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Asher Night
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.07 00:42:00 -
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lDocHollidayl wrote:I have heard that once hit detection is fixed it will not be an issue. I am not convinced. Moving or a straight line scouts do not receive damage like other suits. Is this part of the game or an area that will be addressed? The scout is the hardest suit to hit. Everyone can see it is broken. Without RE's to corner scouts with, they will be matrix-like. I have had two friends quit already: saying "scouts are too unbalanced", "hit detection is whack". I went through 120 rounds once with a scout zigzagging 3 meters from me. It is... irritating. Not having them in the game would be an improvement.
Hello Doc, how have you been? I played with you in MAG, and I know you are a good player, so don't think that I am undermining your opinion or anything, but I do disagree with you. I'll explain...
I play as a scout, and have little to no difficulty killing other scouts. In fact, I'm happy when I meet a scout on the battlefield because it means I am about 90% likely to get a kill. Seriously, I rarely ever get killed by other scouts. You could make the argument "Well, you move fast like a scout, so that's why you can kill them", but that doesn't explain why they can't kill me.
When I meet Assault suits, it's more of an issue. Not just because they all ***** the Creodon Breach nowadays, but because they move decently fast while strafing back and forth PLUS they have way, way more health. Too much health for me to fire through with consistent, accurate hits while we both strafe back and forth as I try to hit them and avoid their AR (which does more damage up close than my SMG does).
When it comes to Heavy armor users, If I meet them one on one, I lose about 75% of the time. The only time I can ever beat them is if I run away and lure them into reinforcements, find them with their back turned (even then they often manage to turn around and take me out because of how weak the SMG is against Heavies and their weapons), or find them engaged with another enemy and unable to fire at me.
Right now, this game isn't about skill, it's about experience and how "leveled" your character is, so for a scout, it's REALLY hard to beat someone if they are on the same level and have shield/armor extenders. So maybe that will help you. The success of a scout really relies on your failure at aiming, not so much their talent with gun game - not at this point in the beta anyway. Nothing is more frustrating than hitting an enemy with 80 bullets to the back and not getting a kill, then having them turn around and hit you 4 times with a creo and shuffling off like they have so much talent. |
Asher Night
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.07 03:02:00 -
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ReGnUm DEl wrote:
I wrecked you two nights ago... easy mode
BTW your not a good scout
Wow, you're so cool. Everyone wants to hang out with you now, lol.
I wouldn't doubt you wrecked me. I accidentally bought a bunch of tier 2 scout suits and wanted to burn through them. Not like it even matters since this is the last weekend of this beta phase. If I was an awful player I wouldn't have a 2.53 KDR.
I think I might remember you - you run the assault suit and... not the creo or the duvolle but a different AR right? I'm pretty damn sure you have at least 2 shield extenders because I remember emptying clips into your ass and getting no where. Anyway, as I said, Assault suits are harder to take down given their speed and typical damage output, so the fact that you even said anything about besting me in a beta that I wasn't even trying in just shows how desperate you are for approval.
Why don't you and I meet up again in the final game and see what happens? BOTH in the same suit with the same weapon and modules? |
Asher Night
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.10 05:12:00 -
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Arceus Evoxazon wrote:Asher Night wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:
I wrecked you two nights ago... easy mode
BTW your not a good scout
Wow, you're so cool. Everyone wants to hang out with you now, lol. I wouldn't doubt you wrecked me. I accidentally bought a bunch of tier 2 scout suits and wanted to burn through them. Not like it even matters since this is the last weekend of this beta phase. If I was an awful player I wouldn't have a 2.53 KDR. I think I might remember you - you run the assault suit and... not the creo or the duvolle but a different AR right? I'm pretty damn sure you have at least 2 shield extenders because I remember emptying clips into your ass and getting no where. Anyway, as I said, Assault suits are harder to take down given their speed and typical damage output, so the fact that you even said anything about besting me in a beta that I wasn't even trying in just shows how desperate you are for approval. Why don't you and I meet up again in the final game and see what happens? BOTH in the same suit with the same weapon and modules? Point #1 - "I accidentally bought a bunch of tier 2 scout suits and I wanted to burn through them" You realize this counts towards your overall assets, which I'm sure, they will eventually play a part in the actual game. Don't get in to a habit of doing this. Point #2 - "If I was an awful player I wouldn't have a 2.53 KDR" I use Remotes and have a great KDR. Does that make me a good player? No, It means I use my tools effectively. KDR doesn't make you "Great". It makes you valuable. Point # 3 - "AR AR AR AR AR shield empty clip AR AR AR" You're still using an AR. You want to test your skill? Use an SMG. Best someone with that and you'll be a better player.
Point 1 - Yep, that's why I said I "accidently" did it. Duh.
Point 2 - Well, I don't use Remote mines, ever which brings me to...
Point 3 - ALL I USE IS THE SMG. I NEVER use the AR. In every FPS I every play, I only use the SMG, Pistol and Knife. Do you want to see the pics of my weapon stats from Battlefield 3 and MAG? You'll be surprised at just how much I run the SMG. In this game the knife is terrible right now, I'm putting all my points into sidearm and playing with the SMG currently and haven't really touched the pistol yet -- so thank you very much for your resounding compliment. I'm glad more people are realizing the SMG is one of the most talent requiring weapons.
Really, thanks, you're great. Thank you! |
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