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Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.08 23:17:00 -
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um no im a casual gamer for cod, and I play eve. I prefer using a ds3 for console I dont want to have to use a mouse and keyboard to be competive in null sec. Thats unfair to even think everyone coming to this game from ds3 only games would just want to play matchs we want something diffrent we our hardcore gamers who want to do null sec warfare with our ds3 your assuming console player cant do all of that with our prefered method. |
Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.08 23:25:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Osiris Greywolf wrote:
Basically DS users are too stupid to have fun in null-sec or want to run a corp? That's nice. So every kb\m user is going to own a corporation and simultaneously fight in Null-sec then. I hope you enjoy your 1 v 1 battles then.
Right? See its stuff like this that just encourages me to play against these KB/M people to prove a point. I love how people tell me I'm going to get my ass kicked before its even put to a test. Challenge Accepted? Besides I've been playing EVE for a while, and I still prefer a controller over the KB/M. Doen't change the fact that I know very well what I'm doing with a corp and dealing with Nullsec life. Honestly I think people are just SO desperate to feel elite about something that they cling to the KB/M like it's some badge of honor that makes them more intelligent/capable of playing the game than us lowly DS3/Move users. This has nothing to do with intelligence. That is not what I was trying to say at all. What I am saying, as that the meta game is going to be impossible with DS3. It will be time consuming, non-intuitive, and frustrating. I'm a console player, by no means a PC Elitist, but the fact of the matter is that corporations, the economy, and Sov are going to be easier to deal with, when using KBM vs a DS3. This was not meant to start another "Is KBM good for the game?" thread, this was meant to point out the differences between a CoD/BF/MAG player, and a hardcore EVE player. The fact of the matter is that at the end of the day, this game is very much an expansion of EVE, it is not a separate game - it is only a separate portal into the New Eden Universe.
Your not an elitest? Sound like a arrogant pc gamer if you ask me. You just said that are prefered method is unsuited to the null sec in our game on our system. Null sec wont be for hardcore console gamers is what your saying ever thought we tired of being hardcore for cod maybe we want to try something new somethings thats not filled with arrogent pc gamers like you. Ds3 and k/m can be equally used for null sec politcs as for typing on the pads keyboard who does that hardcore console gamers have headsets and live chat. As for navigate the screen ccp needs to make it easy for us to use our game aspect all of them.
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Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.08.08 23:31:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Avenger 245 wrote:um no im a casual gamer for cod, and I play eve. I prefer using a ds3 for console I dont want to have to use a mouse and keyboard to be competive in null sec. Thats unfair to even think everyone coming to this game from ds3 only games would just want to play matchs we want something diffrent we our hardcore gamers who want to do null sec warfare with our ds3 your assuming console player cant do all of that with our prefered method. No, I'm not. Let me ask you something - did you ever spend money on something, they would help you improve your gameplay in EVE? Something like a better video card, so that you can turn the effects up to more easily understand what is going on, or perhaps a second screen, so that you can have the forums and market open on one to do research and politics, while having EVE open on the other? Maybe you bought a better mouse, or a nicer keyboard. My point is that someone who is hardcore into Dust, and is fighting Sov wars and engaging in Corporation politics, is going to do whatever they can, to make themselves better. If KBM were not made native to the game, the hardcore players would go out, and buy either and Eagle Eye, or a XIM3. Guess what happens then? You get dominated and have to way to combat those players unless you are willing to drop money on extra accessories. Again, this thread is not about KBM, it's about Hardcore New Eden vs Hardcore CoD/BF/MAG. It is a very different world, and people will do much more to ensure victory.
No I never bought anything to improve my gaming experince why for the same reason console gamers absolutely hate pc gamers im broke I have to save up to afford one next gen console I cant go out and buy alot of little add ons im broke. I play eve on my gimpy old laptop. |
Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.08 23:41:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Avenger 245 wrote:Your not an elitest? Sound like a arrogant pc gamer if you ask me. You just said that are prefered method is unsuited to the null sec in our game on our system. Null sec wont be for hardcore console gamers is what your saying ever thought we tired of being hardcore for cod maybe we want to try something new somethings thats not filled with arrogent pc gamers like you. Ds3 and k/m can be equally used for null sec politcs as for typing on the pads keyboard who does that hardcore console gamers have headsets and live chat. As for navigate the screen ccp needs to make it easy for us to use our game aspect all of them.
Issue #1 I have with your post - your grammar ******* sucks. That was way to hard to read. Issue #2 "Your system" is also my system. The games I play on PC are League of Legends, and Smite. I am not a PC elitist. Osiris Greywolf wrote:He's saying Kb\m players are more hard core than DS players, it doesn't matter how subtle he writes it. No, I'm not. I'm saying that in the New Eden Universe, the most powerful corp is going to be made of the people willing do whatever they can to win.
Forgive the grammer and spelling its hard to type on my phone when I cant see the whole message, also atleast I never tirned to cussing to say something.
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Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.08.08 23:43:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Avenger 245 wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Osiris Greywolf wrote:
Basically DS users are too stupid to have fun in null-sec or want to run a corp? That's nice. So every kb\m user is going to own a corporation and simultaneously fight in Null-sec then. I hope you enjoy your 1 v 1 battles then.
