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Sojuro Ryo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.05 04:12:00 -
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testguy242 wrote:You should all realize something: this game is made by the people who made EVE Online, which is probably the most (or at least one of the most) complex and unforgiving MMO that has ever existed. EVE is not for everyone and CCP hasn't tried to make it appeal to everyone because then it would lose what makes it unique. Let's look at a quote from an developer that sum it up: Quote:EVE is not designed to look like a cold, dark, unforgiving world. It's designed to BE a cold, dark, unforgiving world". - CCP Wrangler. So basically, don't expect a normal game that holds your hand. Don't expect a traditional FPS. What shows that it's really complicated is that you need a spreadsheet that has 5 pages in it just to help in mining and manufacture. Let's not even get into POSes. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.05 04:12:00 -
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gangsta nachos wrote:Sojuro Ryo wrote:The problem with FPS players is they're used to not having to do anything but combat. No real thought process in it at all. That's why I like how Dust is going because there is more then just the combat side. There's a side that needs you to think and this makes FPSers upset. Game should have been on pc won't last on console
Steve would argue against that with PS2 and all thier fanbois. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.05 04:13:00 -
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Sojuro Ryo wrote:testguy242 wrote:You should all realize something: this game is made by the people who made EVE Online, which is probably the most (or at least one of the most) complex and unforgiving MMO that has ever existed. EVE is not for everyone and CCP hasn't tried to make it appeal to everyone because then it would lose what makes it unique. Let's look at a quote from an developer that sum it up: Quote:EVE is not designed to look like a cold, dark, unforgiving world. It's designed to BE a cold, dark, unforgiving world". - CCP Wrangler. So basically, don't expect a normal game that holds your hand. Don't expect a traditional FPS. What shows that it's really complicated is that you need a spreadsheet that has 5 pages in it just to help in mining and manufacture. Let's not even get into POSes.
Or tech 3 or alchemy... oh gawd alchemy. |
Aijul
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.05 04:15:00 -
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Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote:There have been a lot of posts calling for things to make this game more user friendly to the average player. like unlimited gear so you dont need to restock, and little bonus for kill streaks but what these people need to ask themselves is. is this the right game for me? or am i just going to cry when it don't play like COD. its clear that its not perfect (this build is an old one) but a lot of us like the way its going, is it fair to ask for these changes to suit yourself and screw everyone else.
This Game needs a warning "This is not COD and never will be" Or "Some effort may be required"
and parents don't let your little kids play not realty a kids game it has a rating. some of the post complaining sound like there kids having a fit. Unlimited gear and extra bonuses change the mechanics of the game. Explaining to the player in a more comprehensible way that gear (except for militia and BPOs) do not replenish is not.
Well, that's what I'm asking for. More clarification, not dumbing the game down. There's a line between the two. A some what blurry and vague line that looks a bit like a spare thread of string, but it's still there. |
Sojuro Ryo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
189
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Posted - 2012.08.05 04:15:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Sojuro Ryo wrote:testguy242 wrote:You should all realize something: this game is made by the people who made EVE Online, which is probably the most (or at least one of the most) complex and unforgiving MMO that has ever existed. EVE is not for everyone and CCP hasn't tried to make it appeal to everyone because then it would lose what makes it unique. Let's look at a quote from an developer that sum it up: Quote:EVE is not designed to look like a cold, dark, unforgiving world. It's designed to BE a cold, dark, unforgiving world". - CCP Wrangler. So basically, don't expect a normal game that holds your hand. Don't expect a traditional FPS. What shows that it's really complicated is that you need a spreadsheet that has 5 pages in it just to help in mining and manufacture. Let's not even get into POSes. Or tech 3 or alchemy... oh gawd alchemy.
Basically, whenever you want to do something in Eve you need some other software to help. |
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
781
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Posted - 2012.08.05 04:16:00 -
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Sojuro Ryo wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Sojuro Ryo wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:I have two thumbs.
That is all it takes to play dust.
Game isn't complicated. Have to ask, and I know I'll regret it, but what are your other 8 fingers doing? *two thumbs and two index fingers. YOU only have 2 fingers? What happened?
do not play craps in indonesia |
testguy242
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Posted - 2012.08.05 04:26:00 -
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Aijul wrote:Unlimited gear and extra bonuses change the mechanics of the game. Explaining to the player in a more comprehensible way that gear (except for militia and BPOs) do not replenish is not.
Well, that's what I'm asking for. More clarification, not dumbing the game down. There's a line between the two. A some what blurry and vague line that looks a bit like a spare thread of string, but it's still there.
