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vermacht Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:16:00 -
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I mean a kdr centered person only looking for more kills, someone no where near objectives |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:17:00 -
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Tak Kak wrote:The russians also used the common tactic of landing tanks on top buildings to suppress the germans from unattainable advantageous positions during the battle of Moscow. Unfortunately nine times out ten the planes lifting the tanks would either crash or the tanks would fall to the earth as dangerous metal hale.
Well, those russians are crazy bastards. But hey, it worked, didn't it? Besides, they had the numbers (and economy!) to make it work.
We also know that those RDV drivers are drunk most of the time anyway. |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:18:00 -
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Tak Kak wrote:Grit Breather wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Only the people who camp on towers accept tower campers and a person is one thing but a vehicle is another and the unfair eve things are mainly tactical not exploiting the environment Pardon me but you seem very narrow minded. I hear this a lot from FPS gamers. I hear a lot of "We hate campers!" or "Campers should be banned!". Well they shouldn't. They are doing their jobs. In a war there are snipers and there are lone tanks roaming the field. In WW2 the Russians had a tank roam around the German battlefield for a whole day before they managed to get a big enough gun behind it. The Russians had bigger tanks at the start of the war and they used them well. So why should anything in Dust (My true claim is any FPS but we'll not go there) be limited by the devs? If it's useable, do it. If you can win, do it. If your enemy can't counter it, shame on them. Even the most burrowed in sniper has a successful counter tactic. Use it. The russians also used the common tactic of landing tanks on top buildings to suppress the germans from unattainable advantageous positions during the battle of Moscow. Unfortunately nine times out ten the planes lifting the tanks would either crash or the tanks would fall to the earth as dangerous metal hale.
Good point too.
A real life example of the successful usage of tower camping tanks at a very high cost. The field commanders understood the costs but did it anyway for the advantages. |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:23:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:I mean a kdr centered person only looking for more kills, someone no where near objectives
I agree with you on that mostly.
A person only going after KDR is useless in Dust. He will not be rewarded in the release phase as he will have no objectives or true victories to his name. There will be no contracts going his way and he will gain little SP compared to his objective minded player friends. But that shouldn't be blocked by the devs. The community should be allowed to handle those on its own.
But sometimes you may view someone as a KDR ***** while in reality they are working for their team. They could either be following commands to do so or working to get the attention of the other team as a ruse. Not everything you think you see is actually happening. |
vermacht Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:27:00 -
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Or someone randomly running around for kills that actually bring about more defenders |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:30:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:Or someone randomly running around for kills that actually bring about more defenders
So do you agree with me that running around shooting people could be considered a good tactic when used properly?
Edit: With what seems to others like just plain KDR whoring. |
vermacht Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:31:00 -
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Of course but it seems like most only look out for their kdr though that may be due to a lack of grouping
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Grit Breather
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:38:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:Of course but it seems like most only look out for their kdr though that may be due to a lack of grouping
I believe (and many others on the forums agree with this) that most, if not all, of these KDR players will either change their ways or just go away once grouping is introduced. At first you may have lots of groups with little organization and a KDR agenda but they will quickly fall to the objective based groups with a consolidated command structure.
Just give it time. Dust will live up to its name (well, it won't be dusty but you get my drift). |
vermacht Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:43:00 -
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Add me on psn: mommy39 a good pilot is a valuable asset but to me a tank on a tower seems to be a waste of an expensive asset |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:57:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:Add me on psn: mommy39 a good pilot is a valuable asset but to me a tank on a tower seems to be a waste of an expensive asset
mommy39? 
I'm a terrible pilot/driver. I tend to try finding new tactics and figuring out how to best handle each vehicle. I'm far from being stable in my methods yet.
I'm a decent LAV driver though. I managed to get a good feel for the delicate controls on that. |
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Tak Kak
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:00:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Add me on psn: mommy39 a good pilot is a valuable asset but to me a tank on a tower seems to be a waste of an expensive asset mommy39? I'm a terrible pilot/driver. I tend to try finding new tactics and figuring out how to best handle each vehicle. I'm far from being stable in my methods yet. I'm a decent LAV driver though. I managed to get a good feel for the delicate controls on that.
Pro tip, as a tank driver refer to all infantry as 'crunchies'. |
vermacht Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:02:00 -
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Ok to clear somethings up im a guy and the name was probably karma
Lav drivers are rare and i will happily follow you if you work with me in some corp infiltrating operations |
vermacht Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:02:00 -
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Tak Kak wrote:Grit Breather wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Add me on psn: mommy39 a good pilot is a valuable asset but to me a tank on a tower seems to be a waste of an expensive asset mommy39? I'm a terrible pilot/driver. I tend to try finding new tactics and figuring out how to best handle each vehicle. I'm far from being stable in my methods yet. I'm a decent LAV driver though. I managed to get a good feel for the delicate controls on that. Pro tip, as a tank driver refer to all infantry as 'crunchies'.
Even heavies with proto forge? |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:03:00 -
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Tak Kak wrote:
Pro tip, as a tank driver refer to all infantry as 'crunchies'.
Not quite true. I've read a lot of post about tank drivers not being able to run over anyone due to going too slow. Maybe if we go back to the OP and land a tank on someone.  |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:05:00 -
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Tak Kak wrote:Pro tip, as a tank driver refer to all infantry as 'crunchies'.
