Absolutely wrong......
Breach ARE OP and i m no victim on the BF. Its a skilless weapon at the moment like tamsen were. Seeing heavy creodron everywhere is clue enough how op this weapon is.
It offers twice damage compared to the duvolle and hasnt enough fallback to compensate...

Let s just see how deep the nerf is before whining. Also killing infantry with each build ? WTF.

get down your high horse mate......

On the other hand i agree that SMG didnt need any buff.

The problem isn't te DPS. The problem is that the clip lasts longer than any other assault rifle. Once team play starts to get serious, the ability to reload only 1/2 as much is amazing. More demonstration that CCP doesn't quite understand team based FPS with high health. TAMSEN on mag was only good because of 45 capacity instead of 30.
THAT is the problem.
Tac AR + mouse will be silly good IMHO.

Not going to bother writing anything more on the issue.

HMG's getting un-nerfed and SMG's getting an increase in effective range.

if anything CCP should have added more ammo to the standard assault rifles

turned the burst AR into the Halo battle-rifle or R2/R3 Marksman COD M16

KDR+objective based game.......does not compute proto error error

But seriously, how can we even critique these things when the hit detection problems don't even merit a serious post in the patch notes? MOAR BLACK OP TANKS!

You know why there is no mention of "hit detection problems" in the patch notes Jonny boy? It's because CCP realizes that it is NOT a problem but rather a figment of your imagination..lol

Also, to all the posters in this thread that are bashing xprotoman, please realize this fact: protoman would beat all of ur a$$es on the battlefield. I would bet my Aurum on it!

You might want to listen to what he says, as the best players have alot of valuable insight to offer.

I'll take proto on my team any day of the week and we'll mop the floor with you all over the objective.

You know why there is no mention of "hit detection problems" in the patch notes Jonny boy? It's because CCP realizes that it is NOT a problem but rather a figment of your imagination..lol

Also, to all the posters in this thread that are bashing xprotoman, please realize this fact: protoman would beat all of ur a$$es on the battlefield. I would bet my Aurum on it!

You might want to listen to what he says, as the best players have alot of valuable insight to offer.

Not going to bother writing anything more on the issue.

HMG's getting un-nerfed and SMG's getting an increase in effective range.

if anything CCP should have added more ammo to the standard assault rifles

turned the burst AR into the Halo battle-rifle or R2/R3 Marksman COD M16

Proto, if you were to build a video game with multiple weapon systems wouldn't you be pleased if all of your systems got used...not absolutely equally... but with some semblance of equal distribution?

If say, for example, 70% of your gamers used ONE weapon system wouldn't that make you wonder if it might be unbalanced?

hmm? no?

balance

keep seeking it

Umm I thought people were preaching perfect imbalance 2 weeks ago now you want people to use all weapons? Not only does CCP not know what they want but the forums are just as ****** up as they are!

Where were people preaching perfect imbalance? WTF is that anyway? You mean like: ROSHAMBO? yes, that's kinda perfect imbalance.

But if you build a game like that and no one uses scissors and the vast majority use rock then...you don't have perfect imbalance.

you haven't even seen the new build yet, stop being such a baby wait until you see what it's like now.

also it's not a nerf if the game isn't released yet, they didn't HAVE to let us test the game. Be grateful you even got to play when the game wasn't finished yet.

I never thought it could get any worse than Scott Rudi, but CCP have proven me wrong [:8)
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Lets hold down R1 and snipe people with HMG's now yay
Lets hold down R1 and snipe people with SMG's now yay
Lets get killed by Forge guns again like in replication
Lets add even more RBS to the breach weapons
Lets nerf the effective range of the assault rifles so "sniper ghost warrior1122099" can kill you head glitching up in a mountain
Lets nerf the damage the damage on the assault rifles, because people were getting killed too fast
Lets continue to cater this game to people who have little to no gun game whatsoever
Lets continue to say everything is all fine and dandy when this game lacks any type of foundation in terms of shooter mechanics
Lets run around with 4 man squads and continue to have the same retards who have been worthless the past several builds continue to be worthless
Lets completely forget about this game being an FPS
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The effective range of assault rifles have been nerfed
The damage of the creodron has been nerfed
All Assault rifles still feel like crap
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Proto-gods fix for AR's in DUST 514
1. change damage levels back to E3/replication
2. change effective range back to E3/replication
3. Add more ammo capacity to the standard AR
4. Change the Burst rifle to a 3 shot burst
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dude said there is no hit detection problems....lol

if this is the kinda delusional feedback ppl giving then smh
not even sure if dude is srs tbh.....

I never thought it could get any worse than Scott Rudi, but CCP have proven me wrong [:8)
====================================================================================================
Lets hold down R1 and snipe people with HMG's now yay
Lets hold down R1 and snipe people with SMG's now yay
Lets get killed by Forge guns again like in replication
Lets add even more RBS to the breach weapons
Lets nerf the effective range of the assault rifles so "sniper ghost warrior1122099" can kill you head glitching up in a mountain
Lets nerf the damage the damage on the assault rifles, because people were getting killed too fast
Lets continue to cater this game to people who have little to no gun game whatsoever
Lets continue to say everything is all fine and dandy when this game lacks any type of foundation in terms of shooter mechanics
Lets run around with 4 man squads and continue to have the same retards who have been worthless the past several builds continue to be worthless
Lets completely forget about this game being an FPS
====================================================================================================
The effective range of assault rifles have been nerfed
The damage of the creodron has been nerfed
All Assault rifles still feel like crap
====================================================================================================
Proto-gods fix for AR's in DUST 514
1. change damage levels back to E3/replication
2. change effective range back to E3/replication
3. Add more ammo capacity to the standard AR
4. Change the Burst rifle to a 3 shot burst
====================================================================================================

i sense tears

oh hes def. srs.

SPR SRS