I agree with this, but remember this is a beta. Also be aware that CCP has not been great about explaining EVE to the new player, although they have been improving lately. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.08.05 05:01:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:I have two thumbs.
That is all it takes to play dust.
Game isn't complicated.
I love how people try to make it seem as if there's so much depth. DUST is complex yo it's complex. |
Regis Mark V
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Posted - 2012.08.05 05:06:00 -
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I remember hearing CCP say this game is for people who are interestd in the EVE universe just not in EVE gameplay. Buying gear over and over is part of the game play. |
Nexus Dragoon 514
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.05 08:23:00 -
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Regis Mark V wrote:I remember hearing CCP say this game is for people who are interestd in the EVE universe just not in EVE gameplay. Buying gear over and over is part of the game play. its more like a fact of new eden. anyone who cant deal with it should just move along. its not going to change no matter how hard you cry. |
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testguy242
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Posted - 2012.08.05 08:52:00 -
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Regis Mark V wrote:I remember hearing CCP say this game is for people who are interestd in the EVE universe just not in EVE gameplay. Buying gear over and over is part of the game play.
EVE is lots of pointing and clicking and waiting and things like that. It's very strategic and tactical, but not all that action-packed (although you can definitely get an adrenaline rush from combat, since you actually lose things when you die).
So yeah DUST is for another audience (console players and FPS players), but they're not going to completely abandon the feel of the EVE universe. Nothing worthwhile is free in EVE and nor should be in DUST. |
Seran Jinkar
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
214
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Posted - 2012.08.05 08:54:00 -
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Hands -> Check Eyes -> Check Brain -> Check Coordination -> Check |
Elitesaint
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.08.05 15:36:00 -
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gangsta nachos wrote: Game should have been on pc won't last on console
This is the only part that I agree with. I appreciate the effort to make a cross-platform game, but a FPS with the kind of depth and complexity of DUST really has no business being on something as weak as a console. And when I say weak, I don't just mean technically. I mean interface and social aspects as well. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.05 15:53:00 -
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Hahahhahaha Dust on PC??? Hahahahah have you seen the competition? You'd have EvE players on Dust. That's all. Seriouslu te games comming out in PC are already better than dust as a F2P MMO. They've been at it years. Quake live and fear combat are both great, and have been around YEARS. Ps2 just makes Dust look bad. Atleast on ps3 they have a captive market. Dust on PC = fail. Epic monumental blasted by the better competition fail. Let's just try and make te ps3 version better.
Btw what it takes to play Dust, will be different from what it takes to play 1 map for a month and a half. Which is what we're doing in the beta. Anyone claiming there's more than face shooting in this game, you're just bad, and don't realise how FPS, even tactical strategic FPS all boil down to face shooting. |
Chad Rash
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.08.05 16:38:00 -
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Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote:There have been a lot of posts calling for things to make this game more user friendly to the average player. like unlimited gear so you dont need to restock, and little bonus for kill streaks but what these people need to ask themselves is. is this the right game for me? or am i just going to cry when it don't play like COD. its clear that its not perfect (this build is an old one) but a lot of us like the way its going, is it fair to ask for these changes to suit yourself and screw everyone else.
This Game needs a warning "This is not COD and never will be" Or "Some effort may be required"
and parents don't let your little kids play not realty a kids game it has a rating. some of the post complaining sound like there kids having a fit. To play dust all you need to do is hide in a vehicle all day & spawn trap. Ohhh the skill >.> |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.05 16:45:00 -
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Chad Rash wrote:Nexus Dragoon 514 wrote:There have been a lot of posts calling for things to make this game more user friendly to the average player. like unlimited gear so you dont need to restock, and little bonus for kill streaks but what these people need to ask themselves is. is this the right game for me? or am i just going to cry when it don't play like COD. its clear that its not perfect (this build is an old one) but a lot of us like the way its going, is it fair to ask for these changes to suit yourself and screw everyone else.
This Game needs a warning "This is not COD and never will be" Or "Some effort may be required"
and parents don't let your little kids play not realty a kids game it has a rating. some of the post complaining sound like there kids having a fit. To play dust all you need to do is hide in a vehicle all day & spawn trap. Ohhh the skill >.>
^ master of nothing, jack of no trade. |
Sojuro Ryo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
189
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Posted - 2012.08.05 17:33:00 -
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Got up this morning and made coffee. Decided to put in the heat compound. Got everything apart and wouldn't you know it, there was barely any compound on the heat sink or chip. Cleaned up what they put, didn't take long , and put mine on. Put everything back together and now she's running almost 20degs cooler. Now that is a nice improvement . |
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