I've blown up a lot of tanks as an infantryman, using my AV grenades. Not to mention in my logi suit, popping out of cover with my SL to blow tanks sky high... |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:05:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:Ok to clear somethings up im a guy and the name was probably karma
Lav drivers are rare and i will happily follow you if you work with me in some corp infiltrating operations
I don't mind you being a guy or girl. Either way would've been fine.
I'll add you when I get back home later today. |
vermacht Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:09:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Ok to clear somethings up im a guy and the name was probably karma
Lav drivers are rare and i will happily follow you if you work with me in some corp infiltrating operations I don't mind you being a guy or girl. Either way would've been fine. I'll add you when I get back home later today.
Good amd what about the offer to scam small corps |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:10:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:Grit Breather wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Ok to clear somethings up im a guy and the name was probably karma
Lav drivers are rare and i will happily follow you if you work with me in some corp infiltrating operations I don't mind you being a guy or girl. Either way would've been fine. I'll add you when I get back home later today. Good amd what about the offer to scam small corps
Let's wait for grouping with that. Right now we can't even plan on ending in the same match together. Forget about being on the same side.  |
vermacht Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:15:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Grit Breather wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Ok to clear somethings up im a guy and the name was probably karma
Lav drivers are rare and i will happily follow you if you work with me in some corp infiltrating operations I don't mind you being a guy or girl. Either way would've been fine. I'll add you when I get back home later today. Good amd what about the offer to scam small corps Let's wait for grouping with that. Right now we can't even plan on ending in the same match together. Forget about being on the same side.
You gotta plan for the future eve style |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:15:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:
You gotta plan for the future eve style
Alright. Let's do it. 
Edit: Everyone else just ignore this. Private message which doesn't concern you or your future corp. Nothing to see here... *hums* |
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vermacht Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:18:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:
You gotta plan for the future eve style
Alright. Let's do it. Edit: Everyone else just ignore this. Private message which doesn't concern you or your future corp. Nothing to see here... *hums*
Under different aliases of course |
zerkin gerend
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.01 15:44:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:The current method works a little better and most things that fall from space to solid land end up wrecked
yea i found that out the hard way
what a waist of a clone |
zerkin gerend
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.01 15:45:00 -
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VigSniper101 wrote:Man lm not awake yet...l read this as Tanks with Diapers.
i would pay money for that |
Angel Vicious
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.01 17:12:00 -
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All I'm gonna say is if we are going to start dropping tanks in from space I want to be in them during the free fall. I'm gonna fly that SOB with the turret like they did in the A-team movie. And I could care less if the thing turned in to a pringle when it landed as long as I get to rain tank death down on the enemy while falling. Then I will try to land it on an opposing squad. We are clones of immortal warriors or whatever who cares if I die in a flattened tank after entering the atmosphere. I say its a pretty glorious way to die. That being said though I am opposed to changing the current mechanic. |
Tak Kak
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Posted - 2012.08.01 17:19:00 -
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Angel Vicious wrote:All I'm gonna say is if we are going to start dropping tanks in from space I want to be in them during the free fall. I'm gonna fly that SOB with the turret like they did in the A-team movie. And I could care less if the thing turned in to a pringle when it landed as long as I get to rain tank death down on the enemy while falling. Then I will try to land it on an opposing squad. We are clones of immortal warriors or whatever who cares if I die in a flattened tank after entering the atmosphere. I say its a pretty glorious way to die. That being said though I am opposed to changing the current mechanic.
My knowledgeable account of history has shown that the US attempted 'Space Drops' of tanks during the Vietnam era, also known as 'Mass Apples' referring to Newton's law of physics. Though most of the tests were done during the space race and not properly experimented with battlefield environments, only using a ballon or sometimes glided wings to descend... they were for the most part successful although the utility of dropping heavy machinery behind enemy lines with almost no support was called into question and the project was soon scrapped. |
4447
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.01 19:03:00 -
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Tak Kak wrote:Angel Vicious wrote:All I'm gonna say is if we are going to start dropping tanks in from space I want to be in them during the free fall. I'm gonna fly that SOB with the turret like they did in the A-team movie. And I could care less if the thing turned in to a pringle when it landed as long as I get to rain tank death down on the enemy while falling. Then I will try to land it on an opposing squad. We are clones of immortal warriors or whatever who cares if I die in a flattened tank after entering the atmosphere. I say its a pretty glorious way to die. That being said though I am opposed to changing the current mechanic. My knowledgeable account of history has shown that the US attempted 'Space Drops' of tanks during the Vietnam era, also known as 'Mass Apples' referring to Newton's law of physics. Though most of the tests were done during the space race and not properly experimented with battlefield environments, only using a ballon or sometimes glided wings to descend... they were for the most part successful although the utility of dropping heavy machinery behind enemy lines with almost no support was called into question and the project was soon scrapped.
you would drop the tank with helo jumpers. |
vermacht Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.01 19:06:00 -
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zerkin gerend wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:The current method works a little better and most things that fall from space to solid land end up wrecked yea i found that out the hard way what a waist of a clone
If a shadow is over you that means run |
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