Personally, i find the strafe speed to be good at this point, as last build you were able to strafe ads to fast, as idk if anyone here actually has done that, but u cant run and stafe while ads fast like you could build. This build allowes good strafe speed for hipfire and reduced for ads firing which it should. Either skill into a scout suit to get upclose and hipfire or make each shot count while adsNot saying dont have skill, as have seen u play, but i think movement speed is actually one of the things i find that work really well

One thing ive still yet to seeanyone address from my post is the idea of strafe ads vs hip. As like i said, whther is realistic or tactical, you shouldnt be strafing running in circles while you are in ads, hence the term ADS meaning you are trying to be pinpoint accurate, and running around in circles would negate the idea. At that point you would want to hipfire from normal ads ranges as that allows for your faster movements.

As i said, movements speed is fine now, as if you want to run around fast, use scouts & smgs which are mean to be hipfired essentially. Even CCP has said (i believe), that want people to play smart & use cover. Thats why we have buildings with lots of "trailers" to run around and hide behind for protection. If they wnated us to simply strafe our way out of battles theyd have less cover to be used.

But thats just my. 02

not reading this entire argument but agree with proto on the 1st few pages of points he laid down

strafe speed last build was good, ppl sucked and cried cuz they couldnt hit **** and the strafe speed was the only thing that was gonna help even the odds on the whole ds3 vs kb/m but since its nerfed keyboard warriors will have the upper hand and yes slower strafe speed and movement speed generally makes ppl play more cautiously and camp more

Damage grows faster than health and has a higher ceiling. So skill up is in fact the answer. Prototype vs prototype fights end faster than militia vs militia.

In playing with you, and some of the others top guys in the beta and prior experience, you simply CANT have a game based on pure skill. It sounds good to those who have it, but for everyone else, you essen5ially alienate probably 90% of the possible community, as those who arent to your skill level will probably lose 99/100 times.

Im not saying dumb it down, but it needs to be able to cater to a bigger community. This game already may take hits based on final graphis (as cod fanboys will compare it), the indepth game play and time required (as this generatiom is run bby12yr olds who want to run and gun and get all the OP gear ina day or two). By allowing to have at least the mechanics suit everyones needs, it will help the game in numbers.

As ive said in all my posts, i find the strafing to work fine now, as it gives u enough ability to dodge a few bullets and hit others. As need to remember, everyone should have a chance to wina gun fight, as you have guns/gear/skill to also affect outcomes. if not, you'll turn new people off to the game right away as what new person will say in a game where they have no chance to get a kill based on skills/game mechanics,/weaponary/gear?

Actually it isnt failed math, i was saying by altering to cater to the needs of the elite u will alienate 90% of the community, which in no means equates to being out played 10% of the times. And my 99/100 means the elite 10% would beat the other 90% of the community 99% of the time if cater to the needs of the elite. In ANY game, you need to cater to the iddle, as it allows for more to play. And is just good business