just looking for a decent shooter that supports games larger than 12v12 so we can get all our buddies into matches together without having to break up groups.

Soooo go play MAG. Eve Online is a Niche game, there's nothing else like it - and Dust 514 is going to be the same way. It's a -persistent- realm where actions and consequences matter. If you can't overlook petty stupid gameplay mechanics that don't equally match/directly rip-off your favorite mind-numbing shooter than you're playing the wrong game.

Most people don't give two ***** about Eve? Fine - leave. You're in -OUR- game and CCP has made it -very- clear that the opinions and feedback of Eve players over-shadows yours. I'm sure the CSM would agree in this aspect.

While we're on the topic - here's a quote from CCP Soundwave.

GǣWhy would I want to balance a fight? That's never really been the goal in EVEGǪ That's a fact of life in EVE and we're not likely to change that direction anytime soon.Gǥ

Go home. Do something else with your life other than complain.

You do realize that CCP has stated several times, that while they are catering to the EVE community, they DO want to make this a AAA FPS that ppl from other FPS games will want to play?!?

They want to it be familiar to EVE players, and not "break" EVE with it's interactions... but they do want FPS gamers to play this too.

I'm sure they'd listen to you if you ever got around to explaining -why- you feel that everything and it's mother is over-powered other than the fact that you died from it.

I have a thousand and a half times, no-one listens.

I have a thousand and a half times, no-one listens.

I understand that the good fps players are upset with the gun play mechanics. I have never played cod. I can't really say how this games mechanics are compared to other games. I appreciate constructive criticism, not what the OP did. I want good fps players to give their input. But the rage posts like what the OP don't get things fixed. But we all have remember we are TESTING. I want to see what changes have been made. I'm not an AR user, but I do get the other end quite often. I'm curious to what extent they did change it. I use the smg. Not sure why that was changed, but we will see how much it was.

As for tanks, CCP wants us to see how well they work. From what I understand, sp and isk will be brought down to a normal gain and vehicle prices are going up. So from that, we probably won't have the vehicle spam we see now.

I know there are good things listed in the patch notes, and some that not everyone will be happy with, I.e. tanks. But I'm sure there are things that were changed that weren't put in notes. There will be ups and downs during beta. Let's all enjoy our time here and keep giving CCP good feedback.

Looks like this isn't the game for you.

I wish you luck in finding what you are seeking, you can stop posting now.

How are they letting you test an fps with no fps experience? You definitely know how the game's mechanics should be. Get outa here nub.

this to all evetards

This is exactly what kills good games. Terrible community!! Just because I have never played CoD, doesn't mean I have no FPS experience. I'm here just the same as you are. I have just as much right as to comment on what and what does not seem to work. Just because you think you are a god at fps doesn't mean you can just say everyone that has no fps experience shouldn't be allowed to play. I have no more to say to the people like you!

Everyone should actually play cod for a few hundred hours. Gotta understand fps before you can test and provide efficient feedback on em. You guys can play but don't say anything you know nothing about. Sorry we made you QQ.

Blatant ignorance - apparently didn't read that hit detection was being improved.

This game is operating solely on core gameplay elements with Eve Online mechanics first - and FPS mechanics second.

It's cool though, we from New Eden know that you've just made this thread to warrant attention like so many others before you in Eve Online. It's the same argument, you didn't get your way so you're done with the game.

See you in a few months, mate. No-one ever truly leaves New Eden.

i take that this vocal minority of self proclaimed "FPSers with skill" have never played a battlefield game before where vehicles also kill these "FPSers with skill"..

I am sorry, but that shows you don't know what an FPS is.

Make the game FUN, then add New Eden. Nobody is going to play it if it has fail FPS mechanics, but has buckets of Eve Online.

Dust IS NOT EVE. It isn't anything but DUST. Honestly, I would rather have a game that encouraged you to attack and attack, low per death ISK cost, but made up for the fact that you die 40 times a game and lose the same amount.

Currently, DUST feels like a game where you should die 30 times but you don't. I can take sniper rounds ro the face and survive. I can run headlong into an SMG with a scout suit and dodge bullets.

I liked MAGs system better. You were lethal but fragile. You could improve your fragility marginally through skills and armor, but if a Level 1 player got the drop on a Level 70, the Level 1 would win.

The gun battles could last more than several seconds too, but not ridiculous like now. If wasn't insta kill, but it was also not a dance around me and dodge bullets shooter either.

MAG to me was a happy medium that id Zipper had had the vision could have been great.
As it is, it wasn't.

I always thought the gameplay would transfer perfectly into the MMOFPS genre. Making you buy your ammo and gear, even if it was a small cost per death, would have made battles worth something. You would have worried about the cost of 22 deaths because a 1,000$ death would mean 22k $ end of match.


This may all be personal preference, but I thought DUST would be more like that, not focused on "surviving" but rather "length of survival". Sounds similar but has very different implications.