Right? See its stuff like this that just encourages me to play against these KB/M people to prove a point. I love how people tell me I'm going to get my ass kicked before its even put to a test. Challenge Accepted? Besides I've been playing EVE for a while, and I still prefer a controller over the KB/M. Doen't change the fact that I know very well what I'm doing with a corp and dealing with Nullsec life. Honestly I think people are just SO desperate to feel elite about something that they cling to the KB/M like it's some badge of honor that makes them more intelligent/capable of playing the game than us lowly DS3/Move users. This has nothing to do with intelligence. That is not what I was trying to say at all. What I am saying, as that the meta game is going to be impossible with DS3. It will be time consuming, non-intuitive, and frustrating. I'm a console player, by no means a PC Elitist, but the fact of the matter is that corporations, the economy, and Sov are going to be easier to deal with, when using KBM vs a DS3. This was not meant to start another "Is KBM good for the game?" thread, this was meant to point out the differences between a CoD/BF/MAG player, and a hardcore EVE player. The fact of the matter is that at the end of the day, this game is very much an expansion of EVE, it is not a separate game - it is only a separate portal into the New Eden Universe. Your not an elitest? Sound like a arrogant pc gamer if you ask me. You just said that are prefered method is unsuited to the null sec in our game on our system. Null sec wont be for hardcore console gamers is what your saying ever thought we tired of being hardcore for cod maybe we want to try something new somethings thats not filled with arrogent pc gamers like you. Ds3 and k/m can be equally used for null sec politcs as for typing on the pads keyboard who does that hardcore console gamers have headsets and live chat. As for navigate the screen ccp needs to make it easy for us to use our game aspect all of them. bud, i dont think your understanding what the OP is trying to say..... He is saying that a hardcore gamer from EVE and a hardcore player from ______ FPS are very different types of people. Hardcore in EVE doesnt mean leet skillz, it means your VERY involved in the game and have a huge time and money investment into your character. These types of people will be crossing over once Dust releases and he's simply talking about the extent to which these people will affect the Null-sec gameplay. I would agree that anybody, pc or console, who hasnt played EVE before doesnt realise just how crazy some of these people from EVE are.....im not a fanboy or anything, but it is a fact that the OP has a good point...
But he doesnt understand what I getting at why should we change on OUR system to be hardcore on a game we like |
Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.08.08 23:50:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Avenger 245 wrote:No I never bought anything to improve my gaming experince why for the same reason console gamers absolutely hate pc gamers im broke I have to save up to afford one next gen console I cant go out and buy alot of little add ons im broke. I play eve on my gimpy old laptop. Ah, gotchya. Then a better question is - if you had the capability to purchase extra screens, better peripherals, and other accessories that would improve you gameplay and efficiency, would you?
But I cant im broke and alot of other people are in the same boat why should I have to fork over more money to be hardcore on a game I like. But yes I would buy extra but I cant and no mater of hoping going to change that.
This is kinda the heart of the console wars and console pc wars. People have to pay money for one system to play on for fun they cant afford that other system so they argue about which is better because they dont want to feel like they wasted money on a crappy system. For the pc gamers its diffrent yall can afford pc and consoles and extras which is why the k/m argument is so intense you have the unrivaled abilty to splurge and buy everything you need we cant always do that. The heart of the k/m issue is the console vs pc wars and the heart of that is money. |
Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.08.09 00:02:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Avenger 245 wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Avenger 245 wrote:No I never bought anything to improve my gaming experince why for the same reason console gamers absolutely hate pc gamers im broke I have to save up to afford one next gen console I cant go out and buy alot of little add ons im broke. I play eve on my gimpy old laptop. Ah, gotchya. Then a better question is - if you had the capability to purchase extra screens, better peripherals, and other accessories that would improve you gameplay and efficiency, would you? But I cant im broke and alot of other people our in the same boat why should I have to fork over more money to be hardcore on a game I like. But yes I would buy extra but I cant and no mater of hoping going to change that. This is kinda the heart of the console wars and console pc wars. People have to pay money for one system to play on for fun they cant afford that other system so they argue about which is better because they dont want to feel like they wasted money on a crappy system. For the pc gamers its diffrent yall can afford pc and consoles and extras which is why the k/m argument is so intense you have the unrivaled abilty to splurge and buy everything you need we cant always do that. The heart of the k/m issue is the console vs pc wars and the heart of that is money. very good point. Money is the issue, and while PC is better, not everyone has the funding to be able to buy a great rig. What is even more of a focal issue is that Dust, for the time being, is a console game and KB+M is just around the corner. Again, you dont have to like it, but your sure as hell gonna have to deal with it.
I know its coming this thread isnt about that this thread is about ds3 not being comeptive enough and only hardcore gamers will use k/m. I want to do the hardcore metagame stuff with my ds3 ccp needs to make it flowing and avalible for us. I dont want to have to waste money on extra stuff to simple play the hardcore aspect of the game. Im stuborn and prideful enough that im going to use ds3 for the meta game stuff regardless I know its coming but hardcore gaming shouldnt just be for k/m users it should be easly usable for ds3 users aswell. I annoyed that he thinks that I will have to get a k/m to do the hardcore atuff and that his way is better.
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