Hello,

Last night I happened upon a game where the players were boosting. They had it set up so the vehicles would be healed as they took damage. I'm not going to say names, but the developers can easily check on those involved.

Now my beef is these people are getting well over 200,000 SP per match. I know it's a beta, but what these players are doing cheapens all the hard work the other testers have put in.

I'm not on here to complain though, no. I'm here to recruit others to assist in ruining their boosting attempts. Look for one of the least used rooms that contain 7-9 players. I found them on the two maps for Asia last night. There's a good chance that when you join, the match will be at 00:00 time left w/ 60 clones on both teams.

Both teams will have their tanks lined up in a circle on the edge of the map. You can try to blow them up, but I found myself unable to last night. In order to break up the party, you can jump into fray or kill yourself. At that point, the match ends and the less honarable players can't farm free SP

I've put a lot of thought into the system and so far am stumped on how to prevent abuse or remote repair without crippling logistics playstyles. There is a pretty lively discussion on possible solutions, but as of right now CCP has made aware of this potential again (it has been tested every patch and the SP to WP formula keeps improving on how it deals with this). For these kind of things I think email is better to avoid lighting up the forums with flames and copy cats. On a related note, the SP algorithm is pretty robust and no matter what you do (play all day, be a god of war like zitro, or set up logi-trains) you can't break more than a few thousand SP away from the ceiling, which is around 2M/day right now.

I've put a lot of thought into the system and so far am stumped on how to prevent abuse or remote repair without crippling logistics playstyles. There is a pretty lively discussion on possible solutions, but as of right now CCP has made aware of this potential again (it has been tested every patch and the SP to WP formula keeps improving on how it deals with this). For these kind of things I think email is better to avoid lighting up the forums with flames and copy cats. On a related note, the SP algorithm is pretty robust and no matter what you do (play all day, be a god of war like zitro, or set up logi-trains) you can't break more than a few thousand SP away from the ceiling, which is around 2M/day right now.

Ya know, I can see how e-mail would be advantageous, but I felt like sharing. Now when other players see it, they know what to do to stop it.

All it takes is one person to ruin an entire groups boosting efforts.

You might want to let that british check know I'll screw it up any chance I get.

you do know this is exactly why we didnt post the problem on the forums right? Now everyone who comes on here can read this and attempt to recreate it. nice job.

We all sent in detailed bug reports on the matter. no more is needed.

also as far as the the repping goes it takes more than on person. even if that person is in a tank. can rep through all the damage while keeping it going.

friendly fire fixes it real quick.

Then again I swore I firnedly fired a fellow swarm launcher yesterday by forge gunning him to the head...

you do know this is exactly why we didnt post the problem on the forums right? Now everyone who comes on here can read this and attempt to recreate it. nice job.

We all sent in detailed bug reports on the matter. no more is needed.

also as far as the the repping goes it takes more than on person. even if that person is in a tank. can rep through all the damage while keeping it going.

Well it is a beta and this is exactly what we should be doing is working together to help create a solution not hide it for a select few to abuse.

you do know this is exactly why we didnt post the problem on the forums right? Now everyone who comes on here can read this and attempt to recreate it. nice job.

We all sent in detailed bug reports on the matter. no more is needed.

also as far as the the repping goes it takes more than on person. even if that person is in a tank. can rep through all the damage while keeping it going.

Get off the high horse. What I encountered was flat out boosting. How long where you guys at it? You have some balls to try and take the high road on this one.

Spin it anyway you like. I'm busting heads and letting others know how to do the same. It's easier to stop this kind of boosting than it is to co-ordinate the boost. With other players educated on the matter, they too can be a pain in the butt for shady boosting types.

Get off the high horse. What I encountered was flat out boosting. How long where you guys at it? You have some balls to try and take the high road on this one.

Spin it anyway you like. I'm busting heads and letting others know how to do the same. It's easier to stop this kind of boosting than it is to co-ordinate the boost. With other players educated on the matter, they too can be a pain in the butt for shady boosting types.

Hey,
I'm one of the guys that did it,
I'm also the guy that emailed CCP about it.

just so you know - you can't kill them I won't go into why - but you were lucky we couldn't be bothered to kill you (no point), infact we were hoping you'd jump in one of the turrets.

either way - I recommend any possible abuse should be done and stomped out now rather than emergency patches when the game goes live, where abuse will be a lot more secretive, and response will be slower.

We did it last night, and reported it straight after. It was simply to prove it was achievable. We'll do it again next build too as stated.

so can a tank, tank another tank with remote rep support?

I don't know if a tank can tank a tank while tanking another tank but a tank should tank a tank if a tank can tank a tank while tanking.

Trying to find ways to break the game in order to clue in the devs is exactly what we are supposed to be doing in the first place. Some people whine about not having fun or stats, but this particular thread is complaining about testers actually doing their jobs...

Those pricks in space have all kinds of dirty tricks that they pull.

so can a tank, tank another tank with remote rep support?

Trying to find ways to break the game in order to clue in the devs is exactly what we are supposed to be doing in the first place. Some people whine about not having fun or stats, but this particular thread is complaining about testers actually doing their jobs...

To point out, these are people who had 30-45m+ SP before testing this exploit, and with the wipe upcoming, this is exactly the time to be breaking, and bending systems. ( I was on the outside in an alt Peppering them with CreoDron fire for giggles, 0 SP.)

This is a Closed beta with NO permanence other than our reserved Names. We're doing our jobs as unpaid Interns of CCP.

Unless you prefer we test this sort of problem at the Beginning of a test cycle? Would you like to see a few dozen people with 50m+ SP by week two?

I'm more on the side of Wider knowledge, because it will be too easy to make a phantom corp in Nulsec simply to grind SP off with to level actual Mercs.

Also, as an Anti-Vehicle specialist, the thought of finding one of these circle-lovefests makes me drool.

PS

Every moment of the test was done OPENLY on the C3 voice comm channel for the beta, you could always join us in the C3 channel yourself, the more ways we break the game now, the better the final product ends up being.

IRC channel is a good place to work with your fellow Interns as well

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=22699&find=unread You'd think more people with this much love for the game would be more participatory here.

sounds like we need some ECM nades and sensor dampeners,

20x ecm + densor damps soon puts a stop to remote repair exploits.
give us the ablility to perma jam tanks, dropships, jeeps,blaster instalations

ECM could be a module like a nanohive/droplink.
when placed they form a ecm barrier / blanket, a set of well placed ecm units could disrupt the whole field of play.
dampeners work in much the same way, they become more weaker the more are used, a max ceiling should be allowed.
60% chance of ecm/dampener effect.

Overview location readout map will become distorted as ecm takes effect ( map, HUD)

I don't know if a tank can tank a tank while tanking another tank but a tank should tank a tank if a tank can tank a tank while tanking.