I dunno. Just all IMO.

im not arguing with you OP and i will not debate with u at all..... even if u change ur mind and all of a sudden become the smartest ****** in the world or become a ccp fanboy i do not care, i want you TO STOP PLAYING THIS GAME, YOUR EXISTANCE ON IT DOES NOTHING BUT **** PPL OFF, LEAVE im not saying "if you dont like it get out" im saying "GET OUT."

im not arguing with you OP and i will not debate with u at all..... even if u change ur mind and all of a sudden become the smartest ****** in the world or become a ccp fanboy i do not care, i want you TO STOP PLAYING THIS GAME, YOUR EXISTANCE ON IT DOES NOTHING BUT **** PPL OFF, LEAVE im not saying "if you dont like it get out" im saying "GET OUT."

that and he doesnt care about EVE just so that he and his clan can have a new team death match to spray and pray in if that's the case why not just wait for the next big release like BF4 or medal of honor

but then battlfield 4 will have vehicles i guess he has to wait til they port counter strike to console

CS GO is coming to to PS3 on August 21...

Im amused on how this beta its just hemmoraging players after each build.

But please, do continue pushing fps people away, next thing you know only a niche part of eve players will be playing their glorified "world of tanks" while the rest moves on, and CCP wonders what they did wrong.

What this people fail to understand that if they repeat the "go back to play other fps" or "dont play it then" enough time, with enough reasons people actually will go and say... "ok, cya" and go in their merry way. Next thing you know the dust servers just being a barren wasteland.

Nothing like watching a ship go down slowly but steadly in flames. /popcorn

Very true. CCP keeps dishing out beta invites, (which they want to do to keep testing game) and ppl play for a week or two, and then numbers dwindle.

Does this mean you be leaving us for another game?

Im amused on how this beta its just hemmoraging players after each build.

But please, do continue pushing fps people away, next thing you know only a niche part of eve players will be playing their glorified "world of tanks" while the rest moves on, and CCP wonders what they did wrong.

What this people fail to understand that if they repeat the "go back to play other fps" or "dont play it then" enough time, with enough reasons people actually will go and say... "ok, cya" and go in their merry way. Next thing you know the dust servers just being a barren wasteland.

Nothing like watching a ship go down slowly but steadly in flames. /popcorn

that and he doesnt care about EVE just so that he and his clan can have a new team death match to spray and pray in if that's the case why not just wait for the next big release like BF4 or medal of honor

but then battlfield 4 will have vehicles i guess he has to wait til they port counter strike to console

take your game back to pc, console players don't want it. After seeing the new patch notes, I now know for sure, that you don't give a $hit about actual gameplay. the people who know how FPS' should work have screamed at you relentlessly to NERF vehicles and the game would be fine. but what do you do? You buff HMG's (OMG not again they're already good enough) bring new tanks, and nerf one of the $hittiest AR's in the game. (wanna know why everyone uses it and thinks it's so OP? because you suck at making this game have actual hit detection so when we contact we want our bullets to count you freaking idiots, the breach assault rifle DPS wise and DPC (damage per clip) is one of the worst. and you just made it even worse) bring us new stealth tanks, and just overall make it worse for the people who know what the fucl{ a first person shooter is.

I hate to say this CCP.

You promised me a hardcore game for people with skill to dominate.
I lost faith in you.



EDIT: because I'm not going to reply to each individual "go back to cod" post

I hate call of duty. It is one of the worst games on the market. not only does it require no skill but the little skill it does require is ruined by it's fail hit detection HOWEVER! I would rather play CoD than this because in cod you have to kill me 9 times to get something overpowered. in this you can just spawn with it and lolrap3 everyone going 40-0 never leaving your bought tank. this will get even worse when "the isk flows." anyone who thinks this game takes skill at the moment can get the fucl{ out.

I do not want a game based on tactics. I want a game based on skill.

if this game had vehicles stripped. wow. it'd be amazing. I mean really WOW this game would be good! but no. fucl{ing CCP doesn't know how to balance $hit in an FPS they are too used to spaceships.


ANY GM WANNA FUCl{ING EXPLAIN WHAT A FAIL OF A FPS DESIGNER YOU ARE AND WHY YOU WON'T FUCl{ING LISTEN?

I find it extremely funny and entertaining how worked up people can get while testing a game. Threads like these on the forums are like sitting back and reading a good bit of poorly written comedy, the humor is in how bad it is. Or maybe a soap opera "The OP and the Useless".

I'm going to throw on some popcorn, get a scotch, sit back and enjoy the show.

ANY GM WANNA FUCl{ING EXPLAIN WHAT A FAIL OF A FPS DESIGNER YOU ARE AND WHY YOU WON'T FUCl{ING LISTEN?

ANY GM WANNA FUCl{ING EXPLAIN WHAT A FAIL OF A FPS DESIGNER YOU ARE AND WHY YOU WON'T FUCl{ING LISTEN?

So... How many MMOFPSs have you created, slaved over, and plan to release for free?

I am the creator of WoW

I am the creator of WoW

The OP invalidated his post when he stated he didnt want a game based on tactics. He should probably just not play this game then.

i take that this vocal minority of self proclaimed "FPSers with skill" have never played a battlefield game before where vehicles also kill these "FPSers with skill"..

I do not want a game based on tactics. I want a game based on skill.