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Forlorn Destrier
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Posted - 2012.08.06 22:39:00 -
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Because CCP wanted Eve players to test it first since the ultimate goal is integration with Eve. We Eve players were the first invited. |
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Posted - 2012.08.06 23:52:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:I don't know why EvE players play this game in the first place. Just stick to your game. Why do you care about the mechanics in this game when you'll just end up playing EvE once CCP makes this game take fps skill again?
You are assuming we only play Eve, which is not the case. If that were true, I wouldn't try to convince people who play other game types to try Eve, and I wouldn't try game types I'm not familiar with. This comment, like the one from the Eve player who implied that only Eve players are civil will do nothing but divide us. We are a community of gamers first, and should remember that. :) |
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Posted - 2012.08.06 23:53:00 -
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Arramakaian Eka wrote:That's the spirit in building a civil, mature community. When I played EVE it was both.
Not entirely true - but I give you credit for trying. I've played Eve for over 4 years and I can tell you that there are just as many immature and uncivil players in this game as in other games.
By the way, your comment reads as if n non-Eve players are neither mature or civil. |
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Posted - 2012.08.06 23:55:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Because the console crowd are not happy with the state of the game. We have no love for CCP and were not welcomed very nicely upon arrival to the forums (those that bothered). EvE players could have vested interests in Dust. I'd imagine we'll see more participation with the next build. If not CCP might need to have a serious think about things.
Lots of people cba to test. Dust demo for playing slay yo. Get on it yo. Then back to play favorite games. Which Dust may become a part of one day when things pick up.
I'm sorry you didn't feel welcomed. I tried to make a point to welcome non-Eve players and will happily fight by your side. Be sure to say hi to me in game if we are in a match together. :)
As for the comment, I find about half the people on comms are an even mix of Eve and non-Eve players. |
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Posted - 2012.08.06 23:57:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:I don't know why EvE players play this game in the first place. Just stick to your game. Why do you care about the mechanics in this game when you'll just end up playing EvE once CCP makes this game take fps skill again? It's actually really important they DO keep playing EvE. They need to pay my cheap self to do things. Stick to what your good at.
We can't be good at both? 
In seriousness, I enjoy both games quite a bit. |
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Posted - 2012.08.07 00:00:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:FPS skill= successfully aiming, dodging, weaving, killing, destroying
EvE skill= playing the longest
Both games take skills of different kinds. Trust me, there is a skill to Eve, just as there is skill to Dust and FPS games. |
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Posted - 2012.08.07 00:01:00 -
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Arramakaian Eka wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Arramakaian Eka wrote:That's the spirit in building a civil, mature community. When I played EVE it was both. By the way, your comment reads as if n non-Eve players are neither mature or civil. I re-read what I wrote, and no, it doesn't read like that at all.
That's how I read it, and I'm guessing others might feel the same. It's about perspective. The next logical thought after yours is "if these qualities are why CCP chose to test wtih Eve players, and I'm not an Eve player, does this mean I am not mature or civil?" |
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:14:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:I don't know why EvE players play this game in the first place. Just stick to your game. Why do you care about the mechanics in this game when you'll just end up playing EvE once CCP makes this game take fps skill again? Mechanics in this game are important, but is anyone really arguing over hit detection and better controls? I don't think so. And we've got veteran elite fps'ers giving different answers as to how strafy and fast they want the game to be, so that tells you right there it's a style choice. The EVE players are here because they're invested in a universe they were part of creating. And it's a universe so rich, deep and complex it absolutely beggars any other universe that has come out of gaming. We're here because we're not going to let anybody **** that up simply because they have no idea of what they've gotten into. I'm not trying to pick a fight here but try and name one universe that has come out of the fps community that can even begin to compare to New Eden. The answer is simple: there aren't any and there never will be. Another way to measure that is when veteran EVE players are asked the question 'What is EVE?'. There are threads about how hard it is to answer that question because you just can't fit New Eden into an answer that will communicate what's really going on out there. Now apply the same test to any fps and the answer is almost trivial. So if'n you want to run us outta our own universe, you better bring god's own f'in gun game and more, bub. ;) Not trying to run you out of your universe... Just trying to keep you to your side... We know how this game should be let us help you
So we shouldn't be allowed to provide feedback? There are parts to the game we have more experience with - fittings for example (how they synergize when stacking mods, how to make things fit when tight on powergrid, etc). This allows us to comment and provide feedback to make sure that Dust fits with what appears in Eve. There is more to the game than shooting, and while your experience in invaluable in those areas, ours is equally invaluable in other areas. |
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:17:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:I don't know why EvE players play this game in the first place. Just stick to your game. Why do you care about the mechanics in this game when you'll just end up playing EvE once CCP makes this game take fps skill again? Mechanics in this game are important, but is anyone really arguing over hit detection and better controls? I don't think so. And we've got veteran elite fps'ers giving different answers as to how strafy and fast they want the game to be, so that tells you right there it's a style choice. The EVE players are here because they're invested in a universe they were part of creating. And it's a universe so rich, deep and complex it absolutely beggars any other universe that has come out of gaming. We're here because we're not going to let anybody **** that up simply because they have no idea of what they've gotten into. I'm not trying to pick a fight here but try and name one universe that has come out of the fps community that can even begin to compare to New Eden. The answer is simple: there aren't any and there never will be. Another way to measure that is when veteran EVE players are asked the question 'What is EVE?'. There are threads about how hard it is to answer that question because you just can't fit New Eden into an answer that will communicate what's really going on out there. Now apply the same test to any fps and the answer is almost trivial. So if'n you want to run us outta our own universe, you better bring god's own f'in gun game and more, bub. ;) Not trying to run you out of your universe... Just trying to keep you to your side... We know how this game should be let us help you So we shouldn't be allowed to provide feedback? There are parts to the game we have more experience with - fittings for example (how they synergize when stacking mods, how to make things fit when tight on powergrid, etc). This allows us to comment and provide feedback to make sure that Dust fits with what appears in Eve. There is more to the game than shooting, and while your experience in invaluable in those areas, ours is equally invaluable in other areas.
Also, if you want this game to be available to a more casual base, you need people who don't have as much experience in FPS to make sure it hat it is easily accessible (which is the largest problem Eve has - the learning curve). You can't make it for the elite hardcore gamers only.
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